What to do with my legacy CD collection?


I am about to dive head first into Hi-Res Digital Audio streaming.  My current situation is complex, though.

I have 6,000 cds in my collection.  I am beginning a project to rip my favorites ~ 2,000 cds, which are mostly special editions, rare and collectible, to FLAC files and play them on my Innuos Zenith mk3 server and Qutest Dac using an ipad and Innuos Sense app as my UI.  

The whole rig will be backed up to a  2 drive Synology Nas using RAID 1 plus an icloud back-up.  

I will keep these as many are Mofi Gold, DCC gold, SACDs, DVD-Audio Disks in 5.1 surround, HDCD encoded, etc., to occaisionally play them on my Oppo 105 universal player where they sound marvelous.

That leaves me with 4,000 CDs leftover.  Most of them can be Hi-Res streamed via Quobuz or Tidal, both of which are native to my Innuos server.

Some of these are in original jewel cases (about 1,500) that I will sort through and keep, sell (haha), donate or toss.  

The remaing 2,500 are in binders without artwork.  I really don't know what to do with this group: keep as back-ups or toss.  Any suggestions?

I would appreciate any opinions or feedback on my plan, so far.

TIA!

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Or just get a Qobuz subscription, it’s all organized and and annotated for $12.99 / month. Millions of albums, half million high resolution. Save a lot of time and money.

@ghibliss 

wow, what a project!  I really like your approach.  Much better than painstakingly ripping disc by disc. 
 

At the moment, I am overwhelmed and don't know where to start.  I just looked up the cost of the Ripstation and that's way out of my league.  However, as you suggested, I am interested in having a conversation about having my collection ripped.  Let me know what you are thinking and we'll go from there.

Thank you for your post and have a Happy Easter (if you celebrate it that is).

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I have approximately 30K Redbook CD's ripped as FLAC files using dbpoweramp saved to hard drive. And 5K SACD files saved as either DSF or FLAC also have ISO files which I typically convert to DSF.

All files include high res covert art in the folder and have been checked using Tagscanner to correct any issues with metadata,missing coverart, track numbering. issues.

I have an MF Digital Ripstation with dbpoweramp installed and can rip 70+ CD per hour using 6 CDROM drives simultaneously.  If you want to save your sanity and not rip a large collection manually which could take an eternity and never have the consistency when the project is completed that mine would provide contact me to talk about having the collection ripped.

Having a large collection which most people comment that you can never listen to all of that music is mostly correct. The point isn't that you will listen to all of the music it is akin to walking into the library and asking for a book on a subject and they say we only have this one.  With an extensive library you have choices and if you have a nice collection you can find something that you like and it is fun to explore listening to lots of titles that you have never heard before.

There are many artists which I have in excess of fifty titles ie Neil Young, The Grateful Dead.  Miles Davis I have close to 100 titles!  I will never listen to all of the music however it is easier to listen to if you have it! 

drlou77

 

Let me know if/when you start to Sell off your CD collections.

 

Happy Listening!

Decluttr.com

I sold mine there when I switched to streaming. Bits are bits. There's no reason to keep them.

I started buying those Sony Mega storage units. Mostly the 200 and 300 disc ones.

I use the optical output into a quality DAC via splitters. It is fun to have people over to my house when they discover these "juke box" players. They are amazed.

The primary reason I enjoy these machines is each disc is readily available. No digging thru piles of jewel cases and the resultant mess.

I almost made the mistake years ago of ditching the discs like so many other people did when this "amazing" mp3 format came out. So glad I didn't.  Now, like 35 years and 3,000 discs later, I realize they are a real piece of my personal history. Oddly, I can actually remember the time I bought each disc! A lot of the music is truly awful but it was a "thing" at that moment in time.

I stream via Qobuz and love it but from time to time, I still buy a CD. Often times to support a new or unrecognized artist. I toss the jewel cases once the disc has been entered into one of my machines, never to be touched again. 

Personally, I do not see the reason to rip my CDs. Qobuz and all the other services have done it for me. What a lot of unnecessary work. 

All formats can coexist in one house. 

Since you are just starting to rip your collection, you should listen to the same files in FLAC and WAV downloads. Completely to my surprise, I could hear a difference. It might be the DAC I'm using (Bel Canto 2.8) or my imagination, but I preferred the WAV copy. I only have about 300 CD's but storage is so cheap these days WAV was the way to go for me.

Jim S.

If you're in the SF Bay Area, you could contact the San Francisco Audiophile Foundation.  I don't know if they're actively soliciting donations, but they are a 501c3 organization, so it would be deductible.  I haven't been to a meeting in a while, but they always had boxes of donated CDs & LPs for sale.  I don't recall any w/o the original packaging, though.  They may also accept equipment.

At least you'd know that the first people to get a crack at them would be card-carrying audiophiles!

Also, with respect to the public library, I think they need special licensing from the publishers, and can't use items that were privately purchased.  However, there may be an affiliated "friends of the library"  group that can accept donations and holds periodic sales locally.

To all, 

my motivation is primarily one of convenience for redbook CDs that are readily available on Tidal or Qobuz.  If I want to listen to Sacds, Dvd audio, Mfsl, and DCC gold disks, I will use my Modwright Oppo 105.

I also have 4,000 plus LPs after purging all the ones I wasn't going to listen to again (opera, comedy etc.)  And three turntables to spin them on.

I agree with some others here.
What is the need to switch from one digital format to another? I don’t get it.

- Are you moving into a much small home?
- You want the convenience of switching content with a remote, without getting out of your chair?

I would stay the course.
Full disclosure: I’ve got 6,000 LPs, I’ll be purging about 600, but remain committed to the format.
ML

I am in the process of re-ripping my CD collection to FLAC. When I first ripped my collection in the early 00's it was for portability and file size management purposes which mean low quality MP3, M4A, AACs and my CD player had died so I transitioned to streaming. Never got rid of the CDs though. This past year I bought a new CD transport and DAC and started critically and purposely listening to my CDs again and had forgotten, truly, how good they sound.  I'm re-ripping to FLAC as a backup but also for convenience. I'm still buying select CDs by my favorite artists because that's the primary format I have that artist in and some of them never had vinyl releases. 

As a result of re-ripping, I'm culling the herd and will donate what I don't want to a local library/school/charity and keep only the most important CDs to me - special editions, box sets, rarities, & sentimental value. I have the urge to purge some of the detritus of my collective life but also want to pass on these interests to my children. So that's the only reason I still cling to some of these things. Much to my wife's consternation. 

Timely question. I have something like 4500 CDs that I ripped to FLAC. They are stored under the stairs in boxes and I have backups of the 1 TB or so of digital information so I should also consider donating them!

Drlou77, what kind of music are you talking about? With all the music lovers on this site alone I’m sure you could drum up some interest. If you check Ebay you could probably find out what CD’s without jewel cases and artwork might be worth.

Someone would be happy to have them at that or any reasonable cost if they are the type of music they enjoy. I’m not that person, as I like my CD’s in their slipcases with the original art. But I’m pretty fussy and stupid about this, where many others who like to have physical media are not, and would probably love to own and listen to the music you’re wanting to move along. Especially if they love your favorite genres of music and may not be financially fortunate to afford being a fussbudget. In my twenties I’d have killed (not literally) to get hold of any of your collection.

Mike

"Try and see if your local library wants them."

I don't know where you are, but my local library is going the other direction. They are rapidly thinning the collection because CDs don't get taken out much any more.

Like RichTruss I FLACed them to my NAS and ditched the jewel cases for those lined envelope things. They take up a lot less space than 3000 jewel cases! Having said that, since I kept out the SACDs to play anyway, I have started putting some favorite Redbooks back into jewel cases.

<Insert forehead slap here>

As with record albums I just like the physical aspect of going through the collection to pick something out.

 

+1wsrrsw,

Donate over 2,3,4 years and take the max tax deduction each year. 

1. See if any local college radio stations want them. Donate and take a tax deduction. We have a couple who play jazz.

2. Ck local used CD & Lp shops . They buy.

3. Last resort sell on Craigs List, eBay etc.

Don't expect much money. Just shlepping them around is a big pain.

I went through this a couple of years ago.  Put them on Craigslist,  I had people wanting to see them. People would come to by my collection then they would low ball me or not show up then the worst of them would go through them a say could I buy x amount.  My opinion make someone happy give them away.

@drlou77  I’m in the same boat. I ripped all my cds and sacds of to my NAS and now I have them just sitting in my case. I recently got on Quobuz but still have bought new cds and downloaded new music. At this point Quobuz is so good I’m not sure why I’d do that anymore. What a conundrum. So, I’m just as interested in what to do with all my cds and sacs as well. I’m glad you brought this up! I guess we’re evolving.  

I bought some transparent plastic wallets just wide enough to fit the CD back artwork, the little booklet and the CD in, then threw away the jewel cases. Much reduced mass. Then popped them all in big cardboard boxes and stored them.

I really like the Zenith also. I think it took 1 miute to plug in .Another minute to download app. Connected right up and I was good to go. Ran it through a good DAC and i can almost forget vinyl. will try a fuse for my next upgrade. 

I will purchase your Cds not SACD's for 50 cents each.  I am a seller and buyer.  So if interested in selling them by all means contact me.  Thank you.

Pre-Covid, I had two bookcases full of CDs in the garage, buried behind everything else.  I rarely listened to them.  Ripped them all to the hard drive of a dedicated laptop that streams to my stereo.  Now I listen to them all the time.  I just hit shuffle and go..."I don't remember this."  I use Roon to organize them.  

When I took them to local used CD stores, they bought (credit to buy more) maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of them.  The rest I gave to a friend.  Probably still in the back of his truck.   

So how do you like the Zenith?  Any tips for me before I fire it up?

I know this question was asked to a different poster, but allow me ...

I owned the Zenith MK3 up until very recently. For the money, I think this is one of the best streamers out there with great sound quality and features. Once you get around to it, try swapping the fuse with Synergistic Research Purple Quantum fuse. I was not a believer in fuses but boy did this fuse rock my world. I usually am not a fan of hyperbole when it comes to describing tweaks but this is one time when I make an exception to say that the increase in SQ was jaw dropping! The purple fuse is $200 with a 30-day return policy and fairly easy to swap.

@horchai - Fantastic suggestion. I’m with you. Be an early Santa and find an organization that could provide them to others who might appreciate them. Lots of great charities out there. 

Ripped cds surpassed the Sq you get from a world class cd player over 15 years ago. I sold my multi-thousand $$ highly rated cd player 14 years ago and never looked back. I have been transporting thousands of cds around with me for over 20 years and I wished I sold all of them years ago. I still have a highly rated cd/sacd player that has played maybe a couple of silver discs during the last 10 years

 

It won't be worth your while to try to sell them.  If you have friends or neighbors who would like them and it would make you feel good to give them away, do that.  Otherwise, donate them to your nearby thrift stores (and get receipts).  The purchasers will enjoy the CD's, and the charities will enjoy the sales revenue, and you will enjoy the charitable deduction. 

Never get rid of hard copies, that's just me. I don't stream much so can't relate. Much easier just to toss a cd, tape or record on...all these hoops to jump thru just for convenience is not me, and probably will never be. I like my physical media.

Just went through this. Gave some to my friends. Sold some for an average of $1 each. Just purchased a Innuous Zenith with 2 tb hard drive. Ripped them all and backed up on 2 different hardrives. Have about 300 stored in Zenith and have 90 percent capacity left. Running through a Lab12 Referenc Dac. Did an A/B test tonight with my turntable. I am thinking the vinyl may go next.

Easy answer - donate them & ship them to me.  I will sort through them for you!  LOL

Keep them if you rip them. Only sell those that you haven't ripped. If you do otherwise Lars from Metallica will be mad.

@drlou77 

I think that my suggestion was a bit obscure and definitely costly.  You haven’t posted your system under your profile, so this post might be unnecessary.  I’m suggesting that you use a very high quality streamer like an Aurender N-20 and better.  Also, a quality DAC.  This is what probably makes your streaming as good, or better than your player.  I can’t directly make this claim because my goal was to raise my streaming and CDs to the same level as my analog.  Early on, I decided that it was no longer necessary to spend $4-6K on a Cd transport.

Keep all the special CDs that aren’t available to stream and donate the rest to a worthy cause, charity, library, etc.  I’d try to pick one that would get you a tax deduction so you at least get something for them.  If you buy CD cases in bulk you might be able to get all those naked CDs in cases for very little cost and may make them more desirable to the place you choose to donate and will protect them for the next user.   Just a thought, and best of luck.

@drlou77 
Why not make sure that SQ is the same, or better with ripped and streamed music? This and your raid + cloud backup should make physical media redundant, except for SACD albums that aren’t available as high resolution files.

@dayglow I understand your point of view.  My objective is primarily motivated out of convenience for the 2,500 CDs you refer to above.  I fully expect to continue to use my Modwright Oppo 105 when SQ matters, such as SACDs, Dvd-Audio, HDCD encoded discs, SBM discs, Mofi, DCC, etc,

That is where my head is that at this point.

 

I don’t understand why some have this obsession with the elimination of physical recordings? Has your taste in music turned 180 degrees? Do you believe FLAC files and streaming has better SQ then a world class CD player/Transport/DAC? Media pressure telling you CD’s are outdated? Or is this just an emotional cleansing issue? How much space can 2500 CD’s in binders take? Upgrade your Oppo 105, problem solved.

I have given away half of my 2,000. The others are acting as wall treatments.