Heavy difficult to move speakers- how do you deal?


I have a tough decision. I have speakers with built-in casters and move around quite easily. But I’m thinking about buying new speakers that have spikes and discs and weigh 120 pounds each.

Has anybody figured out a way to make life easier should you want to move a speaker around your home or even a couple feet from where they currently are?

 

emergingsoul

@ozzy62

 

I always have six sliders around… vinyl side for on carpet and carpet covering for wood floors.

But seldom have I ever needed them. I have the delivery guys put in approx position and they are simple to pivot and walk one corner at a time. My speakers are about 120 lbs and it is trivial and of no real work or stress to walk them to change positions slightly. I have a bad back. 

Many people here have spoken highly of these Herbies Gliders.  Not only do they make it easy to move speakers, several have experienced significant performance improvements and they’re relatively cheap.  Win win win.  Hope this helps.

https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/threaded-stud-glider

I use a hand truck with a blanket to protect the finish and it works really well.

I am an advocate of alternate positions, alternate toe-ins, especially related to Imaging for one or two listeners.

I move mine frequently

Furniture Type Dual Wheel Caster's Axels are firm, single wheel axels, even high quality, wobble. 

3 (not 4) Casters. will always be steady, no shims needed anywhere you move them. More downward weight (+33%) per caster.

An apron/skirt (my current speakers shown below) concealing the casters automatically prevents tipping.

Rear Anti-Tip blocks. 2 casters up front, 1 rear center caster, no apron/skirt: you need to prevent tipping.

Put 'anti-tip' blocks in the rear corners, just a little shorter in height than the casters, they only touch the floor if the speaker starts to tip. 

Lastly, tilt: aim the tweeters at seated ear height (see the unfinished pine 2x4 above my front casters, lifts the front 1-1/2". The upward tilt also alters the angle of reflection off the floor and ceiling

 

OP,

I would imagine it would be possible to put castors as there is a drilled out steel plate forming its bass for the steel points. , But to take such a spectacular speaker and then significantly compromise the sound quality  with castors would be a real shame. 

Another vote for future sliders.  I have them under my speakers and my amps.

don't put the spikes and protectors in place until you have your speakers in place.....then tilt the speakers for inserting the spikes

@elliottbnewcombjr....Only suggestion is a caster upgrade.....

The purists are upset about 'cabinet desecration', but the base of it done neatly could a whole new avenue for the tilt'er types...;)

'Ell, I'm guilty....have one pair of Maggies' upside down and another pair of large Heils' at the same angle.....

Take me away from the 'roo court, I could use a vaca of sorts.....*G*

Oh,,,,someone elses' dime, puleze.😎

I used a regular dolly… you know… carpeted on two sides with four casters. I covered the whole thing with padding and felt. You can lower your speakers gently on them and roll away…!

 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CV6hgvklm57/?igsh=aWs3N3FwcTViZ3R0
 

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I removed the spikes from my Montana EPX speakers (150 pounds each) and purchased 2" threaded caster wheels that screw in where the spikes were. Works very well and the speakers still sound very good.

 

 

I use Isoacoustics GAYA feet, so caster wheels are a no no in my case. Instead I placed butcher blocks under the GAYAs on top of my carpet. Even so my speakers weigh over 200 lbs, I can still make small placement adjustments by sliding the blocks on the carpet. It takes strong hands, but would be easy with 120 lbs speakers.

Example:

My Gustard x26 pro uses coax for a digital FM tuner, AES for CD transport, I2s for streamer and optical for Puffin phono stage. And I got Bluetooth too! LOL

 

I've had good luck with Giant Herbies Sliders.  They allow me to easily move my floor standers out from the wall for serious listening.  My speakers only weigh 60# ( half of yours) and my carpet is low, so your experience might differ.  But it might be worth trying.

few ways out:

1. find strong neighbor to help you

2. bulk yourself up at the gym

3. use dollies instead of casters (when you get help or bulk-up)

4. if you have space for forklift, you don't need strong neighbor or bulking up.

 

Make sure to cyro treat the casters and have them engineered for directionality. 

Wait! There might just be a new market opening up.

Tweaks that Roll, or Moving Tweaks. Caster Snake Oil. 

I really like what @lak said.  Most of mine have a place to screw in already.  But I am little weird about them sitting on casters from a purist standpoint.

THERE ARE VERY SLIPPERY  SLIDERS OUT THERE - I HAVE 6  OF THESE UNDER MY DUNLAY 6 SPEAKERS (520LBS) AND I CAN MOVE THEM SORT OF ENOUGH TO GET TO THE CONNECTORS - THESE WOULD WORK GREAT UNDER LIGHTER SPEAKERS

The sliders will work but you will have to get the discs under the spikes before setting them on the sliders which is a PITA.

 

Alternative idea to move them only once for placement purposes:  get a piece of Masonite that is a few inches larger than the footprint of the spikes of the G5s and put the glossy side down.  Slide around until you've dialed the position, mark the spot then remove the Masonite.  Pro tip from a former mover:  Cut the Masonite in half, duct tape the two halves back together on the rough side, this will be the side facing up under the speaker.  Slide around all you want then when set, peel off the duct tape, tip the speaker to remove one half of the Masonite, tip the speaker the other direction remove second piece of Masonite and Done! 

If you don’t use the $7500 quantum tech sliders by QSA, your soundstage will never be right. Something about the way they slide aligns the speakers’ molecules. The difference in sound is not subtle. When your wife runs in from the kitchen to ask if you bought a whole new system, just please make sure the quantum sliders aren’t on the floor. She’ll slide right out the window. 

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Yes, Dunlavy VI speakers weigh 520 lbs each. I'd love to hear your opinion of them @clockwerk99.

@clockwerk99

Any chance getting the brand name for those really slippery sliders.

Thanks

 

 

I walk them, keeping one foot on the ground at all times. To put it on a plinth, you can even walk the speaker up onto a 1x4 then a 2x4.

I bought a bunch of helium balloons, maybe that’ll help.

And I’m now dating someone from the women’s wrestling Federation.

I think addl speaker manufactures need to do what Bowers does. The spikes Drop down and the casters go away. I think McIntosh needs to sell their tank like amplifiers to be rolled out of the boxes on a nice looking rack that’s on casters.

People need to move speakers and amplifiers around.

 

 

like skeptikal I tilt and walk my +120 lbs speaker around, but I'm on carpet over concrete, I had speakers that weighed 285 lbs ea and inched them around with a hand cart with a blanket protecting the finish of the speakers. 

@emergingsoul

Thanks for the thread...

My Vandy's weigh 175lb each. I seldom move them, but some great sliders may change that.

 

Also - 3 ton? Is that melodrama or just a mistake?   

1 metric ton = 2204 lbs. So, a pair of 520 lb. speakers weighs ~0.471 ton, not 3 ton. Still, I am glad that I am not installing them!

@inagroove

Despite being a CPA, I’m not very good with math. tons are tons. That’s a lot of weight.

Despite being a CPA, I’m not very good with math. tons are tons. That’s a lot of weight

CPA with poor math??? Any other surprise of the day?

@czarivey

How much does 10,000 records weigh? An amazing collection you must have. 

@emergingsoul, 

how can CPA be with poor math and poor communication skills?

I've moved enough heavy speakers in and out of and around my house that this was a worthwhile investment:  https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-1-000-lbs-Capacity-Dual-Handle-Hand-Truck-60138/202204469

I wrapped some thick foam around the front of the posts to avoid scratching speakers.

@big_greg

Agreed. It's very obvious, and I said it earlier in the thread.

Forget sliders if you are moving speakers around the house....Get a 2 wheel dolly on Amazon. Much easier. I never like "sliding 120 lbs. around the house."

Unscrew one of the spikes and take it to a big box hardware store. Go to the fastener section and gently try the spike's threads in the thread sizer until it goes in smoothly. Record the size and search for a caster with matching threads. Verify the load rating of the four casters to support the weight of your speaker.

No drilling. No foolish sliders. 

I fitted commercial casters to my 400 lb + per speakers to position them and after marking the floor with tape, I left the casters on in case I ever wanted to change position.  I never have and I doubt that being on casters rather than spikes affects the sound.  

I wouldn’t put casters on speakers any more than I’d  put spikes on a moving crate especially when there are products like Herbies Gliders built for the purpose, but that’s me.  

Try threaded stem mount leveling casters from Footmaster. These will let you roll the speakers around on casters then drop them down on rubber pads built into the caster foot and level your speakers at the same time. What you have to do is match up the threads your speaker uses for its spikes to the casters. If they are not the same you can get threaded rod that changes where one end fits the caster and the other fits the speaker.

 

+1 Furniture sliders with adhesive attached to the bottom of the discs holding the spikes. This has made it easy to adjust the position of my 100+ pound towers.