Thirty Days in the Hole


Is that where MillerCarbon is? Can we expect to see him on the 9th?

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@tsushima1

Duplicitous? I was just researching and buying equipment. Townshend products stand on their own merits. I've owned Townshend Seismic Sinks for 12+ years so I know about Townshend. And my dealer at the time swears by Townshend. 

Whether or not MC was on Townshend’s payroll or was going to be a dealer rep or whatever, shouldn’t any person considering upgrading any part of their system do due diligence and research? I know that I did. Maybe MC aligned with Townshend in good part that he believes in Townshend products. I don’t think money was MC’s driving factor but I can’t get into his head.

And I am very comfortable in saying that I believe that every Townshend product sold is a great piece of gear.

I think your time might be better spent researching Townshend products yourself. I wouldn’t be surprised if you had a (small?)change of heart.

@pesky_wabbit 

there are some people here that really know their sh**, from the fundamentals to the finer points of design, and are able to provide expert advice without tooting their own horn too much.

Great comment. This has become very evident to me. I listen to them before anyone else. The “self-tooters” tend to stink up the conversations. 

I wish him well and do not miss him.

Time to move on from this bs…..

 

I do miss him on the forum. I’m a newbie and have been zinged by him but I still appreciate his knowledge and enjoy his humor. As far as the shilling goes it seems a lot of his recommendations are listen and see for yourself not buy this now it’s the best. He leaves it up to us to decide if it’s worth it. 
 

happy listening !

 

Ron 

+1 @whart and @jji666

 

@femoore12

If you’re not already doing so … the archives is the place to be during the momentarily monotonous moments ;-) Hmm, keep an eye out for a PM in the very near future.

 

 

 

@larsman 

+! - Blonde and the Humble Pie version!  Not that the 'Mule' cover isn't great, but...

I’ve been the ultimate arbiter of tenure and academic appts. at several elite universities. My experience is that it’s rare that an individual’s instructional style is uniformly endorsed. That’s good, since we’re accommodate information differently! It’s only when the word to fact ratio becomes excessive that I furrow a brow. 

It's funny because I have noticed that the discussion have be come smaller until This One.....Now that's pretty interesting...He will return with his guns cocked an ready to Fire....lol

MC being banned is the only thing that brought me back (temporarily). As soon as he’s unbanned I’m outta here. 
 

Guys a cancer. 

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Nurse Ratched, @jjss49 is getting over excited again, please bring him a new set of speakers or amplifier to calm him down.

Whew, emergency avoided.

@jjss49

How naive of you … Some of us here are not prepared to stick our fingers in our ears and go La La La ! Its not happening

Some of us know a good deal more that you about what is going on in the shadows

around here so save me your moralistic judgments.

Your own words In responce to a revelation to you

The straw for me was when MC mentioned coaching a colleague on what gear to buy then charging a 500.00 fee for his effort.

” is that really true @ozzy62?

wow, if so, truly deplorable in my view... this is supposed to be a community of hobbyists first and foremost”

Perhaps a little reflection.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

 

@roadwhorerecords - been a long time since I heard the song (didn't watch the vid above) - but wasn't it RED Lebanese that was in the lyrics, along with Black Nepalese and Newcastle Brown? Please correct me if I'm mistaken! 

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@styleman 

"...there were (are) other posters who were (are) fragrantly guilty of ad hominem atttacks
 

Fragrantly, eh? You sure that word is, um, on the nose?

I feel no need to @.... anyone and spotlight immaturity in this thread because you have all done so very well on your own

I have communicated with MC many times 1:1 and have never felt anything other than a passionate collegial audiophile that truly hopes everyone can find their audio nirvana.  He voices the love for what is working for him...why shouldn't he?!?!  Maybe he's better off without us.  

 

What I am about to write is not meant to sound negative.  For the handful of persons who had no problem with einstein's rudeness, it is my sincerest recommendation that you locate whatever audio website where he is now and follow him there.  Problem solved, win, win.

@fastninja12

And you Know This how ?

Chucky had his posting privileges revoked For a second time for constant and blatant rule infractions, Homophobic posts , attempting to subvert the moderation of the forum etc etc etc …and for being more trouble than he was worth … from your posting history You are obviously a Fan Boy , thats your prerogative , however your attempt to tar those that have chosen to speak out as harbouring ego’s is pathetic.

 

 

 

 

Who would have thought digital blinders would be a thing?

Some traditions have a way of adapting to changing times.

All the best,
Nonoise

For those of you wondering about MC charging for his "expertise". Here is the post from 2019.

 

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Being in a remote area and patient my advice is order yourself a copy of Robert Harley’s Complete Guide to High-End Audio https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-High-End-Audio/dp/0978649362 That’s what I did, and it not only saved me a lot of time and money, but helped me become a much better listener and better able to evaluate components. Its well worth the time and money just for what you will learn about listening.

And budgeting. You really need to learn about budgeting! Everyone, but everyone, gets it all wrong. Except Harley. Who by the way, was one of the all-time great reviewers for Stereophile many years ago.

Let me give you an example about how budgeting works. Actual example. Friend at work wants to buy her husband a really nice present, whole stereo, $2500 budget. Wants me to do everything. (Good call.)

So with that I budget out more or less as follows:
20% speakers $400
20% integrated $400
20% CD $400
20% speaker cables & interconnect $400
20% power cords & Cones $400

If you notice those numbers don’t add up to $2500 that’s because I take $500 right off the top for my time and expertise.

Almost the weekend...music time. Brahms versus Radiohead ... Saturday Night fights.

 

Meanwhile...

 

I have to say that MC does have a wealth of knowledge and could be a great help to many of our readers that are relatively new to this "hobby".

The problem is that his knowledge is not provided free of charge. If a question is beneath his level, it and the OP are treated with distain and regardless of the topic everything comes with a healthy dose of arrogance and self-aggrandizing.

That being said. It makes no difference to me whether his is here or gone.

 

 

@jetter 

+ 1 … The web is littered with forums generated from the dysfunctional egos the size of planets who finally realised that the only way to gain true control was to create their own little audio fiefdom… why MC hasn’t followed in the steps of Rommy ,  Amir , etc etc is a mystery

@tsushima1

your persona is one of the most unpleasant on this site

as i have scanned your posts, few have been to do anything other than to spew negativity, to put others down, to criticize, to make yourself appear above it all, i see no other meaningful contribution, so i ask, what is in it for you to be here?  

i don’t mistake morality with being judgemental, nor naivete... i simply believe a society, a community is as good as we individuals choose make it, we each carry an obligation, you are obviously oblivious or don’t care... your bullshit is among the worst i have read

so i just call bullshit on this bullshitter - here are your recent posts, all of em...

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@jetter + 1 … The web is littered with forums generated from the dysfunctional egos the size of planets who finally realised that the only way to gain true control was to create their own little audio fiefdom… why MC hasn’t followed in the steps...
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@fastninja12 And you Know This how ? Chucky had his posting privileges revoked For a second time for constant and blatant rule infractions, Homophobic posts , attempting to subvert the moderation of the forum etc etc etc …and for being more tro...
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@jjss49 How naive of you … Some of us here are not prepared to stick our fingers in our ears and go La La La ! Its not happening Some of us know a good deal more that you about what is going on in the shadows around here so save me your morali...
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@vinylshadow ” Yes, he did. I know all about his connection to Townshend. And I bought directly from Townshend. Don’t you feel silly now? “ Not in the slightest, the fact that one individual knew that he was shilling for Townsend does not disco...
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“ MC has been a sort of consigliere for me. Let me tell you what I bought with MC’s advice and recommendations: A lot/most of Townshend Audio Seismics and cables. And their preamp.“ Shilling mission accomplished then ! Did he mention to you th...
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I suspect that the Puppet Master pulled the strings on a number of his familiars in order to have posts that showed him up for what he is , reported, with the aim of having them removed
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Lest we forget his insidious undercurrent of Homophobia with his several posting of short youtube clips strongly featuring the dialogue “ Are you a Gayer “ “ Are you a Fag” All now flushed down the toilet where they belong
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“ MC is/was a source of considerable Knowledge “ Really ! How much of this “ considerable knowledge “ was genuinely new ground and not merely common knowledge to most experienced HiFi guys here. Plagiarism delivered with a Superior air of having...
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Thank you for knocking the scab off a healing wound OP 🙄 As the saying goes “ Even From Beyond The Grave “ this Toxic individual engenders Fractious Disharmony upon this forum … Good Riddance
About users with hidden agendas
@cleeds Do you really sweep all objective thinking members here into your facile little box with “ They pretend to know how things sound without ever actually listening to them” Are you seriously suggesting that these folk don’t actually listen...
About users with hidden agendas
Go Thumper … Go 😎
About users with hidden agendas
Teddy number 3 … have you suffered a recent brain injury or blunt object trauma! You are doing yourself and by reflection the Products that you peddle no favours whatsoever
About users with hidden agendas
I wish there was a button to Delete Teddy Number 3 entirely !
High Fidelity Cable replaces NPS 1260
Really !!! “ NPS Q45T produces the greatest listening experience that I have heard in my system in 50 years of continual upgrades." 🤣

Why People Like Tekton
^^^^^^^^^^ Quite ^^^^^^^^^^

 

About users with hidden agendas
It is a pity that within the software settings an OP has the ability to nuke a thread , a number have been that contained valuable and informative contributions from members … At the very most an OP should have to contact the moderators and with a...
About users with hidden agendas
Awwwww Bless
About users with hidden agendas
Awwww Teddy … Bless And how does the current situation of a commentator’s system correlate to their knowledge or experience of High Fidelity electronics and equipment … Only a tediously shallow individual would attempt to draw such a conclusio...
Why People Like Tekton
Explains the smeary timing and disconnect as a whole of the Tekton midrange
About users with hidden agendas
“ wrt MC and Townshend, one wonders whether a major factor determining his appointment to that position was his capacity to act as an online ‘influencer’ ?“ I have no doubt of that , along with the considerable amount of time and effort expended ...
Affordable vs. ultra expensive speakers - what’s the difference?
Not everything in life can be measured or ranked in purely monetary terms. Pride in ownership and the daily pleasure that an object may bring one applies to Audio equipment as much as it does to anything else, and as such cannot be measured by an...
About users with hidden agendas
As the saying goes “ Even From Beyond The Grave “ this Toxic individual engenders Fractious Disharmony upon this forum … Good Riddance
About users with hidden agendas
@sokogear And what makes you think that he will be allowed back ! Good riddance
About users with hidden agendas
“ MC stated in a previous post before he was asked to take a break from the ’Gon that he works for Townshend. “ A somewhat mealy mouthed way of conveying that MC actually had his posting privileges revoked for constant rule infractions , attempti...
About users with hidden agendas
@jerryg123 Indeed , I wonder how just many members, who have witnessed his online persona and posting style here . have been entirely put off from purchasing anything that he pedals … Que the “I get enough orders anyway” weenering responce
Recommendations on small ESL speakers for tiny room
OP … I would go with the smaller sized ML’s however If you are up for a little vintage serviced Quad ESL 57’s or 63’s can be a delight in a smaller room
Would appreciate a group consensus on Agon purchased amps
Ermmmm , A trifle Petty ?
What makes the biggest difference in sound quality?
Snake Oil salesman questions the Bona Fides of knowledgable forum member 🤣

$500? Not bad! Let’s all do that! Make us work harder. So what if we bug others to death along the way? We are worth it! Who needs a bunch of free loaders anyhoo. I may just start Mapman U. for a small fee you can hear all the things I know you should...  Really good friends.....10% discount.

Just so long as georgehifi is gone with his dismissive, rude and obnoxious posts. Many times I was interested in findings on different fuses, then george would take over the thread, screaming snake-oil and slinging insults. Good riddance and hope it's permanent.

FYI - MC did say in a post that he was part of the Townshend family shortly after Max (RIP) passed away and mentioned it again in an email he sent me. 

In the past, he helped me with advice (no charge) with a few things I did to improve my stereo and I was curious why he wasn't posting. I asked him what is up and here is what he emailed me:

 

"Lots of good people like you have PM’d me but being suspended I can only reply to people like you who email directly and off-line. I’m not really trying to get anything going but when people ask I will tell them the truth.

I do get messages, several every week, and being suspended hasn’t changed it much. If everyone who supports me and values my posts was as vocal as the haters this would all be over real fast. Can’t see how it takes a whole lot of courage to say, “This ain’t right” but apparently more than most can muster. Sad.

So anyway yes I have been working with Townshend, although it is hard to explain exactly what I do. They sell direct, no retail, and when there are shows I will go but those are pretty well shut down these days. So I am helping with their website and this and that. Frankly it is pretty much what I’ve been doing, explaining to people all the little things that help. 

I recently developed a new cable isolation system, and boy does it work great! My good friend (NAME DELETED) was the first to try it out and said he was amazed at the detail that had been smeared and now is clean and clear. This guy has a $1M+ system with Magico Q7 so might not be quite the same with everyone but it sure works for us.
That is just one of many articles you can look forward to when they lift my suspension. Whenever that is. Almost don’t even care. Supposedly a month.   Anyway I will be back and when I am they can goad all they want only the serious will be recognized and it will be as if they don’t even exist".

He said some other stuff about his system and some reviews he'll be doing and told me to feel free to give out his contact info if anyone is interested.

I really don’t care who is here.  It's just a website that I happen to like more than most.  People included.   In this case everyone is well rested now and better prepared to rumble. Does it ever end? Let the cards unfurl.

 

Forgot to mention - he said his suspension is supposed to be for 30 days, but it didn't sound like that is etched in stone.

Folks, we are in the middle of a pandemic. Covid-19 is putting people in the hospital for months (long Covid) and even killing others (over 800,000 in the USA). When we don’t hear from someone, maybe we should say a prayer for them instead of speculating. I hope everyone stay safe until we can put this situation behind us for good.  May God have mercy on our souls. 

@sokogear

Knowing the history, I suspect he must have clearly crossed some line recently to get suspended. Maybe trashing other audiogon vendors publicly? That was the last thing I recall. WHo knows. Doesn’t sound like he has learned anything though and blames everyone else. Nothing new.  

Enough time talking about this. It will be what it will be. We will all be fine. Just don’t ever feel obligated to ignore bad behavior. That’s how the dark side wins. We can all do better. Cheers!

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jjss49 +1 great idea. It's far to easy to point out the sins of others than to clean up and improve ourselves. Example after example right here on this thread. 

Some try to lead, some have to follow and there are quite a few here on AG that do neither. 

AG has a LOT of watching members that post only so often. I find it nice to see all the members come out to play as of late. My only recommendation is to NOT be intimidated by anyone. I'm sure not.

A respectful approach by ME is all I offer. The rest is up to the individual. When I started posting under oldhvymec 10 years after diepiolet, MC was posting. I had just retired and was blown away by the 6-10 people that filled the threads. 

Normally I just return the unwanted portion of the message about ME I don't care for.. Unfortunately sometimes I give back in greater measure than the portion I chose to return. After all I'm only a human, or am I? :-)🛸

Hey look when someone starts a thread specifically about another member.....

 

My suggestion: don't do it.   We are here to discuss hifis not other people.  If you ask for it, it will probably happen.

This thread really should have been zapped from the git go......but I hope it isn’t.

Isn’t it Howdy Doody time, YET?

If we keep it civil we should be fine. 

There is a crew change for the weekend. 

Admin seems to change a bit on the weekends and there was that double thread thing for a while too.

Regards

@mapman 

This thread really should have been zapped from the git go......but I hope it isn’t.

One can only suppose that the moderators are in agreement with the majority view that a gone einstein is a good einstein.

Again @oldhvymec , sorry we disagree on this subject.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@jetter you can be sure they will do what ever is deemed best for the site. Gotta protect your house! I’d say sales good, bad karma...well, bad!

All I know is I'm no party pooper.

Hat on the floor it's FRIDAY (I think). AS I slowly walk around the hat to the beat of the smokin' salsa music and my faithful dog follows me. THEN I STOP. I stomp my foot, TWICE and slowly back around the hat to the beat of the music. 

The dog drops the yellow tennis ball after a "Squeak Squeak" 

Olay, amigo.

I'm pretty sure you're correct on the lyrics, but when you mentioned "Black Nepalese", I had a flashback of the good 'ol days of "Blond Lebanese" and "Honey Oil" 🤪

Back to the Belly dance competition.

Hubba Hubba!!

jetter we’re always good, less a couple folk on this site. I understand everyone is different. 7.9 billion different ideas.. Bound to be a little difference.. LOL

I don’t mind different ideas but the constant analyzing and scrutinizing of other with absolutely no contribution to the thread other than that..

I’ll take 50 MC at a time over that.. The crappy part is they have a lot to offer but choose to be a PITA on a thread when others are trying to dig something out of it..

I think that is even more discouraging to others than some of MCs rants. I could give a crap either way. I’m pretty outspoken.

I never met a person I didn’t like. Just the stuff they do and say, my LORD!

Pass me that joint. LOL

Happy Happy..

Listening to John Lee and Carlos "The Healer" Serious stuff!!

Regards

 

@jjss49

Awww bless … You must be mentally exhausted after all that research.

And I stand by every single post that I have contributed to this forum with regard to you Cult Leader … If your cut n paste post was meant to Shock and Awe me I genuinely burst out laughing … Seriously, Thank you for condensing them into a easy reference for other members to access.

Now , here’s a real challenge for you… How about taking a wee stab at refuting the validity of the content that I have posted …

 

 

 

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Mr tsushima1

With great respect, take a hint, you sound like the person you seem to despise. I personally don’t see what you see in MC that affect YOU so much. BUT I’m not looking that hard.

I’m a person that doesn’t care to called ______ BOY. OR Boy anything!
I’ll ask politely that you stop that ay. No Moms, No BOYs.

Booger eatin’ spaz is allowed though. :-)

Lighten UP and be a nicer person, it’s really not that hard.. AS I kiss my 18" arms at 67 years old and explode a hot water bottle with a FART!! The trick is the seal. :-)

Regards

 

Personally I have no problem with people calling people out. Whatever turns you on! Bile begats bile. Day of the Dove? Hint:  The Doves prevail.