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Hopefully, this is a Chapter 11 ( re-organization) vs. Chapter 7 ( full liquidation and closure). However, it certainly looks like the latter. Apparently there is a long list of un-paid creditors! With some luck, I am hoping that another entity will step in and keep them afloat..and alive. This company has made some truly excellent products over the years. Very sad to hear about their travails. |
I own and love ARC but as I have said before, their decision to go all-in with the KT-150 was a mistake. Likely only one of fifty or more but still a mistake. The labor-intensive hand assembly of every circuit board and component here in the US did not help. Reported reliability issues had to hurt. As just one example, my Ref 150 SE which I purchased new in 2017 has a design problem with in-rush current on start-up. It is not a question of if, but when, as to the input fuse blowing and taking the board out with it. The successor 160M, 160S, and 80S implemented a relay-circuit with soft-start. A bit too late imho. It is my understanding they were tough on dealers with all types of rules and restrictions and their dealer network eroded as a result. It will be interesting to see that else gets revealed but as I said, I am sure it a widespread litany of problems. |
@fsonicsmith1 Going all- in with KT150’s was a mistake? IMO, this tube is pretty superior sounding ( depending on the circuit) to the older KT88’s, 6550’s and even the KT120’s. ARC was always looking for the way forward, which meant going to the latest tubes and designing around them. OTOH, if ARC are continuing to have reliability issues, ( I was unaware of this), then that would indeed be an area of concern. |
It is neither right now. What the company seeks is receivership, which could mean liquidation, but it could also mean a structured sale is in the works. There’s no way to tell without inside information. It’s possible the court or creditors could oppose the receivership, which could force ARC into bankruptcy. |
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I am on my 3rd AR pre amp and have loved all three. I would hate to see them go, but I really can’t imagine that someone wouldn’t come along and save them from total demise. Maybe Fine Sounds will buy them back, I would imagine that it is not lack of sales but mis management that has caused this I hope that someone will at the very least take on the service side of their business. |
Here is a post from someone associated with ARC that was posted on What's Best Forum within the last 45 Minutes. They are presently operating and near a potential new owner agreement according to the below "Hello, everyone. This is my first post on What's Best because I want you to know what is happening at Audio Research. Some of you know me since I was hire by Bill Johnson at Audio Research in 1989. I left for a few years and returned to ARC in 1996. |
Unfortunately, I agree with @testpilot Anyone who is keen to buy an AR product would be well-advised to wait until the dust settles. |
@fsonicsmith1 while I agree that buying reliable KT 150’s can be a chore, there are some vendors who do sell them and they seem fine. I have had luck with Upscale audio, among others. Buying on eBay is not advised. |
Jim McShane wrote me before the Russia-Ukraine war started that he could not and would not sell KT150's because he had to buy hundred to find five or ten decent tubes. If you look at his website now, he cites to advancing age and refusing to support Russia for his decision to stop selling tubes (which does not make total sense since the New Sensor factory is American owned). But all that said, yes, you can find good ones from Upscale. Everything after Kevin Deal is tough. TC Tubes used to be a reliable source of tubes for me and they no longer sell KT150's. |
I do find it surprising that ARC, facing such financial trouble, would be shelling out $50,000 or more to attend Axpona. I realize they shared expenses with Wadax but after you pay for shipping gear, hotel rooms, entertainment expense, I bet it was 50K easy. Gear does not get sold at Axpona, particularly when you are not showing new product. |
A lot of moving parts here. Taking the high ground, ARC may have stood firmly by their origional mission statement and operated as such, long after "the numbers" didn’t align with those objectives. As far as Axpona is concerned, there may have been opportunities there that were under the radar, such as having the "right" people in the "right" place at the "right" time -- potential buyers of the business? Or, it could have just been a proper Swan Song for a company that’s been a major contributor to high end audio for generations? Hoping the owners land on their feet, or a the very least, get out of this alive. Some don’t. |
In my view a brand with this sort of value will get bought by one of the HiFi aggregator companies that are rapidly buying up many other iconic brands. It won't go away completely, but it will be something very different from what it is today. As someone previously said, it's to be expected with these types of small, closely-held businesses. |
@fsonicsmith1 There is an inexpensive device called a current inrush limiter that is a kind of thermister. Any technician can install one in minutes. We've been using them for decades. When cold it has a higher resistance; when you turn the amp on, the current thru it causes the resistance to drop as it heats. Very simple and reliable. I think you are right about the KT150. IMO if you're going to use an amp using hi powered pentode power tubes, the KT88 is still the best option- there are good quality KT88s available from JJ. |
Dealers were notified last week. Most companies fail because of sales. How many units do you think they were selling? The high end market as we know it is almost completely gone. Counterpoint sold 10,000 units and failed. Look at the prices of some equipment compared to upgrading those units. Much better to upgrade then to buy new. That's why we do repairs and upgrades and modifications. The values may drop but the units can be repaired. Another company may buy them but there is no guarantee they will continue on especially with passion. |
Say what? Based on reports from the shows, it seems that "high-end" is carrying much of the load. And that would be consistent with broader economy, in which the middle-class is being killed (yet again), while the rich continue benefit from inflated assets. |
I think it was a proper swan song for Trent...who was likely undercapitalized. ARC as a company and brand will come out the other side a healthy and viable business.
I'm not sure your post indicates much knowledge or experience with buying and selling companies. You seem to be quite knowledgable and seem to have the perfect parts upgrade recommendation for virtually every piece of gear that gets mentioned on this forum. Mr. Johnson had his ups and downs with quality and working capital through the years and the quality of today's ARC gear far surpasses much of what is being currently built in the market.
The "high end is almost completely gone as we know it" may be a dead giveaway that you may not have a great deal of in depth knowledge or data on this topic. I speak to a number of top dealers frequently and while they will all agree that things have slowed down a bit from 2021, there are still many manufacturers for whom demand remains brisk and backlogs are still measured in 3-9 months to et something ordered today. Thats still quite healthy.
Well then, it must be true! "Tanking"? whatever....
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@ghasley we manufacture audio components so we are pretty much in tune to what goes on in the industry. Know many reviewers, many distributers, companies, etc. And yes we can fix repair upgrade built anything audio. So we offer our assistance to everyone and have our listening room in northern NJ open to everyone. We are not dealers |
As we know from Dutch tulips to the U.S. stock market to bank runs, consumer expectation tends to outrun economic reality. I'm hearing signs of "two channel audio paradigm" panic. In this environment, how sensible is it to hoard one's pennies for that esoteric component whose mfr may go broke in six months; which one's heirs won't want; and which and one's executor will find no market to sell in? I mean limited-budget hobbyists like myself, not the gazillionaires whose $1.5M systems represent only pocket change and who inhabit a global oligarch economy immune from the policies or economies of nations. |
My comment about 2-chanel sales being way down was from a source that sells Sonus Faber, McIntosh and other high-end equipment. He had nothing to gain from telling me what he is hearing in dealer meetings and experiencing even in the "white-hot" home real estate market in DFW. While there may be a backlog of orders, they’re not getting replaced with new ones. Why else would Audio Advice recently run a sale on Anthem 8k AVMs and AVRs (yes I know, it’s not the same level as AR) that were really hard to find a year ago? We can thank our "overlords" for pumping all that cheap $ into the economy that is now much more restricted. Yes it was hearsay, but it is from a reliable source. |
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Very sad. I’d like to think there’s enough brand equity built up in ARC that someone reputable could see value in simply providing better management. But, it really all comes down to who buys them. There are several success stories where an acquirer didn’t mess up the “secret sauce” of a company and it successfully goes on, but there are others — Thiel comes to mind — where it was completely mishandled and a miserable failure. In this case I sincerely hope this follows the former as it would be a big loss for the audio community at large to lose a company, and its products, of this stature. |
ARC is an iconic American brand. My biggest fear is that someone might buy it and only focus on capitalizing the brand name at the expense of everything else that was responsible for giving ARC near-legendary status. I won't be surprised if most of production is moved overseas with only final assembly taking place in the U.S. so they can continue to milk the US heritage. Many iconic brands of yesteryears have faced similar fate. |
@ronboco @soix Private Equity doesn't give a f****** s*** about Brand Equity -- preserving it, that is. They will fake a savior pose, as they always do, while draining everything for asset value. What wealthy, generous, public-spirited, devoted audiophile with management skill is gonna outbid the bloodsuckers? I always felt that ARC was the industry flagship, and if That One ever went belly-up, it would mean game over. Please, Athena, prove me wrong and transform the Erinyes.
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@hickamore You can’t generalize like that. There have been several excellent brands that have been rescued and continue to innovate and produce quality products. Like I said before, it all depends on who buys them. |
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That is very sad news. Second piece of sad new I received today ( a dear friend passed away a day after back surgery). I believe that Audio Research could have revived their brand, by appealing to the average income audiophile. Those that can afford a whole system around Audio Research’s latest product line are not many. That choice inevitably means running into very stiff competition from brands that are dominant. It would have been interesting to see Audio Research design products for the market to compete with more affordable brands. |
@4afsanakhan I have been led to believe that sales wasn’t the problem, it was top end overhead and debt service. Oh, and there isnt a viable business model building gear in America for the market segment you described above. The dealer network, the loyal dealer network, isn’t built to sell affordable to the masses boxes. It isn’t worth the trouble and doesn’t align with the brand equity. |
@4afsanakhan I think that’s what they were trying to do with the new 50 series. |
@ghasley, if you will pardon my saying so, sales is always the problem. One would have to think that the requisite number of sales to service the debt, then generate a working profit, was not attained, likely over a period of years. The challenge for ‘high-end’ companies is finding enough wealthy customers with sufficient disposable income to support the increasingly stratospheric pricing structure. Audio Research must have had difficulty in appealing to enough of these customers. Let us qualify affordable. I did not intend to say generic lower end hifi, but more upper tier that is still affordable by ‘the masses’ as you put it. Let’s take another example, Devialet. Their Expert Pro 220 offers a decent enough streamer compatible with Qobuz, Apple Music, Spotify etc., a terrific DAC, a superb amp / preamp, and to crown it off, a truely superb phono stage. All this for 10k. Are there better, yes. Are they 20k 30k 40k and more better, decidedly not. Iconic brands such as Audio Research, McIntosh, Conrad Johnson, and Mark Levinson are experiencing stiff competition from European and Asian brands. The question is how many can hang on if the uber high-end market shrinks further? |