I upgraded my Arcam CD73t to an Audiolab 9000cdt and couldn't be happier. I'm still shocked by how much better all my cds sound than the through the Arcam with the same DAC (Pro-ject RS2). The instruments sound way more real and separated - also much better soundstage. Overall just sounds more like live music as opposed to reproduction.
I've had a NuPrime CDT-8 Pro for just over a year. Thus far, it has worked without any problems and the sound quality is probably the best I've had in digital. I'm using it with a Micromega MyDac connected via an Audioquest Coffee S/PDIF. It also has a sampling rate converter which allows you to tweak the sound. In my instance, the 88.2KHz seems to be best. You may want to read some reviews on it and see if it might be a good fit for you. Sound is very detailed and seems to reflect what is on the recording. In conjunction with everything else, I'm getting a deep/broad soundstage with excellent imaging. Even with a modestly priced DAC it performs very well. |
@tweak1, yeah I got the Shanling ET3 to pair with the my new: Eversolo DMP- A8 Music Streamer, DAP, DAC, Preamp, 4GDDR4 + 64GeMMC AK4191EQ + AK4499EX, ARC Input, IIS Output, UV Meters, Spectrums, Parametric EQ,Pre AMP + 10dB Analog gain, DSD512 PCM768kHz/32bit. I like the idea of having 'HiFi' with 'MidFi' prices, good bang for the buck or very good price/performance ratio. |
@tyray Ive owned a CDT 6000 for 2+ years. Great value. Never an issue, unless the remote batteries were too low. I highly recommend it, especially when they often show up used for ~ $350. That said, the Shanling appears to be even better, but at 3Xs the price |
@tweak1, sorry for not getting back to you. The AudioLab 6000CDT transport is just built right that punches way above it's price point. I actually prefer the non-tray transport CD feeder than a tray transport feeder that seems to get degraded and lose it's mechanical stability after time of use and exposes the cd lens to dust. And I never had any of my cd's scratched. There are plenty reviews of the AudioLab 6000CDT that I suggest you read as most are actually positive and review it's functionalities. I just spotted a used one here, check out the description:
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If anyone seriously wants to buy an excellent, used Jay’s CDT2 MK3 I know where you can probably get a nice deal. It used to be my CDT2 MK3 but I sold it last Oct/Nov and purchased a new CDT3 MK3.
PM me if interested Toolbox149 |
Took an interest in this thread to the point where I'm itching to try out the Shanling ET3 (but I wont') and I read some reviews on a site where the owners say they preferred the Shanling to the Jay's CDT-2 Mk3 and the Project CDT (they didn't mention which one though). Just some more food for thought. All the best, |
Want to save $1900?? Try this: an used Pioneer DV-578A player used as a transport. In my case it feeds a bel canto e.One series DAC3 from its 24/96 digital output. Has the same bass solidarity as the transport in the much more expensive Pioneer transports, and wipes every other CD player or transport I've tried with the DAC3. Sound of my combo is side-by-side equivalent as the Oppo 205 player.....and I have no doubt that a newer/better DAC would make the combo superior.
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@burtlake, I just ordered the Shanling ET3 straight from the source for a whopping total of $724.00. It’ll be awhile until I get it and run it through it’s paces. Time to sell my AudioLab 6000CDT... |
@chuckie I am about to put in an order for a Jay's CD2 MKIII. Glad to see your response. |
@gnoworyta - owned my AudioLab 6000CDT for a couple of years now. Never had a problem with scratching, but I can see and understand the concern. Some see it as a "potential" problem. Some see a tray as a "flimsy problem" waiting to break. There are "potential" problems in everything if you look. I believe AudioLab’s replacement to the 6000CDT (aka newer upgraded) changed to a tray just because they felt they may be loosing market share to a perceived/inherent problem with slot loading. That being said, if you don't want to risk a slot loader I would recommend the newer tray model. I don't own one, haven't heard it, but if its anything like the 6000CDT it will impress. |
+++++++1 for the Audiolab 6000CDT, at $600 it is an absolute steal.....I still own mine and have no immediate plans to replace, it's not a weak link in my system. I've had zero problems with mine, and it's used almost daily for 2 years ++++++1 for the Jay's Audio CDT2 MKIII, best transport I've ever heard in my system, and what I will buy whenever I upgrade |
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@jetter makes a good point. I actually assumed the CDT2 was discontinued when the CDT3 was introduced but that was incorrect — thanks jetter. The only reputable place I found that sells it new is this one that’s linked through Jay’s website. https://www.beatechnik.com/product-page/cdt2-mk3 Although saving upwards of $500 isn’t insignificant, I tend to agree with jetter that in this case buying new might be money well spent. Frankly, and although $2k does seem to be the going market value for a used CDT2, I’d think around $1500 is much more reasonable and has sold for that amount in the recent past. Not sure why the discount for a used unit is so little these days. Anyway… |
It's a little above your budget but I would recommend that you consider a TEAC VRDS 701. I have one and I like it very much. I had a horrible experience with a PSA PerfectWave transport that used a cheap computer grade CD drive and I vowed that I would never buy another transport from a manufacturer that didn't specify the origin of the drive mechanism. There are only a few reputable drive manufacturers - Phillips, TEAC, Marantz, and a couple others. I would strongly suggest that you go with a transport that uses a CD drive from one of the big three. The Phillips drives are out of production but there are several manufacturers who are using NOS drives - Jay's Audio being a good example. I own two transports; a Jay's Audio CD3 MkIII and the TEAC. I also own a Marantz KI Ruby SACD player that has a coax output so it can be used as a transport. I'm running a Berkeley Alpha Reference II MQA DAC plus an Audio Mirror Tubadour IV DAC. I've compared all three transports through both DACs and they sound essentially identical to my ears. One option would be to buy a used Marantz SACD player, such as an SA 8005, and use that as a transport. This would likely be a better transport than buying a new transport that uses a cheaper CD drive. I had two Marantz players over fifteen years (and thousands of CD plays) and I never had a drive fail. My PSA PerfectWave transport had three drives fail in 5 years. In another thread I commented that anyone who plays CDs regularly should buy the nicest transport they can afford. It's the component that you most interact with and it's the component that is most prone to breakdown. When you operate a transport like the TEAC, Jay's Audio, or any of the Marantz SACD players, you can just feel the quality. The drawer is quiet and moves smoothly. The mechanism is absolutely silent. When you compare that to a transport that uses a cheap mechanism the quality difference is obvious. Everytime that cheap plastic tray noisely sides out and goes "clunk" and then loudly slides back in and you hear the motor spin up, you will wish you had spent more money on a nice transport. |
@vinylvalet i have the Shanling on order; will report back after I get it later this week. Seems to check all the boxes for $750. I had the Audiolab previously and liked it- sold it as I was concerned about the talk of the slot loading potentially scratching CDs… unfortunately I don’t have it now to try side by side - been using a cheap DVD player in the interim …(expected @jasonbourne52 to weigh in on that by now!) |
+5 for the AudioLab 6000CDT. Brilliant simple unit. Designed as a transport only. Excellent power supply. Sound is clean and immediate. I have not had a single CD that would not play in it regardless of condition or origin. I can't see why you would need to spend $2000 when this is like $500 used. The newer model incorporates a tray instead of a slot loader if that is a worry for you (hasn't been for me). |
I have a Project RS2T in my more expensive system, sounds Fabulous. There have been issues with them, see audiogon forum. I have returned 2 and have been successful with my 3rd. It has the stream unlimited cd mechanism CD pro 8 and the blue tiger cd-84 servo system. The others that have it are over 10K. I also have a second system, which uses a Audiolab 6000CDT with a very good DAC and sounds Great. There is a considerable difference though, clarity and dynamics especially! However, until Project gets all the bugs out I would be suspect in purchasing one at this time. If they do, its a clear winner, bar none!! Ps the 6000 CDT is a very good machine. I might even consider the jay model too, very good reviews. Robert |
Depends how you look at it. What is this unit, a year or two old? Yet the ad says:
Who would treat a practically new unit this way? But more than that, TMR wants $2044 when shipping costs are included and a 3-month warranty versus buying a brand new one with a 12-month warranty for $2498. I don't know about you, but I am willing to shell out the extra $454 for a brand-new unit with better warranty. Same goes if TMR accepted an offer to sell for $100 less. |
Cyrus makes a good one, the Cyrus cdt. I’m loving mine, especially the deal I got on it from the music room. It takes up far less room than some of the others, which was important to me, as my allocated living room real estate Is limited by the wife factor....I am also partial to the UK stuff. https://www.whathifi.com/cyrus/cd-t/review |