Do you have a perfect digital marriage?


Please share with others if you have a perfect digital marriage. 

Do you have a streamer (brand and Model) that you have paired with a DAC (brand and model) that has created a blissful marriage creating the best harmony you have heard?

What are the aspects of the sound you really like?

For example  HiFi Rose RX RS130 streamer fed by fiber optic ethernet connected I2S to Denafrips Pontus II, 12th Anniversary DAC.

Organic, clean, musical, great separation of instruments, dynamic

How's you marriage going?

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Ok here goes 😊

Innuos Zen Mini mkiii w/ Innuos LPS ->

USB to Denafrips Iris DDC ->

Denafrips Pontus 15th 

The qualities you quoted:

"Organic, clean, musical, great separation of instruments, dynamic"

Are exactly those I experience and love so much. My amp and speakers play a huge part also, but digitally I'm In love

Fiber optic fed Musica Pristina connected by I²s to Lampizator Golden Gate 3 with T&P sourced tubes and custom built adaptors.

Well, if not perfect, I would say it is wonderfully engaging, and I look forward to discovering music through it daily. I hardly ever think about the equipment, which I love.

 

Small Green Computer SonicTransporter i5/Sonore Optical Rendu/Ayre QB 9 DSD Twenty.

Enough richness, color and density so it really feels like music. More than my perfectly good CD player. And Roon is easy enough to make my way through Qobuz and thousands of ripped files. Not perfect, but more than good enough...

Sonic transporter i5 with Roon on network main router in separate room.
Mesh router to optical FMC, EtherRegan w/After Dark clock, Stack SmoothLan, Bricasti M5 Network Streamer, USB to Mojo Mystique EVO B4B 21. Puts a smile on!

Yes. Aurrender W20SE —> Audio Research Reference 9CD DAC. Musical, detailed, enveloping, natural with great imaging.. 

The problem is, it sounds just like my great analog end top end Linn LP12 with Koetsue Rosewood Signature cartridge and Audio Research Reference 3 phonostage. I was ecstatic when my digital end at last measured up to my analog end. Now the problem is, there is absolutely no benefit to listen to and of my 2,000 albums. So, I am starting to think about investing another $10K+ into a cartridge to help my vinyl end pull ahead enough to justify using it once in a while. It’s just collecting dust now.

Admittedly, a great problem to have. 

Fiber optic to an Afterdark Netone, to a Gimm Mu1 streamer, via Shunyata Omega AES to a Lampizator Horizon 360 DAC with TP adaptors for NOS tubes. There is both a Roon server and a media storage server. within the Mu1.   I also have a $300 CD transport that feeds the Gimm Mu1 steamer that upsamples the CD feed and turns it into great sound. I use Swiss Digital fuses with Graphene coated slugs in both the streamer and the DAC. The DAC also sits on HIFISTAY footers. Both the streamer and DAC have Source AQ Dragon cords, Finally, the power comes from a pair of Shunyata Typhon 2 (30 amp version) with Snubways and MainStream plug ins, in each of the Typhons. The Afterdark Netone has three components in one slick box...copper to fiber or fiber to copper galvanic bridge, internal linear power supply, multiport switch and an internal XO clock 10 Mhz. Grounding is handled by the Shunyata Altaira with Omega and Sigma V2 ground cables.

I can use many adjectives to describe the sound, but this is the first time in a decades long dance with digital that now and then I forget I'm listening to a recording. Just once in a while, but never before has a system I have heard engaged me as IF it were a live event. 

Ghdprentice-I was in the same boat as you 5 or 6 years ago. I had a $15k tt setup with hundreds of albums. This is when I used Ethernet to the dac. I would have to spend much more on my tt setup to better the sound plus you still had the overhead of maintaining vinyl. I sold everything analog, even all my vinyl and have not regretted it for 1 second. Now I use i2s to the dac and sq has increased. If I wouldn’t have sold my tt setup years ago, I would have now

Not perfect but dam good one thing way over looked is the digital cables 

Tubulus audio Transformed my already good Innuos zen ,Hermes DDC then I2S to my Terminator 15 dac  I bought the Concentus  cable for the USB ,For the I2S the Ximius ,and Concentus for Ethernet  the solid cord silver Air,tube dielectric I believe the best digital cables out there and I have tried Shunyata best, AQ best ,these were less money and at least a 10% improvement in overall fidelity Concentus power cords also.  At a Audio get together one member has a whole system of Tubulus Audio cables ,fromHolland ,could not be happier .

Happy with my Aurender N200 streamer paired with Bricasti M3 DAC. Is it a perfect combo? There’s always something better but I’m satisfied for now.
Sold my analog setup - it made no sense ti keep it as it wasn’t going to be used when a digital front end is at this level. Kept the record collection though. Its future is undecided.

I have a thrupple in my digital marriage .  My Bryston DAC3 cohabitates with my Melco N 100 via usb and Cambridge Audio CXN 100 over SPDIF.

  The Melco , which is also my NAS, sounds great and I would probably give it a slight edge over the CA.  There is fantastic separation of instruments, soundstage depth and delineation.

  I added the CA for features.  Chromecast, AirPlay, podcasts, internet radio.  The CA also sounds excellent and many times I use it over the Melco because I might be switching between Chromecast and files on the NAS and it’s just easier than changing the DAC input.

  Lately I’ve been wondering if the slight preference for the Melco renderer is because every thing is contained within the Melco.  When I listen to a file from the Melco NAS over the CA it has to connect by Ethernet.  At any rate I could easily live with either streamer exclusively by as Joel Grey says in Cabaret “..there’s two for one.”

I had the 2nd generation BRYSTON BDP / BRYSTON BDA digital stablemates with a CARDAS CLEAR cable. Performance-wise it was quite pleasing BUT it’s archaic and clumsy “Manic Moose” digital interface drove me nuts.

Enter the MOON by SIMAUDIO digital player / streaming DAC products, They have top-end network player/dac models at progressive prices.

https://simaudio.com/en/product-category/digital-products/

At its pricepoint, the MOON 280D MiND2 beat all contenders and pretenders in MY system ….highly recommended and a L-T keeper for me.

REVIEWS 

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/simaudio-moon-280d-streaming-dac-review


https://darko.audio/2021/07/refined-precision-moon-by-simaudios-280d-streaming-dac/

 

https://www.stereonet.com/reviews/simaudio-moon-280d-streaming-dac-review

 

I use an Aurender N200  network streamer ,  Lab 12 DAC 1 Reference ,  and Teac VRDS 701t Transport.    Great sounding front end in my rig.  

 

 

 

AT&T fiber optic internet w/ upgraded router => audioquest Pearl cat5 cable =>
TP Link unmanaged network switch w/ linear power supply #1 => audioquest Pearl cat5 cable =>
Mele fan-less silent miniPC running audio optimized MS OS w/ linear power supply #2 streaming Qobuz => Viborg OFC USB type 2 =>
Denafrips IRIS DDC => I2S cable =>
Denafrips Pontus II 12th => Viborg Audiocrast silver plated OFC XLR => 

Integrated tube amplifier & Klipsch Forte IIIs w/ Klipsch Reference 112 subwoofer.

Separate dedicated power line from common panel w true earth ground.

Organic, clean, holographic sound stage with detail and warmth. The sex is great, but she hasn’t learned to grocery shop or make my tee times yet.

 

Esoteric NO5 streamer/DAC fed by fiber optic ethernet from NAS into McIntosh C2300 tube preamp, MC500 SS amp, Tannoy Churchill’s 

Four streamers into one DAC. One streamer into another DAC. Same room.

Perfect.

The fidelity of each recording varies far more than the SQ of the DACs (or the streamers.)

Node router into an ENO distributed through a Bright Angel to the DACs:

$2500 (US) in ’18 and $200 (Chinese) in ’21.

My Rockna Wavedream Signature and Wavedream NET are fantastic.  I've only heard a couple of digital front ends that sounded better and they were an order of magnitude more expensive.  I love vinyl, but have thought many times about going strictly digital.  On the other hand, I've had no thoughts of digital upgrades since I acquired the Rocknas.

Aurender N20 and MSB Discrete DAC. Musical, detailed, alive with a wonderful soundstage and imaging. 

My Aurender N100H feeding a Yggdrasil sounds pretty darn good, but I lust after the N200 which should be my next purchase! If I win the lottery, I will get what George Prentice has!

MacMini with Roon (lifetime) -> USB -> HoloAudio May DAC L2. For FLAC files only, I don't stream. No complaints, but have not been listening to many DACs. Just got a decent one so that I won't have to wonder anymore.

This is just for the occasional digital music listening, I prefer vinyl and that is where my money goes (Rega Naia). 

DC-powered 2016 Mac Mini -> Pi2AES streamer -> Doge 7 DAC.  Big, 3D analogue sound.  Sounds pretty good to me, and my listening buddies agree.  The Pi2AES is $199, plus $80 for a Raspberry Pi 4 and $80 for Gentooplayer operating system.  Same with the Doge, which I got on sale four years ago for $1000.  Sabre DAC with all-tube output, no op amps, built like the proverbial tank.

I'd like to hear some newer DACs with I2S input, like a Holo or Denafrips, but I'm not in a hurry.  The Doge uses the coax from the Pi2AES.  I might try to borrow something from a friend at some point.

I have a happy marriage but I have a problem with monogamy.  I’ve dated a lot of streamers and DACs over the years.  I’m now in a committed relationship with my Innuos Zen Mk3 streamer with a Pine Tree Audio USB cable connected to my Holo Audio Cyan 2 DAC.
 

It’s very quiet and revealing without any sibilance.   A wide soundstage with good width and depth and instrument separation.  I like describing music the way people talk about wine.  It’s a playful little system with transparent highs, lows and mids with just a touch of warmth where needed.  Pair it with Qobuz and hard rock and enjoy with your favorite adult beverage.  A marriage made in musical heaven.  

My DAC journey started with a Griffin iMic, then on to various budget units like Roland UA-1G, Apogee Duet… the plan was to digitize all my vinyl. Ha! I’ve had an LP12 since 1983, so I decided to listen to records and treat digital as a separate if not equal source. The Duet had a really nice sound, but I started to sample iFi products. Their Zen Signature was very listenable until I recently decided to buy one piece of kit and purchased a Linn Akurate DSM/3. Their now outdated Katalyst DAC sounds really good and I’ve decided that this is the sweet spot for me. A one-box solution makes sense in my little living room/listening room, and allows me to have vinyl, streaming and my own digital library available painlessly.

Linn Akurate DSM/3>Linn AV5125 Aktiv>Linn Keilidhs  Linn LP12 

Qobuz & Digital thru CAT5 from Mac Mini M1 Roon Core

Roon is easier, but the Linn app is pretty functional too.

NAS via LAN to WinPC/Jriver/DiracLive.

WinPC/Jriver/DiracLive via LAN(Ravenna) to Merging Hapi II D/A

Pristine.

Auralic Aries G2.1 via lightning app into a Sonnet Pasithea DAC.

outstanding realism, detail and timbre.

 

streamer Upgraded from node to auralic g1.1 to 2.1

Dac upgraded from Parasound to Rockna Wavelight to Pasithea

 

using 45 tubes into custom horns.

No need to upgrade at this time…

Love hearing about everyone's sonic bliss :)

 

Baetis R1 revolution streamer

Using AES output

TOTALdac d1 R2R DAC

Morrow audio interconnects

No pre amp using straight into YBA 1 stereo amp.

Happy listening

From Canada

Lots of Roads leading to the top of the mountain. What’s interesting to me is how many different price points are getting you guys to audio nirvana. Very Cool. As someone already mentioned lots of dating before getting that special one. And of course the refreshing beverages. My choice is Guinness Stout.

Innuos Zenith Mark III into a Bricasti M 1 Series II. Probably all I’ll ever need or have until I get really old & someone makes a really good all in one speaker, amp, streamer, DAC . Looks like Focal / Naim is on their way. 

Bell Fiber optic , Luna mauve Ethernet cable to Synergistic Research switch,Muon Pro to Aqua LinQ transporter, to Weiss 501 Mk2 for digital. All Luna red cables with Shindo gears,and 2x Rel S 510 subs in an amazing coherence with Fleetwood SQ speakers.We are never fatigued by the SQ, can go on for hours and hours.

Yes. Playback Designs MPS-X streamer> P Link> MPD-8 DAC. Organic, vinyl like sonics...Some might get close but that combo cannot be beat by any other pair regardless of price. 

Well it’s all subjective and what one hears someone else may not but here goes.

sonic transporter i5 (gen3)> signature redu se> Denafrips DDC Gaia > Denafrips Terminator II (12th)   Cables matter… cables matter 

believe the hype it changes everything

I had my MM Tambaqui for a bit before it was courted by the beautiful and capable Grimm MU1.  A perfect match.  But many friends upstream contribute to the marriage; A JCAT M12 Switch powered by a Sean Jacobs PS, A GTT DeJitterit Switch and Clean Modem are next, with quality ethernet cabling and a Muon Pro Ethernet Filter were all on the honeymoon.

I have a Emotiva TA1 DAC/amp driven from my desktop via Toslink to the Dac and that is driving a pair of Ohm 2000 Walsh omnis along with a pair of PC2000 SVS subs. Very happy with the overall sound, though the Ohm's need a bit more power than the lightweight amp in the dac provides. That's the next upgrade...planning on trying a Hypex class D amp with 500 wpc. I have reason to believe it will be a nice upgrade.


Win11 PC using Audirvana Studio reading Flac files and sent via USB to
 Pontus 2-12th-1 DAC,, XLR out to Schitt Freya S ( non tube )  Pre-Amp has
Two RCA outs, one to  Decware Torii Jr V2 and the other to older Velodyne Sub,
Torii Jr V2 out to fully updated  1987  La Scala/s  via braided cables

 

Great sound stage - Dac and Pre-Amp made significant differences. Audirvana Studio has many software adjustments which can help tune your resulting sound. I believe the Decware amp likes gain and therefore does better with the pre-amp. I believe in system synergy , your components need to match up in more ways than just connecting cables. The mini pc does not give out any identifiable noise in my system and remember all pro streamers are PC's or  or single board computers  ( think Raspberry Pi ) underneath the metal box.

Antipodes K50 G4 --> Jorma AES/EBU --> EMM DV2 DAC. The sound is the best I've had in my system. 

The network is optimized as well; Paul Pang Quad Switch --> Reiki SuperSwitch Master Pro. 

The factors affecting the sound of my digital front end probably go beyond just the "digital marriage" between my streamer and DAC but, that said, immediately upon adding the Sonore Signature Rendu SE Deluxe (optical) streamer the sound of my system became more natural and enjoyable to listen to, IMO.  The effects are similar regardless of the DAC I am using, although different DACs also affect the sound in different ways.  Some of the noticeable gains I perceived from the Sonore streamer were improvements in dimensionality (more 3-dimensional, think stereo vs. a transistor radio), smoothness/fluidity, "meat on the bone" (i.e., density and impact), and realness (i.e., greater perception of inflections of vocals and nuance of instruments). 

As I have mentioned in other threads here, while I perceived improvements from the Sonore streamer, I have discerned no reliably perceptible differences in the servers I have used to store and access digital music files and to operate Roon core (Antipodes, Mojo Audio, and SGC sonicTransporter currently).

My digital front end consists of:

  • SGC sonicTransporter i9 (Gen 4) - connected to my home network in a room that is separate from my main system room
  • Sonore Signature Rendu SE Deluxe (optical)
  • Singxer SU-6 DDC - connected by USB to the streamer and then used to allow other connection types to multiple DACs
  • Mojo Audio Mystique X SE NCZ DAC - connected by either S/PDIF or AES/EBU through the DDC, or directly by USB from the streamer (which may sound a little bit better: btw, Mojo uses the  JL Sounds USB input module)
  • Additional:
    • Cable internet (typically measured at about 400 Mbps)
    • Digital signal equipment (i.e., modem, router, Bonn switch, Sonore optical converter, and i9 server) located in a separate room and powered by a dedicated 20A power line
    • All peripheral equipment listed above powered by LPSs
    • Fiber optic isolation (TP-Link) between router and sever/switch
    • Fiber optic (45-feet) from converter to streamer
    • Network Acoustics muon USB cable from streamer to either DDC or directly into the DAC (current set-up without DDC)
    • Oyaide DB-510 from DDC to DAC (when using the DDC and not a direct streamer-DAC USB connection)

Great discussion. Very informative.some us us live in the desert of audio arena and don't get to listen to this.great to have first hand experience not biased by sales people.enjoy the music

I’ve found the perfect marriage solution by getting a divorce from all things digital over a decade ago.
 

Life is blissful with my bachelor’s all analog system. 

I have gone from all separates (McIntosh and Bluesound) to a one piece system.  A Linn MSDM and I find the sound much better.  But bear in mind I am in my late 70's so my hearing is not as good as younger people. 

Great to see som many so many approaches digital Nirvana. t’s been a great journey from my first digital setup of OPPO Sonica DAC tube modded by Modwright. I’m currently in love with

INNUOS Zenith MK3 w/PhNET & PhUSB

CHORD DAVE w/ Sean Jacobs DC4/ARC6 LPS

AUDIOWISE OPTO DX optical interface

M Scaler w/ Teddy Pardo LPSU

It’s been a long gradual build since I first purchased the DAVE/Zenith MK3, with each addition adding either incrementally by varying degrees or in one case (Sean Jacobs LPS) utterly transforming my system beyond any expectation. Next most significant add for my system was the M Scaler

Immersive, detailed. full and rich.

 

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Power and Networking:

-Fiber to house

-EERO Mesh network 

-GIGE SW with LPS

-IsoTek Genesis EVO Regen powering IsoTek Aquarius EVO condtiioner

-Roon Nucleus One with Teddy Pardo LPS

-Purist Audio 🐱 8 Ethernet Cable from GIGE SW to DAC

-iFi LAN Silencer filter plugged directly into DAC RJ-45

All networking and Roon plugged into IsoTek stuff

Digital Audio Source:

-Simaudio Moon 791 Streaming DAC 

Best digital “marriage” to date for me thus far. Coherent, dynamic, expressive, engaging, and fun listening sessions. Was worth all the hassle tweaking the networking bits to gain more stability and performance. 

 

“Do you have a perfect digital marriage?”

Yes! But I don’t mind courting new components that peaks my interest. 

Aurender  N-200 tied to a Lampizator Atlantic TRP DAC,  very happy with it.