Thank You! Audiogon Administration. Can not understand why some do not have the discipline to follow simple rules.
Who's running this show?
I’ve hung around Audiogon for several years, have enjoyed it, and have learned alot. I find the forum discussions to be interesting and entertaining.
There were two threads that were recently removed by a "moderator". The first was the one regarding ASR featuring the one and only Amir. It ran for a long time and had well over one thousand posts. Then one day it’s magically gone. The second thread was entitled What will you not buy? and had gone on for a few/several days. It had over three-hundred posts and then earlier today it went away.
This is Audiogon’s site and they can do with it what they wish. If I’m unhappy I’m free to go. I’m okay with that. Here is my interest: who is Audiogon? It seems to be a mystery. There is absolutely no editorial voice, no communication with the administrators/officers/owners etc. Other forums that I visit have some dialogue between the members and the powers that be. T
To quell this curiosity I did a bit of online searching and found out a few things like the presidents name, location, number of employees, etc. This was all third party information; I found no presence at all from Audiogon. Again it’s their business and none of mine. But curiosity killed the cat and likely this thread will suffer the same fate. Anyone else find this interesting or unusual?
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Yes, but I'm not allowed to talk about it. |
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@all Posts/threads can be taken down for many reasons. More recently it is because the thread/subject turned political. This takes away from the subject at hand and causes the thread to deteriorate at a fast pace. Audiogon strives to maintain a forum that is informative, focused, and dynamic. In order to maintain a cohesive and vital database, we moderate the in a number of ways.
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We discourage rude or condescending behavior, but at the same time, we encourage active cooperation and passionate disagreement about audio-related issues, which can sometimes be a fine line. If your Forum Post or Discussion was removed, it is because a user flagged it for breaking our community rules and a Support Agent reviewed the report and agreed. We also will send an email alerting you with a list of reasons why it was removed. |
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Enact strict no political or religious posts which entails much more moderation....hence why some threads last longer than others. (Tammy was on vacation.) Or add a "mosh pit" section where anything goes. The jetsam and the flotsam and the froth. Or Audiogon sponsors a Woodstock just for white guys over 50. |
“Before mass leaders seize the power to fit reality to their lies, their propaganda is marked by its extreme contempt for facts as such, for in their opinion fact depends entirely on the power of man who can fabricate it.” Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism |
Observation/Analysis..... Biden: Very high probability --> Parkinsons Harris: Too much anxiety, stage fright, etc ---> possible mitigation attempts with marijuana, xanax, etc usage ---> starts to sound goofy on stage Computing....Computing.... Solution: Replace Biden with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (only Massachusetts and the great American ladies could save the day perhaps)
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@inna yes, audiogon as a private company can censor and restrict speech all it wants without violating the First Amendment, would stay that only the government shall not a bridge free speech. audiogon will only run into trouble and so on can prove theyre restricting speech based on racial or other discriminatory practices |
Hi @uncledemp, just the Odd of the 'Gon mostly hear... Ummm....given the load the SCrOtUS just laid in our laps..... F March, anyone know the Ides of July? Is the 'Civil War' pic an instructional vid? Even the 'Greater Law Community' is a bit back on heel over This One. Will posts like these find one eventually standing in front of a pock-marked wall without a blindfold? Like the birds reminded...."Attention" ;) |
“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” —Martin Niemöller |
The general consensus appears to be that heaven = upwards direction and hell = downwards direction But, the earth keeps spinnin round and round on me... I can't seem to tell exactly which way's up and which way's down... I hope i end up in the right place when i board that single stage to orbit vehicle... |
If the basic law keeps evolving all the time does it have any real meaning and weight ? Freedom of speech can have only one meaning - you have the right to say anything to anyone anywhere. Audiogon has no legal right to restrict it. Whether you exercise your right or not is up to you. If anyone thinks it's a downward trajectory mess here take a look at what's been happening in France. Or is it to France ? Either way that is truly scary, and potentially even more so. |
@simao , time to plug them into something and try them out! |
By any chance, have you watched any news today on the Supreme Cults last decision of the year? I think you'd take most of what you said back if you did. All the best,
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It was not my intention to initiate a political discussion, but this thread has devolved in to one. We are all frustrated by the current state of affairs. It doesn't matter who you vote for. We, and much of the world, are on a steep decline. Neither party or candidate will change that. We all want pretty much the same thing, but we are seeing the "other side" as the enemy. Back in the day it was us against them. Down with "the man". Power to the people, right on. Now the man has figured out how to get us to hate one another. We are effectively disenfranchised. It doesn't matter who you vote for, things will continue in a downward direction. United we stand, divided we fall. This thread and the deleted one show that if we are not totally fallen, we are staggering on the shakiest of legs. I feel so sorry for the mess we are leaving the younger generation and I don't know how they are gonna reverse the status quo. Do you? |
I'm so glad you brought up that reference as it's so apt. One day they're traditionalists, the next originalists, and on other days, historically aligned with the times of the day. When that doesn't work, they just make stuff up. What they always overlook is that our founding fathers envisioned us having constitutional conventions every 30 years or so so as to keep up with the changing times as it was viewed as "living law" and not written in stone. They just came from living under England where the law always evolved and had no problems with that. All the best, |
The original question...who’s running AudioGon ? Back in the day, it was simple and cheap to post an ad. Audiomart existed, but was basically a ghost town. Then someone got greedy, and completely complicated the process of posting an ad, while charging outlandish fee’s. Back in the day the forum was filled with old school audiophiles that loved to share their knowledge and wisdom. Now, there are still a handful of great audiophiles who post and chime in, but pails in comparison to back then. I rarely go through the ads on AudioGon anymore, and have certainly curtailed my participation on the forums. I don’t know who’s running AudioGon, but in my opinion their doing a horrible job. |
When i was a young nerd, I started a private audio listserv that's older than this forum or anything else i can think of...and i am also on other forums... Hmmm, to truly understand and flow with the forums (all kinds of specimens you may encounter), ya gotta learn to not care, de-sheldonize a bit and understand the deeper cryptic meaning of this audiophile male vocals reference track.
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@immatthewj Bingo! We’re not a true representative democracy due to our founding fathers fear of mob mentality and yet, they’ve found a work around. It boggles the mind of other democracies around the world that someone can win millions more in the popular vote and lose by 30K votes from a few counties in 3 swing states in the Electoral College. All the best, |
