Thirty Days in the Hole

mr_m 1,3,4,2 makes the sound better! (Yes, I’m kidding)

MC is/was a source of considerable Knowledge/opinions but when derived with a sledge hammer or a scolding ...you can guess the rest.

Proselytizing to the point of being shrill is a turn off. (My speakers, Amp(s), room, car, political leanings are the best = Zzzzzz)

@bjesien  Agreed, I think Oscar Wilde said it best (and he only needed 6 words):

"Brevity is the soul of wit."

@artemus_5 

´´ In the end , only kindness matters  ´´

To young, to old, just right.. 153624. Inline 6 firing order. See I share.. :-) They are all the same..

Even the diesels?

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Is there something else? :-) 

What is a diesel? 2500 psi. More pressure is fine, but LESS pressure, it will not fire. It is NOT a diesel..

2500 psi and a persons name "Diesel"

Regards

+1 @ artemus_5

The Monsters are not only due on Maple Street; they are here.

Thanks "MC", I was able to upgrade my system of separates with your advice without spending six figures.  BlackHawk took some time to get use too but it has proven to be the best investment for my money. (Had an SAE 2600 and CT-7, 4000 with La Scala's). You see I'm not rich or well off.

Reading some of this post reminds me of "attack of the clones" you can't beat them join.  take if for what you want it to be and move on. 

It has taken some time to get the break in time recommended for the Blackhawk. Most fire it up for a few hours on the weekend.  For my music it was the best upgrade made. Spent three times the cost on secondhand products (AudioGon) included that did not live up to the hype of the owner. 

MC advised "don't throw good money after bad" which is probably better than any of the other info found in many of these threads.  

If looking for advice in the future, MCs' threads will be the first one that is will look too can't recall many others except "oldhvymec4", Mopar or LS, what your flavor.  Take what you need and leave the rest. Just enjoy what you like and don't try to like what someone else enjoys. 

Perhaps MC is moabbing around at Tekton or burning in and installing wire hangers at Porsche. Could be designing a vacuum cleaner that’ll suck the dust harmlessly around tweaked flooring. Could be he’s watched the movie ‘Hook’ and decided to stay in Never never land..It's all in fun, a great hobby, enjoy the music.

Cheers 

To young, to old, just right.. 153624. Inline 6 firing order. See I share.. :-) They are all the same..

Well, er... while we are at it. To and Too are not interchangeable. Ok, carry on.

@femoore12 

This obsession with MC has crossed over into Mania. 

@dadork 

I think it's pretty sad so many people are in favor of shutting other people up. I think it's sad so many people get their feelsies hurt by reading something that they want to banish people. I didn't care for everything MC said and he could be obnoxious but I'm an adult and can get over it without wanting people disappeared. As I said in an earlier thread that was deleted, we used to be a people who would hear both sides of an issue and form our own opinion. That's becoming a lost art apparently. Too many people want only one message and group think. 

Best posts of this thread. I'll just add this. If you look for the bad in someone, you will always find it. Likewise, if you look for the good in people, you will find it too.

I once had an Old Testament Prof who's theology I disagreed with. However his PhD was in OT, and he taught it from a historical POV. I soaked up what he taught, NOT because I agreed with his overall view but because he knew something that I didn't and I wanted to learn.

The sad thing is the hate that lives here on this BB. This "mania" is a product of hate. Its either hate or childishness. So are you a hater or a child? Or both?

I can't imagine someone having the free time to post 15000 times in a few years. On top of that many of his posts were lengthy. I could do without the 12000 awesome product posts. In this realm when someone really goes on about how great a product is, it generally shows they don't get out much. I'd appreciate a miller light reincarnation. 

@whiteknee 

Very true.

MC personality is highly charged, and his sarcasm can be devastating.  However underneath it he radiated a bit of an aura that while money in this hobby mattered, that there were audio principles which couldn't be bought.  Now discovering that he was a  secret shill for a few product lines blows a hole in his credibility

tuberist - agree! MC is a joke. Notice that he is selling his beloved raven on US Audio Mart so people on agon won't notice that he is selling something that he touted about being the best. Maybe he has been talking to nelson pass lately and Nelson convinced him that his products are the best. I wonder where he will be selling his Tetons? probably on Canada's audio mart

I think he's still interviewing with Kevin Deal.

To young, to old, just right.. 153624. Inline 6 firing order. See I share.. :-) They are all the same..

Even the diesels?

MillerCarbon is the very best on this site, a bit pithy, but very knowledgeable.  I miss his posts a bunch. 

I miss MC as much as I will miss NY, JM, GN, and The others on Spotify.

Not at all.

I think it's pretty sad so many people are in favor of shutting other people up. I think it's sad so many people get their feelsies hurt by reading something that they want to banish people. I didn't care for everything MC said and he could be obnoxious but I'm an adult and can get over it without wanting people disappeared. As I said in an earlier thread that was deleted, we used to be a people who would hear both sides of an issue and form our own opinion. That's becoming a lost art apparently. Too many people want only one message and group think. 

@pdreher , yes, he does that sometimes...puts down liberals and thinks its cute.

That's the pot calling the kettle black eh?

spotify meltdown?

@10229 

Me too!  

Thank you for knocking the scab off a healing wound OP 🙄

As the saying goes “ Even From Beyond The Grave “ this Toxic individual engenders Fractious Disharmony upon this forum … Good Riddance 

no need to get personal…..

A few days ago I PM'd MC asking if he was okay. No reply.

He may be very ill or worse.

He lives very near my brother's home and always offered an Open House

policy which I appreciated. Last year I took him up on a short visit.

He is very convinced about several things I can't buy into personally.

His writing style hits me like fingernails on a chalkboard. 

That said I still do not miss his posts.  Some of

the others that have gone away the last 24 months are

sorely missed. Ralph??

This MC topic reminds me of CNN missing Trump

Inline 4cyl. Firing order, left to right.

1-2-4-3.  ;-)

George definitely had a kangaroo loose in the top paddock, don’t know if he could pull off a sock puppet. MC - plain NPD, probably here right now.

@csmgolf

MC and George can both stay gone. This place is much better without them.

1) i tend to agree, it would be nice if they could contribute here and bring their knowledge and experience, without the attitude, drama, childish trigger-happiness - but these two, even if they have all good intentions (an open question) have shown that are quite unable to do that

2) that said, i suspect one or both may actually still be present, laying low, using pseudonyms... trying on revised personas

440hz guitarsam was a wild one

was he the one who used to shove wads of paper into light sockets?

Well thanks, I'll try to remember that. As you can tell my reading and writing skill are a product of my OJT. It sure had nothing to do with grade school or any school for that matter. The school of hard knocks.. LOL No time or money in those days. Me and my Big brother.. That makes good sense, since you brought it up. That's my two cents worth.

To young, to old, just right.. 153624. Inline 6 firing order. See I share.. :-) They are all the same..

Being a happy Townshend Rock MkII (plus sink) owner and having crossed Max’s path a few times over the years I have come in to bat for Chuck a couple of times over the last year, oblivious of the fact that he was an appointed TA agent. 

Leaves a rather unpleasant aftertaste.

@heretobuy +1 on keeping the Raven attack/PL counter on point. Not a global generalization, but a specific charge rebutted by specific evidence tailored to that charge and nothing more. 

FWIW, I miss the guy, his absence is glaring.  His knowledge and insight at times was significant.  He didn’t pull any punches and defended what he believed in pretty passionately.  To put him in the same sentence as Kenjit is just plain ridiculous.

I want to make this observation: with MC gone, temporarily or permanently, we as a group seem obsessed with MC’s absence. He’s probably enjoying that --as he would say: "rent free." It’s like a bad relationship or something.

The last time the issue came up, I said I didn’t care whether he was going to be banned or not; I’d just ignore the threads that get contentious. Without his presence, he is "still here" in our minds.

No reproach- just an observation.

Bill

oldhvymec - it’s “since,” not “sense,” as in, “he’s got no sense improperly using the word sense instead of the word since.” Since when, you ask? Since every time he used the word sense in this thread!  Just my two cents…

I've learned a lot from many of you including MC. Thank you to all that show a way that has worked for you, and don't dismantle other opinions. Especially if you have never tried it.

I hope those who are former posters here (or on hiatus) remain in good health, especially so during these times. Other than that, why would the comings and goings of those on the forum be of such concern? This is just an audio group. If these folks were really your friends, you’d have alternative ways of contacting them, right?

The thread that was lost in the Raven thread was that Raven had put up a video implying that Primaluna is a product made with cheap components and Coolie labor for a huge markup, whereas Raven was an American made product where you get every nickel you paid for it, and Deal opened up the bottom of the respective products and showed what they were made of. It was primarily the Raven claim he was disputing, not making any particular explicit claim about relative sound quality. He didn't deny the Raven was a good sounding piece of equipment.

I don't care where he is. It really gets old when certain people constantly derail interesting threads with politics, medical advice, and insisting you buy the products THEY like. Quite a few members quit posting altogether. Why bother trying to share information and experience if the thread is just going to be trashed and probably deleted? This is weird probably, but I thought geoffkait(spelling?) was hilarious when he was here.He did get on a few people's nerves though:-)

I have had a Raven for the past year after a Cary Audio Sl 80 F1 signature and a Hegal H390 and I can tell with my system, I noticed a significant and positive improvement in my Soundstage, depth, width and height.  The air between instruments was more defined. Is it my end all, be all amp, no. But for the money relative to the other amps I had, this was a nice upgrade. Part of the hobby is enjoying the music and striving for that emotional goose bumps experience.  Hope this helps as I am like a lot of us here...learning, growing and enjoying the ride.

Whatever dude.

I don’t really miss MC but he does have a lot of knowledge I can benefit from. As for George, I do miss his knowledge, +2 to bring back George. What’s the deal with MC, 30-days or more?

oldhvy - I had no idea how much George posted about fuses. I mostly just went on about my business when I saw many about the subject. I do think the loss in revenue was also at play here.

I now know one needs to tread lightly, still learning.

I don't know why everyone is so down on MC.  I thought he had some good insights and I picked up some good information from him.  Frankly., there were (are) other posters who were (are) fragrantly guilty of ad hominem attacks on each other. I just dismiss their comments as childish and non-credible.  MC does seem to have been guilty of a little hypocrisy by pushing the Raven and the Townshend pods.  As far as the pods, I believe The Absolute Sound spoke well of them and so I'll give then a shot based on their recommendation.

This obsession with MC has crossed over into Mania. 

Thanks for that Jerry, I usually buy used so I lean heavy on these forums, I lurked in the shadows for a long time.