No TT or R2R but I do have a 911. The wife agreed that I could have it when I turned 70 a couple of years ago. She figures at that age at least I would not kill myself. For the record I have worn a Rolex for over 40 years. Nothing fancy, just a stainless Sub.
Should people with no turntable or reel to reel be considered audiophiles?
Just like those driving a Porsche SUV can join PCA (digital audio fans can join Audiogon) but are certainly not Porschephiles unless they also own a coupe (Panamera owners I guess gets a pass here).
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HI, Badges do not entitle somebody to belong in a certain society. You must know how to drive and enjoy it at the same time. I always take the longer road with my Giulietta just for the fun of it even if burning more fuel. People may have huge collection of cds, cassettes or downloads have given up turntables and r2r for their own reasons and yes have soldering irons are good at mods and understand the difference of a good power chord. They have less components, so what? They still attend at shows, read, listen, play around with what they have and can exchange ideas and experiences. Levelling audiophiles is more logical as knowledge does not come cheap. But that is still a discrimination. |
Yes. I firmly believe audiophile is a label that should only be self applied. Of course, you’re allowed to look down your nose at other people, but don’t expect to be thanked or respected for it. Lure them in with the music as they like it, and you’ll get more opportunities to convert them to whatever esoteric, crazypants, eccentric predilections you’ve a developed over the years. |
I’m a retired audio production engineer. My hearing went south years ago. I do wear decent hearing aids. That said I enjoy the music. For me that’s what it’s all about. And I still like the knobs and dials aspect of audiophile-com. A simple upgrade in a phono cartridge (2M Blue) got me listening to vinyl again. Still, it’s all about the music. |
Yes - but a Loaded question.... Age and financials play a part. Someone young today likely does not have a big vinyl collection. Older generations do and prize them. An audiophile enjoys music and makes it the best sounding experience with the best equipment they desire and can afford. It's not a status symbol, however it is for many. To each his/her own. |
Porschephiles drive 911's and Caymans. We tolerate the other stuff only because it gives Porsche the money to survive and make our cars. I wouldn't be caught dead driving a Panamera or one of the SUVs. At last a subject worthy of discussion! Porschephiles drive Porsches. Porschephiles do not drive SUVs. Porschephiles understand the difference between an SUV and a Cayenne, Cayenne Turbo S, Macan, etc. and a SUV. An SUV is an appliance. A microwave. A toaster oven. Porschephiles know a Porsche is not a car, nor is it an SUV. A Porsche is a Porsche. True Porschephiles know all this. Know it in their bones. For street cred millercarbon is the owner of a 1979 911SC, a Porsche Club of America Driving Instructor for Driver Ed, Driver Skills, and Autocross, a PCA Concours winner, Tour Leader, Colby Cup Champion and former PNW Region President. Millercarbon has attended more PCA tech sessions than he can count, and has conducted a few himself. He made top 5 in class in a region that is home to six time SCCA National Autocross Champion Greg Fordahl. When it comes to Porsches millercarbon knows whereof he speaks. Back in the day when I owned a 356A Coupe, there were those that wouldn't recognize 911 owners as true Porschephiles. And for the record, Steve McQueen wore a Rolex. Now this is more like it. When the 996 came out I went to talk with local legend Squire Tomasie. What is up with this new 996? Its fast and solid sure, but people are so upset. The headlights. The doors. And Squire said, son this is nothing. When the 911 came out the 356 guys all said it was the end. The 356 door closes like a bank vault. The 911 you have to slam. On and on. There is of course some relevance to audio. Porsche isn't about the looks or the numbers any more than audio is about the watts or the frequency response. Its about the driving experience. The listening experience. I'm telling ya, even with two rums in my I can write this. Someone needs to do something. They clearly are not paying me enough. |
Whoa, hold on here. Porschephiles 911's and Caymans. We tolerate the other stuff only because it gives Porsche the money to survive and make our cars. I wouldn't be caught dead driving a Panamera or one of the SUVs. Those are for people who buy Rolex watches. Back in the day when I owned a 356A Coupe, there were those that wouldn't recognize 911 owners as true Porschephiles. And for the record, Steve McQueen wore a Rolex. J.Chip |
limomangus65 posts06-13-2020 1:07pm Good Question, but if I was deaf could I be an audiophile? I think more so if a person lost their hearing, or is losing it.. My cousins are deaf as can be, it can be, the beat... They loved polka music. Audiophilers, NO, lovers of dancing, yes. My best friend is losing his hearing still a good composer and a heck of a string instrument player... Good board level repair person too. Scope can still tell you a lot, deaf or not... I have good hearing.. Thank God!! Whether I listen or not, that is a different question.. Regards |
Whoa, hold on here. Porschephiles drive 911's and Caymans. We tolerate the other stuff only because it gives Porsche the money to survive and make our cars. I wouldn't be caught dead driving a Panamera or one of the SUVs. Those are for people who buy Rolex watches. As for audiophiles, real ones have turntables, hundreds of records and know their way around a soldering iron. A real audiophile makes their own speakers and modifies everything to work better. A real audiophile does not waste money on BS garbage that won't make anything sound better but looks pretty. A real audiophile has more money invested in their music than their system. There are people who love music and don't care what it sounds like. There are people that only care what it sounds like and will listen to garbage music just because it was nicely recorded, but real audiophiles listen to great music and make it sound as good as possible. Real audiophiles won't let anyone touch their system not even their significant other. They just do not understand. Real audiophiles are always looking forward to what they are going to do next. Real audiophiles are never happy with how their system sounds. There is always something that could be better. Real audiophile will use any technology available to make their systems sound better. Finally, real audiophiles love to help others make their systems sound better. We wish everyone can have the best music reproduction possible. Rock and Roll. |
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YES, no gear needed, just ears, one will do. Heck I had deaf cousins. They loved to dance... I met more than one person that their hearing went south. Stone coal deaf.. Still loved "the talk", and could give a lot of good pointers. A lot were old carpenters, mill workers.. smart bunch, most made a lot of their own stuff. It's an attitude of seeking perfection where it varies from person to person, yet it does exist... CANI Continual and never-ending improvement. My 2 pennies Regards |
Dear @sokogear : Yes. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/es/diccionario/ingles/audiophile https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/audiophile There are a lot more audiophiles with out TT/R2R items that the ones that own one of either those items. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
yes. an audiophile is defined by a perspective, not owning gear, or format preference. it’s about wanting their music to sound as good as possible, and having an interest in high performance music reproduction. some of the most ’audiophile’ people I know, don’t really have much of a system themselves. but their interest in the subject is passionate. within the audiophile viewpoint, their are serious gear heads, serious room and system tweakers, and serious music collectors. and some that are all three. some audiophiles mainly collect vintage gear and listening is not huge for them. no rules. |
