Dear @jerryg123 : Does not exist that " hypocrisy " you named, I love MUSIC and I like to listen my over 6K LPs in my analog rig but I'm not so stupid to not enjoy the digiotal superior medium.
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So enjoy your Analog to Digital and back to Analog... "
not really, your ears at the end has an ADC for your brain can process and you can " understand " the LP recorded MUSIC. Yes, you listen not in analog but digital:
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With the hair cells, we come to the end of the audio path inside the ear. Hair cells are neurons, and the purpose of the outer hair cells is to convert the mechanical vibrations that come from their cilia into nerve signals. Such signals are binary (all or nothing), and seem to be completely decorrelated from the analogue signals to which they correspond. In other words, they're digital signals, and the inner hair cells are analogue‑to‑digital converters. """
All the human been cells including the neurones in the brain are comunicated in between through neuro-transmitters using mainly electric impulses after bio-quimic proccess ( not continuous but impulse after impulse after impulse... ). In reality the binary comunication human been system is really complex as it complex that scientifics know for sure not even the 20% of the brain full operational status.
1. Don’t want to see an old guy with a terrible haircut 2. Don’t want to see an old guy with a terrible haircut make stupid statements 3. Don’t want to waste my time watching an old guy with a terrible haircut making stupid statements.
@rauliruegas Wish I could understand what you are trying to convey. Thinking you like the digital domain as I too enjoy it but prefer analog/vinyl. Yes I have a great analog front end and a collection going back to when I was 10.
Dude you have like 3 turntables in your system. Bit of hypocrisy.
So enjoy your Analog to Digital and back to Analog.You should read what Nelson Pass has to say about distortion in audio. Here I found this video so you do not have to read. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Prz6IpHlSg Enjoy the music and DISTORTION IS GOOD.
Dear @jerryg123 : Don't buy it if you don't own between 500-1000 LPs and even that don't buy it if you don't have a wealthy pocket to really enjoy MUSIC enjoy those LPs and even that do not buy it if you don't have high knowledge and skills levels to make your self overall cartridges/TT/tonearms/Pono stage set up and finally do not buy a TT if you have not enough patience to make that that analog rig be as good experience of listen MUSIC as the best digital set ups that today no matters what is a " little " superior to the analog experiences other than live MUSIC.
thanx to CEDAR NR, i can sorta enjoy the sound of vinyl at least in real time. much of my music is restored dubs of LPs. i have always been extra-sensitive to surface noise, wow from warps, inner groove distortion, subtle mistracking damage from previous owners of records i have. lordy i'd love to have me one of those ELP machines.
Man, what is with the obsession with the so called crackle and pop? I have very little of it, and even when it exists, it is not bothersome, as the music sounds great through a great analog set up. I will say it, if you are not into records, you are missing out...such a shame. Even my freakin thrift store finds sound awesome! All nice and cleaned up with my record dr V. You are also missing out if you are not into cassettes and Cassette decks...not the cheap A$$ ones, the nice 3 head Naks and Awai decks of the day. People crap all over cassettes because they never heard them on a great deck. Look at John Devore’s videos....he’s got some nice decks....I'm sorry, but some people are screwy...
I love the sound of Vinyl but not the care and feeding it requires. I used to rip Vinyl and listen through my PC/DAC/Music Server to this day. Very rarely did I break out a disc to spin. I used to do a first play onto cassette before the digital age saved me so much trouble.
Screw Vinyl and the greedy flippers that buy and sell it for profit. I sold my collection many years ago and have never looked back.
I have friends with excellent Vinyl rigs and collections. So I go to their places when I want to hear some LP’s.
@pedroeb yet you stream your digital content, upload, download, or play a CD and run that signal through a Digital to ANALOG converter and push that signal to your amp. So what is your point? Analog to Digital to Analog. Talk about delusional….
The recording industry is digital and even tapes are converted to digital.
If you only listen to recordings made on tape and pressed before going digital, that's terrific. If you listen to modern recordings or modern pressings, you're deluding yourself.
nnicola, none of the above. I have plenty of room, I can buy whatever I please, I'm buried in records so I need to be able to play them and the very best recordings I have are digital. The turntable is tradition, its involving in a way that digital is not and what the hell am I going to do with all these records. There is so much terrific music here that needs to be played. I love turntables like I love old sports cars. Electric is going to take over and there will be some incredible cars, faster than anything an internal combustion engine could dream of but, the soul that I have been craving all my life will be missing. Old love affairs die hard.
Many older audiophiles still have their vinyl and CDs and have been through everything Steve talks about. Many younger audiophiles have been streaming for years and are just getting into vinyl. So good for them. One of my good friends (who's 18) is really into vinyl and loves shopping for it. I love seeing his reaction when he buys some classic vinyl. Our next goal is to update his system.
6. You’re too old and out of shape to get up and turn the record over after Side 1. 7. Your wife has threatened to see a divorce lawyer if you buy one more piece of audio equipment. 8. The gas bill is overdue, and that didn’t work out well last winter when, instead of paying the gas bill, you purchased a huge tube amp that barely heated one room. 9. You’re up to your ears in audio equipment down in your basement. There is no more room to put anything. To accommodate the new turntable, you’ll either have to rent storage space, or sell something. Making a decision like that could paralyze you for a month. 10. If you buy a new turntable, you’ll have to get into yet another discussion about “analog vs. digital” with your “friends” on the Audiogon Forum, and you would rather eat broken glass.
I sure enjoy watching Steve's (and many other YouTube reviewers) videos a lot more than reading certain posts on Agon forums. I enjoy reading most posts, though.
That’s totally fine. The video is made for the guys who try to make excuse for themselves or for youngsters who looking for better SQ but not able to handle simple handy and brain work and that’s totally fine… less people in the sector - chipper the records. :)
Steve G is a nice guy. So it seems. Agree or disagree, he presents information in a pleasant manner. And speaks well to the up and coming audiophiles. I have enjoyed watching several Of his videos.
1. You do not currently own any records. 2. You never intend to buy or borrow any records. 3. You have never heard just how good an analog record can sound.
Actually, I would add to the list that if someone is the type of person that would constantly be worried about alignment, VTF, VTA, antiskate and record cleaning, they are much better off with digital. I’ve seen more than one person who cannot enjoy vinyl because they are too stressed out about setup. @mijostyn5, I agree with you in part, but the fact is a lot of young people are buying vinyl now because they think it’s cool. Aside from that, I have never read a post anywhere from a person owning top-shelf analog and digital setups say the digital sounds better. I understand how some people are so annoyed by some random pops that they can’t enjoy the medium, but with proper record care, it’s really not that much.
Actually, the reason not to get into vinyl in that it is an antiquated, obsolete, problem ridden medium fondly remembered by old men like the Edsel Ford. It is a waste of money and space better spent on buying music and hard drives.
It's likely the setup for the next video, "Top SIX Reasons to Buy A Turntable".
Everyone here should thank Steve. He is one of the few actually doing a decent job of getting newbies interested in the hobby, helping to keep recording and equipment manufacturers breathing. You'll be selling your current gear to those viewers some day.
Before you mock Steve's shirts, please note that they made by his wife with point-to-point threading.
Actually, he isn't wrong on any count. Especially when he says he thinks records sound better.
I've actually advised younger people who've heard my system the same. I mean, does it really make sense to spend 10k+ on the vinyl part of your system if you only have a handful of records? Especially when well produced high resolution digital can sound excellent, until you compare it to an upper tier analog system.
1- listening to 10 or so tracts when ya only like 3 2- getting up every 10 min. To find another 3 ya like 3- payment plan needed to buy any 3 ya like 4- payment plan needed to buy old Technology 5- snap crackle and pop is a breakfast cereal
1. You already have 7 turntables. 2. You gave away all your vinyl LP’s in 1988 when CD’s became popular and absolutely refuse to buy all your favorite records all over again. 3. Your cat claws at the tonearm of your turntable when you’re spinning LP’s. 4. You’ve been convinced that turntables are “the devil’s work” ever since you played all your Led Zeppelin records backwards when you were tripping on acid. 5. You’re secretly concerned that your hearing is shot and you won’t be able to tell the difference between analog and digital after spending a ton of money on a high-end turntable.
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