I really liked my Rega Apollo-R. Very analog sounding. I reluctantly sold it due to space limitations from reconfiguring my system.
Got to disagree with the Emotiva recommendation. That one that got sent back. Looks nice, cool remote, but non-gapless playback is a huge problem. I opened that CD player up, and it’s a $10 plastic OEM computer drive. Complete junk packaged in a nice looking case. In the price range you’re looking at, I would check out Cambridge Audio or Marantz.
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check this out, ask seller to verify it finds SACDs
sony’s are slow to load, just be patient IOW, get started for next to nothing and keep your eye out for a great deal on a better one. btw, I just bought a similar unit for a friend for $15. at a rummage sale. his particular model does not play SACD, but it does play copies of cds which he needs. I am guessing this unit plays copies. |
I picked up a Denon DCD-800ne not too long ago in your price range. It has all the features I wanted, a decent DAC, USB input (like the Marantz 6007) for mp3, FLAC, and even DSD files. I can use it as a transport later to feed a better DAC, but it sounds fine to me. It also plays CDs gaplessly which was a REQUIREMENT for me. Many CD players today are not gapless, so do your homework if that is important to you. The Emotiva and some Yamaha were NOT gapless. I heard a rumor Yamaha did a firmware upgrade that did make it gapless, but I can’t confirm that. |
+1 for the Rotel CD11 Tribute in your price range. Looks great. I was torn between that one and the Denon but went with the Denon because I found it for a good price. Nothing wrong with a Marantz 6007 either, but the styling hasn't changed in many years, and some don't like the way the front looks. You either like it or don't. |
You could nab this Marantz CD-60 at $779. It's an open box item with the same guarantee as a brand new one. All the best, |
Just to play Devil's advocate and throw this out there...You might consider a Sony UBP-X800M2 Blu-ray Player for under $300 and use it's coaxial digital out to feed an external DAC. Many say since Oppo stopped making players, that these Sonys were among the "best" being made. And I cannot confirm it, but one poster at Crutchfield at least claims it plays SACDs (but note that *probably* means connected to an AVR via HDMI, not through the coaxial digital output). |
I have mentioned I own and am blown away by the Audiolab 6000 CDT, BUT, the OP asked about PLAYERS. I am surprised that no one has mentioned the Project DS3 MSRP $899.00
I had a Oppo 105 which over time I replaced the crappy PS with a LPS, upgraded the IEC with Furutec which had a sliver tail to the PS board, bypassed the 110/220 switch, all to great affect, but it didn't hold a candle to my 6000 CDT using the built in dac in my Audio Alchemy DDP-1 with optional PS5 power supply |
Soley out of curiosity, I own one of the Emotiva CD3 players and unfortunately have little good to say about it. If I could, I would like to try yet another DAC with it, specifically the AudioQuest Dragon Red. Being as the AQ only allows for USB connection, is there an adapter to 'fix' this? I mention it here because mechanically the Emotiva is good, but the rest of it, not so much. The OP could do something like this, maybe? |
@peterpetre You have been given many suggestions for CD players within your budget. You have also been given other suggestions as to alternative approaches. What are your thoughts? |
The Sony UBP-X800M2 is a mediocre transport. The sound is thin and lacks details. The Emotiva ERC-4, as a transport - especially through optical output, blows the Sony out of the water. Not sure why the Emotiva hate from some of the posters. I had an Emotiva ERC-3 and it sounded quite good and also worked great as a transport. It finally died on me (not recognize the CD’s) after 9 years. I got the Emotiva ERC-4 as a replacement and the transport, especially via optical, is even better than the ERC-3, full of details. I used to believe that all transports are the same since “bits is bits” but apparently that is not the case. As a CD player, the ERC-4 also sounds great. |
ampus,I did like how robust that my ERC3 was, but then the troubles started. One of the RCA outputs Wasn't reliable, so I used the balanced outs with an adapter. Later on, I decided to try one of the digital outs. The RCA digital out did not work at all, but it was too late in the game for warranty. Then I tried the optical out to a DAC and it works. The sound in my system is a bit dull with the ERC3 compared to an older Cayin CD22 that I used. The Cayin pretty much died and that was when I bought the Emotiva. The Cayin had its own set of glitches and finally was more trouble than it is worth at some point. Along the way, I did try out the Rega Apollo R and mostly liked it but didn't have room in my rack for a top loader. It better than the Emotiva, but not as good as the Cayin. |
I recently purchased the Rotel cd11 Tribute player. It sounded ok but nothing special, that is until I swapped out the supplied 18 gauge power cord for another generic 14 gauge cord. I’ve not experienced any component that was so completely improved in every sonic measure by simply changing the power cord. If you own a cd11, I recommend replacing the power cord. At some point in the future I may try an aftermarket cord but for now I’m pleased with the results. |
@peterpetre hey pete, so what did you end up with? |
@ampus , "Not sure why the Emotiva hate from some of the posters." Well, since you asked, I will tell you my experience with the ERC-4. Purchased new/direct from Emotiva. Unit arrived with the metal faceplate for the drive tray bouncing around in the box. No big deal, as you could easily tell that it was just super-glued onto the drive tray to begin with. Easy fix, but it did make me wonder why it wasn’t at least screwed down, other than the actual drive (and tray) are plastic. Gapless playback. The fact that this exists in any player being offered as a "new product" is simply unacceptable. The CD drive itself. I opened the case and removed the shroud, which exposes the CD drive. It’s a plastic Chinese OEM CD-Rom drive for a PC. I looked it up on the internet and they cost $10 a piece. RCA vs XLR. The specs in the manual state that it is a fully balanced CD player. This is NOT the case. The manual states a gain of +3db using XLR vs RCA. Again, NOT the case. Overall Sound. Nothing special. Sounded similar to an old Sony ES CD changer I still use which was manufactured in the mid-90’s. Emotiva claims this as a Reference Grade, Audiophile Grade CD player. Clearly (and I do mean clearly), this is not the case.
Now, the ERC-4 LOOKED nice. Great display, and nice remote. Unfortunately, that’s about where the enjoyment ended for me. I returned it to Emotiva and ate the restocking fee. To be fair, the return was easy, and their support staff didn’t seem too surprised by my request to return the product for a refund. I have had a lot of CD players over the years (and still do), and in my honest opinion, the Emotiva is a $99 CD player in a stamped metal chassis that should cost under $200 (and that’s being generous), but they are selling it as a "Reference Grade/Audiophile Grade" player for $600. No Gapless Playback? Not sure how that made it past the pre-production stage, but that is simply unacceptable in a player being offered in 2022. I returned mine within the 30 day period, ate the restocking fee and moved on. And there you go. |
I would stay away from the Emotiva player. I would go with Marantz or Yamaha if a CD player is what you want. The Audiolab and Cambridge transports are not CD players. They require a DAC. I believe this to be a good way to go, transport and DAC, just want to make sure you understand this. It can be done within your budget. More money will be spent on the transport. A budget DAC from Schiit Audio would likely be as good as those in players within budget. An inexpensive DAC could be replaced at a later date if you desired.
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