What are/were the best sounding cheap components you have ever had?
It is easy to like the best of the best, so to say. However it is always satifying and memorable when an inexpensive product turns out to be very good to great.
Some that come to mind from personal experience"
Large Advents (original)
Early Nakamichi SR receivers
Original Monster interconnects and speaker wire
Pioneer Pl-12 turntable
Shure M-95
Early Stax and Audio Technica headphones
MoFi "special" pressings
Magnum Dynalab Etude. Yes some were better, but a real value
The Absolute Sound mag in the beginning
Early Conrad-Johnson and Audio Research tube electronics
Early Classe integrated amps.
The original Sony Trinitrons
And there are others....but part of this hobby is enjoying the journey.
Have you had cost effective items that were successful for your enjoyment?
Rega Planar 2 - $19.00 - Goodwill in Los Gatos
AR XA - $39.00 - Yard Sell in Exeter
Bryston 3B SST - $1000 - Radio station going out of biz - Cape Cod
Klipsch 600M - $200 - Seller's GF beat with chain - eBag
Thiel .5 - $60 - Some guy on CL - Boston
Lenovo PC Server - $75 - Druggie in 7-11 parking lot - Boston
Once upon a long while ago, I bought a pair of Speaker Lab 2 way raw kits for my first 'outside the box' diy cabinets.
Based on a top half of the curved back of the capital R with same proportion face width of the box designed for those drivers, just taller to keep the cubic volume the same. Out of oak strips for the curve....Clear oil finish...
Sounded better than they deserved to.
Have pics, but the speakers ended up with a my landlady when she bought an AR table at my suggestion and I bought the 901's....to her later dismay...
"Jerry....do you realize I can hear your stereo over mine....indoors...?"
Back in the 70’s, I had some cheap car speakers mounted in cardboard boxes. They sounded like crap But wait, after listening to nothing else for several weeks, they stared to sound pretty good. Was it the boxes? Was it all that weed? Hey, you asked for cheap right? 🤣
Cheap chinsy. Yes, it is out there. Price conscious, inexpensive, less costly. It is all out there, but to demean and then ask for recommendations is a left-handed compliment at best. "Where did you get that suit, JC Penny? You look great in it." That is how some people come across, maybe not even realizing it. Then there are the mean people. But mostly, as I notice grammar, spelling, intent, 'opportunity', etc. it reminds me just how poorly we may be expressing ourselves.
The intent in this thread is simple enough. What component comes to mind that didn't cost what you thought that it should, that also sounded beyond your expectations?
You get what you pay for is true enough so much of the time, yet there have been notable exceptions.
doggone thing beat fancy ifi ... cambridge duo, .... it hides behind, linear in/out, I prefer my phono in my mx110z and my Luxman, but to get up and listening, it's surprisingly good.
ghdprentice, Your advice is always "sound". There is no cheap way to good sound, no matter what your budget is.
Forty plus years into my HiFi journey I am finally able to afford some better gear. I try to put those $$$ into well planned upgrades that are not subtle. Most recent was my Toolshed 300b , in fact it's so good I sold my soul for it's companion preamp that's under construction now. I took inventory of stuff I wasn't using, sold some stuff including my existing pre and put my trusty Sonic Frontiers SFL-1 in the system temporarily. That move demonstrated how good the Zesto Leto was , it was a giant leap backward in sound quality with that no longer in the system.
I think your rational in spending two or three times more than the component being replaced for an appreciable impact is spot on. Anything less is often a lateral move or slight improvement. I'd rather be patient, save a little more and enjoy marked improvement.
You know. I saw this thread a while ago. Unless I can think of a way to add value… I tend to just follow it and not comment.
After some thought… my answer is never. I have never had a cheap component that sounded great, I have had cost effective… or good budget components. But, the only components that have blown my socks off have been incredibly well thought out and constructed audiophile equipment. Not one “cheap” component that I can think of ever sounded great. I have owned at least a hundred components. I would imagine after over fifty years of pursuing the high end for my main system, portable speaker system (I spent over ten years living in motels), portable headphone systems (I spent over 40 years while traveling and listening (pursuing the best possible sound), permanent headphone system (20 years pursuing the best), and permanent office system.
While looking for bargains is great. The way to get a truely great audio system is not to look for cheap stuff. You just get cheap stuff… and it might at best sound OK.
Great sound comes from dedicated companies willing to invest in research and development, quality components, and outstanding manufacturing quality.
schiit modi 3. since buying it i've had multiple $500-1000 dacs through here and none offered enough improvement to justify the additional spend for me. going to try the denafrips one all the reviewers rave about before writing off that whole price bracket as a waste of money for me...don't know when i'll get to it though, because i am playing the cartridge upgrade game at the moment (ultimately i care more about vinyl than digital playback, and funds are limited.) but yeah the modi is a killer little piece of equipment in my experience
My first was cheap... pioneer amp 25 watts with Kenwood speakers when Kenwood was made in Japan. They were my first set and I thought everything sounded as good and when I tried to change as they got older, boy was I wrong. This was so long ago that if you bought something older than this, you have to be dead.
NAD 7225PE 25W receiver I used from 1991 to 2015...beautiful sounding and the most reliable component I've ever owned. It remained powered on for years (no kidding) with not one hiccup.
Denon DRA-355 receiver I found at a yard sale for $15. sounded stooopid good compared to my Parasound A21/P3 combo. Sadly, it didn't last too long. It was already tired.
I have inherited and been gifted some great sounding stuff, but what cheap things have I bought and paid for?
latest, for my office system:
1. AR-2ax speakers, buy, ship, restore: $750. total, sound terrific office system. Just bought a 2nd pair to restore. All/any needed parts readily available.
2. DAC, Topping D10s, $110. based on advice here. Was using PC's headphone jack to Luxman 10 wpc tube amp. Now PC's usb out to Topping to that little luxman. OBVIOUSLY Better SQ (exactly what I asked for) 75% typically, now vol at 35% typically, prior needed 75%.
1976, Olm Walsh, new, forget model number, loved them.
1982, Stereo 70, second hand store, $25, worked, rebuilt and mild upgrades, sold years later for $500
1983, ADS (200?) little aluminum housed two ways, filled with sand, bought at yard sale $10, cleaned them out, upgraded caps, offered $500 from a higher end audio shop back then, I still have them.
OPPO bdp 83SE, bought new, going to sell it finally.
Most everything else was bought wholesale or DIY, very nice but moderate cost gear.
----
Car Audio
Eclipse 8443 head unit, had 6 at one time, $50-100 each, still dang fine sounding.
Image Dynamics R2R DAC, $1000, list price was $2500, 20v balanced outputs, blind tested against top line home audio DACs, it did quite well.
Image Dynamics rack mount EQ's and crossover (custom Yamaha built), 20v balanced through them. DAC and above where upgraded after bought as well.
With the right vehicles, very intense layout and install effort, one can do things in mobile system that are very difficult to do in a home audio system and for very CHEAP, under $2k though I have built a $30k mobile system that of course was better but not 15 times better.
NAD 3155 integrated, bought as a floor demo in 1985 with an NAD 5325 CD player (same vintage). Both still performing flawlessly in the third system, what a deal.
Sansui AU-505, bought new in 1974. Amazing sound, currently being rebuilt.
Yard sale LPs and CDs some amazing finds for $1.00 or less great rock, jazz and classical music in mint condition especially back in the day folks were getting rid of their vinyl. Sometimes I’d come home with 50 pieces for under $25. I’ve ended up with thousands of great musical gems.
Dayton Audio class D amplifier - for less than $100 it punched a crazy sound!
Amari LP10 turntable - around $500 in China. Very very good at this price.
Dali Zensor 1 speakers. Surprisingly fantastic entry level speakers.
Pure Avalon tabletop radio - it is by far my most listened piece of gear. It’s playing almost 24/7 and it sounds great in my kitchen.
Oppo bdp 103 - second hand. Great player!
Bluesound Node - second hand. This really made a change in my house for the best.
I'm surprised Magnepan hasn't been mentioned yet (unless I missed it somewhere). I bought a pair of the LSR's for my son and a was simply amazed what those speakers could do at that price.
NAD 3020 bought new in 1978 for $200. Unfailingly musical and quite versatile with its pre/amp in/out jacks. A favorite recommendation of The Audio Critic.
- Acoustic Research XA turntable, $78 retail (!) in 1969.
- Decca Blue pickup, $140 in 1972.
- SME 3009 Mk.2 Improved, $295 (iirc) in 1973.
- Townshend Audio Rock Elite turntable, $650 in the early-90’s.
- A couple of used Zeta arms, $600 and $800 iirc.
- Herron VTPH-1mm, direct from Keith for $1225.
Even better are the LP’s and CD’s I’ve acquired over the past 55 or so years (Music Millennium in Portland had it’s bi-annual sidewalk sale a week ago, thousands of VG+ to Mint condition LP’s for $2 apiece. My racks swelled by another 40 or so discs), the value of which is to me immeasurable. As Mazzy (Norman Mazlov) has been reminding us in his latest Vinyl Community YouTube Videos, "It’s about the music, stupid."
My first tube phono preamp was a steal at $200 in 1987—the then new Croft Micro. I replaced all the resistors with Holco metal films, doubled up the power supply for each channel, and swapped the 12AU7 for a black plate CV5042.
You must have a verified phone number and physical address in order to post in the Audiogon Forums. Please return to Audiogon.com and complete this step. If you have any questions please contact Support.
