I never ask for such advise on these forums as this type of issue requires my own personal research and leg work to figure it out. All the suggestions and recommendations by others won't do you much good if you can't audition the speakers for yourself and make your choice base on your own personal auditions. That's the only way to know for certain what speakers are right for you. There's no other way. I could recommend 20 different speakers to you, but how many of them would you have access to audition? Go out and audition as many speakers as you can, or, take the risk of buying speakers unheard and having to sell them at a loss if you find that don't like them. What else can you do?
Best Holographic Speakers ~$7k per pair
Hello,
I am currently shopping for a whole new system. I demoed Klipsch Cornwall's and Fyne 502SP's. They were both great in their own regard however I was won over by the Fyne Audio 502SP's because of the holographic illusion they were able to generate. I demoed them with a Music Fidelity M6si amp and Bluenote Icon streamer.
They are currently at the top of my list but this is a big investment and I want to make sure I do my due diligence before pulling the trigger.
I am interested to know if there are any other speakers in this price range i should be checking out before making my decision? I listen to a wide variety of music including electronic, classic rock, indy rock, hip-hop, orchestral music etc...
In addition to the holographic nature of the 502SP's I also liked the clarity and punch they gave. I have read about the Ascend Audio ELX towers, Mofi 888's and Tannoy Arden's, but only seem to be able to set up a demo of the Mofi 888's which i plan on doing soon. I live in the LA area if that helps.
Thanks for your help
@julesg13th those are sold direct not via dealer. Last I checked there is a return policy designed to allow in home audition, which is the best kind to know for sure. |
Based upon what you listen to, your room and budget, I would strongly suggest Volti Razz. I’m absolutely smitten with mine. IMO for the money there’s nothing I heard when looking to buy 2 years ago that even came close to the power, dynamics, imaging and tonal correctness. Owned. Pair of Klipsch Heresy 4 and they were very good, but at times fatigue set in. Lifelong fan of British brands like TDL, Mission, Tannoy. I was in the fence for a bit, Volti Razz or Tannoy Cheviots. The customer service, the overall sound and the fit and finish of the Volti won me over. |
T.H.E. Show is coming to Costa Mesa in June. There will be lots of offerings, though not cheap. You want to hear soundstage/imaging? Come on by for a listen. I'm in Orange County 10 miles north of the John Wayne Airport. You can hear the Mermans that I've put together (JBL 18"/JBL 9.7"/Modified AMT), or my one-off Super Big Reds, or... Last year at THE Show, I didn't hear anything that imaged any better than the Mermans, and most nowhere near as well.
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So the guy at Upscale told you Sopra No.1s don’t image? Did they have a pair for you to judge for yourself? They may not be the right speakers for you, but the reason would not be that they don’t image! I think your room may be too large for them to deliver the bass you want. You should still give them a try. Philharmonic and Ohm both are Direct To Consumer. Ohm has a generous return policy, but if they what you’re looking for, you won’t be shipping them back. Semi-omnidirectional with directional cues from a DR tweeter, room-filling and well balanced are how they roll. |
I would move upscale with KEF and try the stunning Reference 1 speakers (not sure how much they cost where you live!). There are scientific reasons why speakers that try to emulate a point source of sound have the 'holographic' qualities you are looking for. I would add that they reduce the need for room treatment and have very large sweet spots. To get a handle on why, have a look at KEF's 40+ page whitepaper on the Reference series. |
The most holographic speakers i have heard in my life are the Omega SAM's they put a huge sound scape that envelopes you in the listening space. I've yet to find a speaker that can do what they did for sound staging. They have other issues though and do need subs to flesh out the bottom end and in the wrong set up can sound a bit shouty. but properly set up they win the holographic sound stage award. second would be the smaller stand mount BBC monitor types like the Proac Tablets, LS's etc. again need bass reinforcement. and wont rock out well. |
@fatdaddy2 i listened to Klipsch Cornwalls, they weren’t very holographic. I still liked them but the Fyne’s blew them out of the water. |
Los Angeles has a lot of great stores. A friend of mine in the audio business is coming out with a new open baffle speaker. That thing sounded great when I heard his working prototype. He is in Ventura. I am going see if I can hear maybe the final version the following week once I quit my current job. Send me a DM if you want address. My friend was blown away by my Yamaha NS5000 speakers that you can get open box for $9k. The comments I heard from him on this speaker have a lot of relevance to me since he is known for the great gear he makes (and his hearing). The NS5000 does everything with a high degree of sophistication (including soundstage). The biggest soundstage I have heard are the Maggies and the KEF Blade. Though the driver on the NS5000 is better than anything else I have heard. It has details like Beryllium drivers but also an analog sound.
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You have gotten a lot of genuinely terrible advice from people that I'm guessing have never heard a truly high end system. Assuming you can pull the speakers at least 60" from the back wall almost any panel speaker will be much more holographic than box speakers at an equivalent price point. In particular, a used pair of Magnepan 3.7s, or even better the 20.7s are inexpensive and simply terrific. Electrostatics also have some real virtues when it comes to soundstage, holographic imaging and transparency. Downside is you do need very good high powered amplification. Panel speakers also have relatively narrow sweet spots so not the best if you are planning on listening with friends or family. Open baffle speakers have never had any depth in my room so missing that 3D holographic quality but otherwise are also quite good. Kef Blades have great imaging but I dislike the way they sound. If all you care about is imaging you can pick up a used pair of Klipsch RP 600M IIs for $300 that will blow you away with the level of detail and imaging but they aren't that involving in my opinion. The Klipsch Forte's, Heresy's and Cornwall's I've heard don't have what you are looking for despite their other merits. And do keep in mind your room is almost as important as the speakers when it comes to how the system sounds and images. At the end of the day it is all about your ears and your room. You should definitely go to T.H.E. show in June. Go to the Final Audio room. I get you will be amazed at the sound vs price point. |
@julesg13th. Remember: JBL 4435's see here Mike |
Of the speakers you suggested, the Ascends will be best because they employ higher quality drivers in a small and braced cabinet. Their drivers are far better quality than you’ll find in most <$6K/pair speakers, aside from DIY. Otherwise, consider a speaker like the SB Acoustics Rinjani Textreme kit, which will blow most of the aforementioned suggestions out of the water. Keep in mind that most commercially available $5K/pair speakers are equipped with tweeters and woofers that would retail for somewhere between $50 and $100 each if they were sold piecemeal by Seas, SB or Scanspeak. Typically, less than 25% of the street price is what went into building those $5K speakers. And don’t be fooled by those who claim their in-house built drivers are superior. They are often inferior to off-shelf drivers if anything. |
Great suggestions here, definitely check out Volti and Ascend. I would also rule out: Revel https://www.revelspeakers.com/ Tyler Acoustics https://tyleracoustics.com/collections/highland Totem https://totemacoustic.com/ Buchardt https://buchardtaudio.com/
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BTW - for Maggies (huge soundstage) you can get them to sound good with a used Sanders Magtech amp for $4k. I had one and sold it. I currently use a Schitt Wotan at $2k to drive my Magnepan Mini. It has stronger bass than the Magtech. This amp is comparable to many $8k amps I have owned and will drive Maggies as good or better than those more expensive amps. |
I wonder if your idea of holographic has some relation to refinement. I owned the SP501's and say they were more refined and can get you deeper into the music (YMMV) than the Cornwalls (owned those too). Another thing to maybe consider is- I prefer a narrow baffle speaker to wider baffle typically. I've always thought the narrow gave a more layered stage than the more powerful and maybe dynamic throw of wide baffle. Finally, also take a look at Devore Super Nines (can be a bit too lively for some) and something from Verity (more of that laid back refinement that I could relate to with the Fyne's Finally, finally the Fynes don't seem to hold redale as well as some other brands, so if you are going to bounce around a bit consider that too.
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I love my Closer Acoustics OGY/BOB set up. Three BOBs have been recommended for larger spaces; I am in an irregular sized listening space that is open to a larger space to one side (a pretty open floor plan home) and use two BOBs on the left and right. I think they are spectacular. But as a colleague once told me, the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not “randomized double blinded study”. So as they say, your mileage may vary. Regarding the tariffs, some things I bought recently had no change in price as it had already come to the US and was in a warehouse here. I ordered these speakers sight unseen, without auditioning, so it was definitely a gamble that paid off for me. Coming from Europe I suspect there will now be that added charge, sadly. Tim |
I don't know if Wavetouch audio Antero is the best holo. But I think Antero is the most accurate and cleanest sound speaker in audio history. https://youtu.be/FfPwc7q3n_A?si=H3QBLOpdDjmbj5FY&t=145 Used V2s are well under your budget. Alex/Wavetouch |
Depends...if you get something like a Andrew Jones Mofi 888 for 5k, you may get some drivers that are superior to off-shelf anything...and you won’t be able to make them for $50 or $100 if you have to do the r&d from scratch.
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Whatever you do, it need work in your listening space. I took my VTL mono blocks to a dealer and ran some ML electrostatics hard and well. Wow! Took the MLs home for demo and they sucked in my space. Wrong transducer in that space. I don’t know why. Sometimes I read this advice forum and it’s like others picking out mail order brides for you. It has to work for you and you only. |
I have had the excellent Studio Electric M4 in my second system for a few months. They are so good i am thinking about these for my main room. https://www.studio-electric.com/FS1%20Loudspeaker.html https://pt.audio/2025/03/01/studio-electric-m5-loudspeakers-review/
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