Heavy difficult to move speakers- how do you deal?


I have a tough decision. I have speakers with built-in casters and move around quite easily. But I’m thinking about buying new speakers that have spikes and discs and weigh 120 pounds each.

Has anybody figured out a way to make life easier should you want to move a speaker around your home or even a couple feet from where they currently are?

 

emergingsoul

I just got my Von schweikert Endeavour. While only 85 lbs each (slightly less than a ton) they are difficult to move because of their shape. Just hard to grasp. I like the Masonite idea as I can leave custom footers in place and still adjust placement. 

I have my speakers on Gaia one’s.  They are on a 20”x22” piece of granite.  Under the granite, I have four furniture sliders. With a bit of umph, I can do any adjustments I need to.

All the best.

Definitely get help,4 hands are alot better than 2 .Especially if they are over 150 lbs.

On most our heavy speakers castors are built into the stands, one you have the desired location, spikes on outriggers lift the speaker off the castors.  https://pbnaudio.com/mr-777/

Happy Listening

 

Peter

I have a pair of Paragon Acoustics Regents. I am not sure how much they weigh. I have heard 150lbs, to 185lbs. These are lead lined and very heavy. I move mine with a cloth covering them with a furniture dolly for more than 10ft. I use furniture sliders for less than 10ft.

Townshend Audio Seismic Podiums do an amazing job of cutting the transmission of vibration between speakers, floor and your system. Difference in my system compared to casters was startling (200+ lb speakers).

Because the isolating springs are in housings above the rubber feet you can put sliders under the feet with no harm to sound quality.

Really terrific ideas.

Speaks to a serious need for speaker manufactures to consider what people are having to go through and offer solutions in line with how they've created their speaker feet.

 

+1 Furniture sliders with adhesive attached to the bottom of the discs holding the spikes. This has made it easy to adjust the position of my 100+ pound towers.

Try threaded stem mount leveling casters from Footmaster. These will let you roll the speakers around on casters then drop them down on rubber pads built into the caster foot and level your speakers at the same time. What you have to do is match up the threads your speaker uses for its spikes to the casters. If they are not the same you can get threaded rod that changes where one end fits the caster and the other fits the speaker.

 

I wouldn’t put casters on speakers any more than I’d  put spikes on a moving crate especially when there are products like Herbies Gliders built for the purpose, but that’s me.  

I fitted commercial casters to my 400 lb + per speakers to position them and after marking the floor with tape, I left the casters on in case I ever wanted to change position.  I never have and I doubt that being on casters rather than spikes affects the sound.  

Unscrew one of the spikes and take it to a big box hardware store. Go to the fastener section and gently try the spike's threads in the thread sizer until it goes in smoothly. Record the size and search for a caster with matching threads. Verify the load rating of the four casters to support the weight of your speaker.

No drilling. No foolish sliders. 

Forget sliders if you are moving speakers around the house....Get a 2 wheel dolly on Amazon. Much easier. I never like "sliding 120 lbs. around the house."

@big_greg

Agreed. It's very obvious, and I said it earlier in the thread.

I've moved enough heavy speakers in and out of and around my house that this was a worthwhile investment:  https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-1-000-lbs-Capacity-Dual-Handle-Hand-Truck-60138/202204469

I wrapped some thick foam around the front of the posts to avoid scratching speakers.

@emergingsoul, 

how can CPA be with poor math and poor communication skills?

@czarivey

How much does 10,000 records weigh? An amazing collection you must have. 

Despite being a CPA, I’m not very good with math. tons are tons. That’s a lot of weight

CPA with poor math??? Any other surprise of the day?

@inagroove

Despite being a CPA, I’m not very good with math. tons are tons. That’s a lot of weight.

@emergingsoul

Thanks for the thread...

My Vandy's weigh 175lb each. I seldom move them, but some great sliders may change that.

 

Also - 3 ton? Is that melodrama or just a mistake?   

1 metric ton = 2204 lbs. So, a pair of 520 lb. speakers weighs ~0.471 ton, not 3 ton. Still, I am glad that I am not installing them!

like skeptikal I tilt and walk my +120 lbs speaker around, but I'm on carpet over concrete, I had speakers that weighed 285 lbs ea and inched them around with a hand cart with a blanket protecting the finish of the speakers. 

I bought a bunch of helium balloons, maybe that’ll help.

And I’m now dating someone from the women’s wrestling Federation.

I think addl speaker manufactures need to do what Bowers does. The spikes Drop down and the casters go away. I think McIntosh needs to sell their tank like amplifiers to be rolled out of the boxes on a nice looking rack that’s on casters.

People need to move speakers and amplifiers around.

 

 

I walk them, keeping one foot on the ground at all times. To put it on a plinth, you can even walk the speaker up onto a 1x4 then a 2x4.

@clockwerk99

Any chance getting the brand name for those really slippery sliders.

Thanks

 

 

Yes, Dunlavy VI speakers weigh 520 lbs each. I'd love to hear your opinion of them @clockwerk99.

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If you don’t use the $7500 quantum tech sliders by QSA, your soundstage will never be right. Something about the way they slide aligns the speakers’ molecules. The difference in sound is not subtle. When your wife runs in from the kitchen to ask if you bought a whole new system, just please make sure the quantum sliders aren’t on the floor. She’ll slide right out the window. 

The sliders will work but you will have to get the discs under the spikes before setting them on the sliders which is a PITA.

 

Alternative idea to move them only once for placement purposes:  get a piece of Masonite that is a few inches larger than the footprint of the spikes of the G5s and put the glossy side down.  Slide around until you've dialed the position, mark the spot then remove the Masonite.  Pro tip from a former mover:  Cut the Masonite in half, duct tape the two halves back together on the rough side, this will be the side facing up under the speaker.  Slide around all you want then when set, peel off the duct tape, tip the speaker to remove one half of the Masonite, tip the speaker the other direction remove second piece of Masonite and Done! 

THERE ARE VERY SLIPPERY  SLIDERS OUT THERE - I HAVE 6  OF THESE UNDER MY DUNLAY 6 SPEAKERS (520LBS) AND I CAN MOVE THEM SORT OF ENOUGH TO GET TO THE CONNECTORS - THESE WOULD WORK GREAT UNDER LIGHTER SPEAKERS

I really like what @lak said.  Most of mine have a place to screw in already.  But I am little weird about them sitting on casters from a purist standpoint.

Make sure to cyro treat the casters and have them engineered for directionality. 

Wait! There might just be a new market opening up.

Tweaks that Roll, or Moving Tweaks. Caster Snake Oil. 

few ways out:

1. find strong neighbor to help you

2. bulk yourself up at the gym

3. use dollies instead of casters (when you get help or bulk-up)

4. if you have space for forklift, you don't need strong neighbor or bulking up.

 

I've had good luck with Giant Herbies Sliders.  They allow me to easily move my floor standers out from the wall for serious listening.  My speakers only weigh 60# ( half of yours) and my carpet is low, so your experience might differ.  But it might be worth trying.

Example:

My Gustard x26 pro uses coax for a digital FM tuner, AES for CD transport, I2s for streamer and optical for Puffin phono stage. And I got Bluetooth too! LOL

 

I use Isoacoustics GAYA feet, so caster wheels are a no no in my case. Instead I placed butcher blocks under the GAYAs on top of my carpet. Even so my speakers weigh over 200 lbs, I can still make small placement adjustments by sliding the blocks on the carpet. It takes strong hands, but would be easy with 120 lbs speakers.

I removed the spikes from my Montana EPX speakers (150 pounds each) and purchased 2" threaded caster wheels that screw in where the spikes were. Works very well and the speakers still sound very good.

 

 

I used a regular dolly… you know… carpeted on two sides with four casters. I covered the whole thing with padding and felt. You can lower your speakers gently on them and roll away…!

 

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@elliottbnewcombjr....Only suggestion is a caster upgrade.....

The purists are upset about 'cabinet desecration', but the base of it done neatly could a whole new avenue for the tilt'er types...;)

'Ell, I'm guilty....have one pair of Maggies' upside down and another pair of large Heils' at the same angle.....

Take me away from the 'roo court, I could use a vaca of sorts.....*G*

Oh,,,,someone elses' dime, puleze.😎

don't put the spikes and protectors in place until you have your speakers in place.....then tilt the speakers for inserting the spikes

Another vote for future sliders.  I have them under my speakers and my amps.