Y'all are so very entertaining.
OCD Mikey disses Magico M9
https://youtu.be/NJssrS0EQfA?t=6002
1:40:00
He said if you thought magico m9 was good at axpona you don't know hifi.
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LOL Hildegard, my German fraulein with 5265 posts !! Youre a TROLL so yes, you'll get my heat.. I dont lay down.. LOL, jesus get a life brother.. 5265 posts means you have posted multiple times every single day for 10 YEARS !!! Does AudioGon employ you ? If they dont, do you have a career ?? clearly not. You are fighting a losing battle my boy. Ive got over 31,000 subscribers that watch my live stream twice a week. Your myopic view of the Audio industry exists HERE on AG, and you think your jabbering fingers on here means something. It means nothing my boy... nothing at all.. Others have certainly figured out im the best to buy from and Im at max sales capacity regardless what you vomit forth. Fortunately I get to refuse business from people I dont wish to sell to, so its great. Yes, I dont take crap. It also means I fight for my buyers.. I dont sell to sensitive people that get feelings hurt from opinions, I weed your asses OUT with my videos.. ROFL... too funny... |
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Can OCD make their point without the following language (all from his post)?
Such language exemplifies the nasty attitude he condemns at A’gon. Not much self control, there. Customers, beware – you’re dealing with a hothead. (So, I do not believe the poster who wrote, "You can call him anytime as much as you would like and he is engaging and patient each time.")
Yep – and he wants your business. LOL. Others have figured this out as well and been subjected to it. |
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@devinplombier +1 on time wasted! |
I have purchased from @mikepowellaudio. It was a great experience, and he is very oriented towards the customer experience. I have no complaints and would not hesitate to buy something from him again. In fact, I plan on it. You can call him anytime as much as you would like and he is engaging and patient each time. |
I like my magico q 7.who wouldn't like 750 lb chunk of aluminum.i roll it around every day to get exercise it is the side benefit of magico I think all the reviewers miss the health benefits of such speaker.we do a few laps you have to buy all audio used to get the value and then there is the fact you get to tour America and meet all kinds of audiophile and thier stuff cuz you can't trust fed ex to ship you might even catch covid or food poising a T a gas quicke mart sushi. What an adventure enjoy the journey and the humor |
You wrote this:
Ok, lets discuss what this thread is actually about. Here is the thread title:
So, this thread is not directly about Magico M9 speakers, it’s about OCD Mikey dissing them. It is also the latest in a deplorable trend that consists in dragging YouTube debris into this forum, ostensibly for "discussion", but hoping for a food fight. That to me is the irritant, not your video per se, which honestly I have not watched. Now I do remember watching your channel, maybe 5 years ago and back in your DIY days you might say, and really enjoying it. But, you have a lot more viewers now.
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It seems very few understand anything to acoustics... They buy but never experiment using clear concepts ....
After that they argue about the gear...As in this thread with insults and more... For any acoustician the gear matter not,he can adapt a room to any system at any price at any budget for the best possible result...
Be proud and become creative.... Buy an acoustics book... Go and search for the ratio LEV / ASW and how to improve it... Go and read all there is about Helmholtz resonators... Read everything from Dr. Edgar Choueiri to understand better what is a stereo system and his innate flaws... You need only to trust your ears and go slowly.... It took me 2 years... Be happy with what you can afford and you will pity almost every one purchasing blindy going for publicity...
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@gano fruit on the ground tbh, but someone's gotta eat it |
@mikepowellaudio I was in the Magico room this year briefly and it sounded stoopid, not saying you’re wrong there..... But, i also swung by your room for a minute at CAF the year before....where you towered over everyone with some dinky li’l speaker made of fill dirt? gravel? whatever, ROFL. It sounded so puny, flaccid and sorry that i ran outta there in 30 secs. It was like your fill-dirt/gravel speaker was apologizing for those 30 secs (the speaker kept saying "I’m sorrryyyyyyyy"). ROFL Before you talk big, ya gotta execute big as well on your own, don’t cha think amiho? ROFL ...Well...I shouldn’t laugh so much, cos i actually felt a li’l sorry for you that day. But, I wish you well, better luck next time.
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that was a low hanging fruit @au_lait |
Thanks for the clarification... Most people has no idea how a room relation to a system matter more than even the system parts because it is acoustics controls which gives to any system the possibility to reach his peak design potential or worse to reach abyssal bad S.Q. way under his real potential even compared to non controlled acoustical mere normal condition
Most consumers hypnotised by marketing has no idea... At best they buy panels... |
I agree Mulveling, Every time you think this hobby's landscape cant get any worse, all you have to do is come here to AudioGon Forums for some good old hate and vitriol... This is where the virus breeds. This petri dish right here. So, lets deal with what's REAL. Lets only listen to members who actually were AT the show and IN the failed Magico room. (Most of you dont leave your home for audio and have no idea what we are talking about. But boy, you love to HATE people you dont know dont you ? I feel bad for your soul). I stand by what I said. If you were there, and think that room sounded good, you need some listening lessons. The feedback was unanimous. A failed room. Am I willing to say M9 are crappy speakers ? Not at all. My comment was that the SETUP was a poor choice and poor execution. So if youd like to discuss that, lets discuss what this thread is actually about. Not about your hatred for others. Mostly by armchair blowhards with no reasonable audio system nor any experience in the industry. So lets see if this group can handle a real conversation. Its about the Magico ROOM. This thread originator wanted to see if other people who had been at the show agree with me about the most expensive room at AXPONA being a failure. Looks like the people who were actually there agree. Even others replying have had similar experiences with so called "mega expensive" rooms that simply dont cut the mustard. Its not uncommon. I feel that by ALL MEANS you should question every audio spokesperson you are listening to on YouTube. Any of them telling you the Magico room sounded good should flip a red flag about either their expertise in listening or their possible financial reason to promote. Find out what dealer is engaging their promotion services. What manufacturer is hiring them. I happen to be on the inside of this and know a lot more about who is paying who for what. Unfortunately you, the viewer is the unknowing recipient of paid advertising cloaked as "reviews" or commentary/coverage. I may be raw and uncut, but you can bet Im not paid by a corporation to be this way. Its my way of hinting to you that Im different than the other paid YouTube advertisers. Im not doing favors or getting paid to fluff certain brands the way the very nice, calm and soft spoken guys are. Consider it may be a corporate "politically correct" demeanor for a corporate client. In other words they need to attract new companies to pay them, and who is going to pay a wingnut like me ? Its a clear message to you that Im not paid, as Im not controllable.;-) I do however sell like crazy and make many people happy to get off the merry go round of buying and selling audio gear. This is my 25 year career, not a "side gig" and Ive got patents in audio design and have owned a long standing California Amplifier manufacturer. Most of you have no idea the depth and breadth of my experience. So there you have it. All this because of one sentence I mentioned on my livestream on my channel on another web platform. . I guess my word must carry weight for people to get so flustered. So, as much as some of you who dont know me, love to hate me, I am getting stronger and stronger because I actually provide great results consistently. and I actually exhibit at the shows as well.. to prove myself in an open, public forum for you to judge my skill.. not just blab my mouth on TV.. I also open my livestream
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Who listens to ocd anyway? He bad mouths every brand, every dealer, but he comes to the rescue with his gear. The room is the #1 area that needs to be fixed before doing anything. A bad room will make a great speaker sound like sh$t. But a good room can make a bad speaker sound a little better, but can’t perform magic. As for changing the way speakers sound, there are many ways to do this for either free or for small amount of money. Speaker positioning can alter the sound in a big way. Change the inside wiring or alter the crossover to make sq changes. |
....anyone who has the wherewithal to drop 3/4's of a mil on a pair of M9's wouldn't have the slightest interest in mho about them. As one who applauds the use of different materials for an enclosure for speakers but sees pretty much the 'same old same old' batch of drivers mounted in them, I'm kinda disappointed. JBL decades back 'round about the era of the L100's made a plastic enclosure that seemed to perform decent....but disappeared rather quickly... Ah....drilling around....'dah taha' 🎶 The colors were rather brash, but taste being what it can be....*L* Given the choice, I'd opt for a pair of MBL's, given the rarified pedigree level. ...and you live in a gated community with security staffing... Just saying.... |
How is it that if my room speakers sound not to my taste (too much bass, too much highs, unnatural timbre etc) i can modify it at will at no cost ?
How is it and why no reviewers ever explained how to do it with any speakers at any cost?
Simple, you are supposed to buy and stay ignorant as i was for all my life believing in gear marketing as solutions... For sure gear design of various quality exist, we get what we pay for, once this is said a very acceptable good sound can be implemented at peanuts cost, it is relative to your needs, if you learn acoustics... It was even useful to understand my headphone (K340)behaviour and optimize it as i did with my low cost speakers ... I never listen reviewers now i listen my room.... |
Mikey does not smoke weed. Or drink. He thinks there are better speakers out there for the money than Magico and his main issue is the aluminum enclosure. You might not like Mike but he has 25 years in the business, has designed his own speakers and cables, knows hit shite and has the best intentions and good ears. Personally, I'd never buy Magico speakers as there are better speakers. Do what's best for yourself. |
What a waste of a report from him. He said that it probably was the room not the system. That's the problem. At shows if a system sounds great it is. If it sounds bad you have no idea what's going on. So why report on the sound then. Magico is a big company and this waste of time won't hurt them. But if this was a new, small company a report like this could hurt a company and maybe even put them out of business. It's irresponsible to do this kind of show report. By the way. Who is this guy. I never heard of him before. Is he just what he's complaining about, another 'expert' who only exists because anyone can post on the internet? |
The average "super audiophile" prospective customer...is sitting in a room in his house that’s acoustically worse than the hotel room. Room construction and treatment are like kryptonite for such a super audiophile cat...he shall fix everything with cables, his secret weapon! I.e., rest assured, it will sound even worse than the hotel room in the rooms of Magic0’s prospective super audiophile customers. But Magic0 shall always have the following excuses, i suppose.. A) it’s not the speaker, it’s the room B) it’s not the speaker, it’s the electronics C) it’s not the speaker, it’s YOU (prospective customer). It shall NEVER be Magic0’s fault! In any case, there were other speakers at the show that actually sounded good, considering they had to face the same realities of a hotel room setup, yes? They were able to create some magic that magic0 couldn’t, it seems. Hence, Magic0 shouldn’t get any free passes, yes?
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While I occasionally drop into his channel to appreciate some of the interesting gear, OCD Mike himself Is hard to take. He’s like a combination of every obnoxious, loud, opinionated audiophile and audio salesman I’ve ever met rolled into one. hey, he seems to mistake having a loud opinion With being a “No BS truth teller.” He projects a heavy sleazeball vibe, And frankly, some of the people he seems to hang out with and admire Only reinforce that. |
A few years back I heard a top praised amplifier company paired up with a top praised speaker company that was all the rage at the time for some folks. This was at a decent audio show. This particular room and components sounded about 89th out of 89 rooms, Absolutely horrible. The source used, room selected, speaker setup, and positioning was about as bad as as it could be and it sure sounded that way. Felt bad for the designers of the manufacturers who never intended for their products to be displayed and set up like this for the public to hear this way. Over time, you kind of learn until you hear things in your room and with your system, setup, you never really know.
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All the speakers i ever heard in my life sound bad in various ways in a non controlled room...All of them... There is certainly exception but i dont know them... And even if a pair of speakers seems to sound good for your ears, be sure that they dont sound at all like they were designed to be at their OPTIMAL best in most living room..And the difference in performance is huge between a living room and a dedicated completely controlled room.... ( i know that for sure i take 2 years to create one ) I owned the Tannoy dual gold for 40 years and i neve4r heard them really all these years ... Why? Like most audiophiles i ignored completely the basic acoustics principles and how to use and control the parameters at play and they are intricate and numerous... Subjectivist who "Taste" speakers brand name or objectivist who measured them are in the same bag, they ignore how to set a room to let a specific speakers reach his peak performance ... Then a reviewer bash a brand ? So what... All reviewers spoke the same language as the consumers : costlier upgrade of their prefered brand name miraculous gear solution proposition with no acoustics basic...
Take the speed of sound divide it by the room dimensions and you will know why in my past room the sound wave cross the room 80 times each second interacting with all the acoustic various material content of the room .... This must ring a bell no ? it ring a bell in my brain when i begun to thought about the way to control these reflections path and pressure nodes... Nevermind the speakers and his price... We always hear a system /room ....Not a branded name....
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@kofibaffour LANGUAGE! |
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