Getting a Divorce and can now buy floor standing speakers
So, I am getting rid of the wife (divorce, I am not burying her in the backyard!) and can now get big floor standing speakers. I currently have a Luxman integrated and model 30 Harbeth speakers, and a very good sub. Very neutral/natural sound, can listen for long sessions. But I don't get a very good image, and it seems a little too laid back. I listen mainly to singer-song writers, both male and female. Lots of acoustic/piano.
There are so many floor standers now, I'd like to shorten the list. Any suggestions to start my search? I am located in southern CA, so I can listen to almost any brand. Price should be under $100K.
I may lose a wife, but so far the freedom/cash is worth it.
There are a few times in my life I regret not getting married. But then I look at my gun collection, my hobby collection and my JBL L222 Disco speakers and the regret goes away. I always wanted a JBL Paragon but never had the living quarters for it.
Incorrect...a luxman c900u + m900u will drive any speaker at any price and can salvage many a undeserving turd posing as a high end speaker ( make it sound a whole lot better than it should). Boulder or Gryphon never knew how to design an amp better than Luxman. A heavier and a fancier looking chassis never meant a better amp.
Usually, Luxman is paired with speakers costing roughly up to 20k. If you get a top speaker, like the Magico M3, then the Luxman would be the sonic bottleneck. It’s best to have a balanced (near same level, minimizing bottlenecks) audio chain including cabling.
For imaging, sound stage, realism, and great bass look into Charney Audio. Depending on your room size no sub will be needed. I have the Companions with Voxativ AF 2.6 drivers. They are a 6” driver in my 11x15x8 room with accurate deep bass, sweet engaging midrange and great highs. Vocals are off the charts! Listening to Holly Cole, Janis Ian, Diana Krall, Ella, Lady Blue,…is your own private concert! So much I can write about but let your ears make the decision! Charney Audio
Speaker selection is so subjective and in your price range. There's so many superlative speakers out there to choose from between 20K and 100K. You've got a good idea of what great speakers are out there on the market in your price range. Go listen to as many speakers as you possibly can. That's the only way. Happy listening.
Good luck with everything. Most women are the winners in a divorce so I hope she doesn't go after your current system and that money you have to buy more.
WBF = What’s Best Forum - much deeper pockets- they discuss through experience up to the very best audio components.
Usually, Luxman is paired with speakers costing roughly up to 20k. If you get a top speaker, like the Magico M3, then the Luxman would be the sonic bottleneck. It’s best to have a balanced (near same level, minimizing bottlenecks) audio chain including cabling.
Also, be careful not to get speakers too large for your space that may create excess bass issues. Too small speakers may not be enough to pressurize the room- if that is your goal.
While picking up a pair of subs, my son and I were thrown the keys to these Legacy Valors. I have a very nice system.... these things made us astonished. You talk about strings! Wow, sounded like the guitar was sitting right in front of us. 80 grand. I recommend you go hear a pair.
Howard Stern’s advice to Chuck Norris while he was going through his difficult divorce years ago — “You know why divorce is so expensive? Because it’s worth it!” Can’t help thinking this is even more true for audiophiles.
+1 on the Volti Vittora. Super efficient, beautiful, musical... and I doubt that one could find a more dynamic, engaging and fun speaker regardless of price.
Given your budget, you could probably enlist a skilled builder/artisan and have a bespoke set made for you. Buying "off the shelf" speakers, you'll likely invest a lot of time and perhaps some $$ looking for synergy (which certainly could be fun). On the other hand, if you go with a builder, you can look at your current components' specs, strengths/weaknesses, etc., the specs of the physical space in which they'll perform, and your listening/sonic preferences... and build a speaker set to maximize synergy of your "constants."
As SoCal has a lot of folks involved in audio & engineering, I have to guess that there are plenty of other people that can craft a wicked set of speakers too.
Unrelatedly, noting your username, are you headed to the Sphere this spring? ;^)
@deadhead1000 The Wilsons I mentioned earlier are listed on Audiogon. I contacted the owner and he would be glad to have you over to listen. I have heard this system and it is spectacular. Steve is also a great guy.
Whenever someone asks a generic question like this, 200 will respond with 200 different results. I suggest spending a few $$$ and go to a couple of audio shows like the Tampa show coming up next month and Axpona and then go to a couple of dealers around the country to get a more intimate listening session or bring a couple pairs into your house for a 30 day trial. If you spend $100k on speakers and you decide you don’t like them, you will lose $20-$30k if you try to sell them.
As others have suggested, Soundlabs and high-watt OTLs or solid state, or humungous horns with low-watt SETs. Either way, you’ll be in bliss. Permanently single, but in bliss.
Sometimes you don’t appreciate what you have. My wife, a divorce attorney, told m to get new speakers (Charney with AER-BD3). I guess I’m keeping her until the end.
I would say if you have the money go to high end Store and listen to Speakers and Amps and buy a combined system if something YOU HEAR really stands out.And really make yourself happy being single.Good Luck
The last few years of CAF, the room that I thought sounded the best was the mbl room. Perhaps it was the electronics, but I think the speakers are amazing. The have a number of offerings in your price range. Definitely worth a listen.
Such a profound subject. I commented on this just two days ago in one of my replies to another subject. Whether it would be good to get rid of the wife if said wife would not accommodate ‘your’ hobby.
This has created such a lot of serious and light-hearted banter on here. A common subject but has made me smile here in the UK. We have smaller houses in England than most counties and wife v hi-if contentions is probably a more volatile arguing point over here.
After my 1st marriage fell through the drain (no death no until part crap n all..), I got more tactical. I threw big house parties in a house filled with gear and scanned the party persons pool with more scrutiny.... looked to see if such an environment felt like a natural habitat to some or what.
Eventually, I discovered a rare bird at a very loud concert, who thought the sight of all that PA gear was ’memerizing’..can’t be real i thought at the moment......Needless to say, all the gear n my house looked mesmerizing to that bird as well...that is coming up on 25 years ago now. Hence, I am still married this time.
The right bird for anyone could be out there, if you are a bit more tactical with the scanner.
I highly recommend you put Rockport speakers on your list. The Cygnus is below your price limit. Rockport speakers are universally praised and sound spectacular ! Good luck in your search
With that kind of money in play, you should go to a show or two to sample a wide variety of types of speakers. That should include large panel speakers (planar magnetics or electrostatics), Multiway systems employing widerange drivers to cover most of the music (e.g., Voxativ), single driver systems (Charney Audio, Songer Audio), omni directional speakers (e.g., MBL), truly oddball unique systems (Bayz Audio), and open baffle designs (PureAudioProject, Cinnamon Audio).
Of course, as I mentioned above, you should also consider compression horn systems. I have not heard that many good, modern, compression horn systems except for the tremendously expensive Goto stuff ($100k might get you the drivers for a mono system). Among the better modern systems are those offered by Volti at prices way below your target. But, again, custom systems are much better than what is generally available. If you insist on current, modern production drivers, the best are very expensive (e.g, G.I.P Laboratories in Japan make terrific Western Electric replicas) or ridiculously expensive (e.g., Goto, ALE or Cogent). Deja Vu Audio that I mentioned above has made systems with only modern G.I.P. drivers, but that can be more expensive than using exotic vintage drivers. Still, at your price level, a trip to Northern Virginia (suburb of DC) would be worthwhile.
I know there are many audiophiles who can afford many a speaker, and some choose Harbeth’s, I don’t think they are your weakest link. I have never owned Harbeth’s but I believe they have no problem imaging with complementary components.
Try some better amplification first- demo an Accuphase or Boulder integrated, or go separates?
I am sure you are going to upgrade your Luxman if you get larger floorstanders anyway, so maybe start there? Upgrade your source to get more refinement and resolution and tilt the sound from laid back to more detailed- what do you have now?
Unless there is this important underlying principle of "when she is gone the first thing I do is get my huge speakers because she never let me get them before" which I understand. Then put the Magico’s on the short list- they will have the opposite qualities of the Harbeth’s, and they are anti-female black which may appeal in your situation. Those Vivid Giya’s recommended earlier are quite anti-female also.
I agree with @larryi. I have listened to many of Vu’s, owner of DejaVu audio, creations and they are amazing. When I decide to replace my Audio Note speakers I will commission Vu to make me a pair.
PBN Audio is in Alpine, CA. Peter Norbeck has a tremendous line up of PBN high end speakers and audio components. I have the M2!5 speakers along with a PBN pre-amp and PBN amps and for me it’s my last system until I have a larger home.
Dieses, or Mágicos. You’ll likely have some change left over- get a pair of Hypex amps.
Then, invite all the babes over for some sweet spot fun.
Audio nirvana!
My choice would also be low-powered tube and high efficiency speakers. In your price range, there are not that many commercial choices for horn-based systems. I like Charney (back loaded horn for single cone driver). But, you can go custom build that employ vintage compression drivers that are unmatched by anything currently being made. I would talk to Deja Vu Audio in Virginia. Custom means they can tune the system to your specific requirements.
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