YES!, They should be the same length.
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No, but like most of us, if you had two different lengths, you’d always be wondering if it would sound better if they were. So mine are the same length even though I could have saved a few bucks if I hadn’t. But I like the reason above for keeping them the same length - resale value and ease to sell them. |
Yes, you can do it. Won't hurt a thing. Will save you some money. Then maybe some day later on down the road you get something better. Until then, relax and enjoy. |
This is almost as entertaining as a closely matched UFC bout. I prefer same length, but I need to ask the OP: "Why NOT the same length?" If you're running in-wall, got it. But if not in-wall, you've got plenty of space in your listening room if you have to drape/coil/hang/etc. (there goes another discussion...) the excess on the longer side. |
if the right/left length differential is greater than 5% it will ruin the stereo imaging if greater than 15% it will void the warranty on your speakers if greater than 25% it will be may cause a short circuit in your power amp if greater than 40% it will be a fire risk and you should only listen to music with nomex suit on and fire extinguisher in hand 😂 |
I'm gonna have to go with the OCD thing too, in the house. Funny thing I've done a lot of auto/equipment installs for stereo gear. I use to cut and trim all the extra wire. Nothing was the same length.. Butt connectors everywhere then shrink and zip tie everything. 5,000 watts in an excavator cab.. Like the guy gave a crap. Using a 10,000 pound breaker, breaking concrete with the volume at 10. Have to have ballistic glass just to keep from blowing it out.. I'm not a robot |
The person who asked if he could splice 12 to 14 ga. wire.; - - - well to that I'd say "with the equipment "laundry list" you stated, the last thing I'd be worrying about is wiring." Coat hangers might even be O.K. This person must really be on a tight budget. I don't think "HIGH END AUDIO" is the hobby for you. Sorry for the sarcasm ! |
Ohm's Law is a handy tool. Learn a little about basic electricity. People who would pay over $50 for 20' of speaker wire are buying a fashon designers idea or a name that says I'm buying the best because it has "your name here" on it. My system sounds real good. Blows out candels and will flap pant legs and I could have spent a lot more money if I wouldn't have gone to school to learn about electronics. When it comes to high end audio, most of the time I think you can buy better but you can't pay more... |
Hello, If you don’t have a high resolving system I doubt anyone would notice a difference. If you do splice the wires together look up how to do it correctly. Lastly if you want to get into some better quality cables especially if the lengths don’t matter keep your eyes open for singles. They are typically sold for a high end home theater center channel speaker. The discounts are insane on the used market and if you stick to popular companies you can find two different people selling the same cable model and brand. Also, look at discontinued models from these manufacturers. They really lose value fast. I hope this helps. This store in the Chicagoland area is holding an Ayre Acoustics, Nordost, and Kef event today Thursday, Dec 2nd from 11:00am-9:00pm. Probably not as good as Chuxpona, but I am pretty far from Seattle maybe someday. I heard they are giving special discounts for the show. Plus, since Axpona was canceled it’s cool to see some of the cool new stuff. I’m excited about that and the new Acoustic Signature Turntable. A friend said it sound incredible! |
Yes! And coiling the extra cable is NOT audible, don't care what anyone says. In fact, instead of coiling , you can fold it over onto itself and use ty wraps. If using a different length for each channel, the resistance, inductance, and capacitance will differ for each channel. Why not eliminate that by using same length? |
As an exercise for the perennially geeked, calculating the differences in capacitance, inductance should give a few seconds of mathematical bliss - at least. intuitively, one would want as small a difference as possible (obviously), but a few CM aren’t going to change anything appreciably to anything but an oscilloscope. We’re not quite approaching Planck constants for time or length, but what human auditory perception and spatial orientation will define. this does seem to be a hobby for Asperger’s syndromish fussbudgets, so, you do you, enjoy. Keep us posted on your results.
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For people working towards or that have an audiophile system they must be concerned with all aspects of a system that may have an impact. In the end every minute detail matters. But, as the OP pointed out this is not a highly resolving system. If you start working towards one, then, one of the steps will be to buy high end speaker cables… at that point they should be of the same length. In the mean time… one highly recommended speaker cable to consider (let’s see if I can get this right); HD12-3? Years ago either Stereophile or the Absolute Sound did a comparison of a number of low to intermediate speaker cables. They threw in a Home Depot extension cord… ends cut off. It actually sounded pretty good… didn’t win against $1K cables but sounded way better than lamp cord and Radio Shack 18” gauge speaker wire”. I loved the article it was great fun and informative. While I use $5K Transparent cables on my main system. I use HD12-3 on my office system… hidden because of the orange and black color behind my desk. |
No, it's a non-issue. I defy anyone to hear a difference with the lengths used in the average domestic room. There are more phase issues and time smear from a speaker crossover and even more if the speaker is ported. As far as unbalancing the image, room acoustics will make a farce of that.
If the longer cable is a gauge heavier then even the amp's damping factor is maintained. Keep the cable to the nearest speaker short. Consider the alternative. If there is, say, 8ft extra, what will you do? Coiling it up is worse than having different lengths. Think inductor tucked away amongst all the other mess of wires.
Rather pay attention to your room' acoustics which will do more, much more, than fussing over equal lengths. |
Ah - so custom install, not quite full in-wall, but close. Yes, no issues with differing lengths. I've said before I have a tough time discerning differences between cables, but if say you have your audio rack on the outside edge of once of the speakers (which I thought was the case), why not buy an identical set, and just coil/drape/suspend/whatever the cables over to the speakers. If anything, as said before - it would help with resale, but I figure you won't be reselling the underfloor wire anytime soon. Sounds like you've got a fun project ahead! 😃
Same here - I started doing my own car audio custom installs in college (were those the days!) - underseat/trunk/dash mounted amps, and wires of way too varying lengths going all over the place. It's probably the OCD in many of us when I got into the home stereo listening craze (er- wife calls it a disease): a pair a speakers, audio rack in the middle, and EQUAL length cables. 😋 Again, not sure if I could tell the difference if one side was longer than the other, but it wouldn't "sit" right with me if they were differing lengths. |
Sounds like you have a mold problem, ghdprentice. Just kidding... but are you serious about using an extension cord? It’s about $80 for 100 feet on Amazon; for about $10 more, you can get nice 10 gauge real live speaker wire. |
Some speaker wires are custom cut and terminated/soldered and I guess if it was expensive enough you could save a few bucks with different length cables. However I have OCD when it comes to my stereo with everything being lined up perfectly, no cables touching each other or the floor, etc., so for me they should be equal because there is some electrically measurable difference with different lengths that is not audible, but still "there". That's enough for me. I am sure we've all bought something that was supposedly better that we paid extra for that is not audible or detectable as an improvement individually. |
That's the UFC bout portion of this discussion, @limomangus . Yes, you can have a pair of speaker cables of different lengths to a stereo set. Technically, the % difference in electrical parameters of two different lengths of speaker cable is very small. So there's arguments on both sides on whether it's audible or not. For me, I wouldn't be able to discern the difference - too busy listening to the music. However - the difference is still there (audible or not), so why not make them the same length if you easily can? But also again, for custom installs or other extenuating circumstances which make it hard to keep both lengths the same - cut away! |