Electric cars will ruin late night listening?
My system sounds best late at night. I run passive conditioners. Everyone is a sleep, no one is running stoves, microwaves, A/C is running less, the transformers are working less. 5,10,20 years from now we all have electric cars. Everyone is fast a sleep with there electric cars plugged in for there 4 to 8 hour charge every night in my neighborhood,, my city, my state. What will this do to the sonics of our system or the quality of the power coming into our homes?
Sometimes I think we spend more time listening for and obsessing about noise than we do listening to music. I live in sunny hot AZ where everyone has large power hungry HVAC units. I also have one that, in the summer, day and night, runs most of the time. I also have a house full of LED lights. Neither the large HVAC nor the LEDs seem to have any effect on the sound of my system; pretty sure that charging an electric car will not create a noise problem.....Jim |
Have solar. Have an electric car. Have to say can’t hear any difference when car plugged in be it day or night. Have to get off my large a$$ and get on my knees and be thankful for this largess.
OP if you have dirty power that’s easy enough to treat. Temperatures in Antarctica reach 70 degrees warmer than normal is a real problem and why EV’s (that are 20% plastic) are not such a torment.
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LOL Post of the month! |
Power around here is pretty reliable, although I don't know how quiet it is. I used to have a Furman power conditioner that displayed the line voltage, which was always around 117-121 vAC, except late at night when our Tesla was charging, at which point it would drop to 113 or so. No effect on sound quality to my ear. |
Just another day here in Crazytown. |
In developed countries your car will be electric and it will power your own house at times of low renewable output or high demand. Once electric cars represent 30% of sales their price will ensure that IC engined vehicles will be for enthusiasts and the very rich. How long, not more than 10 years, could be a lot less. Remember a British government study in 1920 predicted that total UK sales of cars would never exceed 4000 per annum, their reasoning, there were not enough chauffeurs to create more demand. |
nonoise,I hear that killer whale is the way to go. You know, like putting a tiger in your tank, only it's a killer whale. |
Bugsnest, I don’t think power conditioners help DC in your lines, they may but it didn’t help me. I have a Running Springs Dmitri, Hayley and PI Audio Uberbuss and tried them all when I had a mechanical transformer hum on a Conrad Johnson amp. I had to send amp in for a replacement in 30 day period. The new amp had no hum so my problem may not have been DC in my line.
If you have DC in your line you can try a Van Alstine Humdinger DC line blocker $140. That was next move if new amp still had hum. |
I assume your repair guy measured DC current in his line versus simply "feeling" he's got issues. Regardless, wouldn't a decent power conditioner resolve this very issue? I thought that's what power conditioners do - eliminate voltage spikes and remove any interference/intermittent frequencies that ride on the main signal.
I agree with music sounding different at night. Reduction of ambient noise caused by vehicles, people, pets, businesses etc. would all factor in... and the hum from appliances like fridges, microwaves, HVACs etc. are significantly reduced at night. But I don't see that change in sound quality as an attribute of better power coming into my gear at night :) |
Over here in Europe a better question is whether there will be any electricity to run hi-fi and homes once hundreds of millions of electric cars have taken it all. Here in sleepy UK we haven't completed a large new power station for more than 25 years and we have to buy electricity every year from France. Who threatened to cut off Jersey (a small British island near their coast) last year. As to noise on the public electric line, has anyone thought of using a mains powered electric generator to drive the hi-fi? No noise enters the system from the public line and no pollution/noise from a ICE generator. Think of all the money you'd save on tweak power cords/fuses/conditioners/etc. |
Electric car charging is a stable current demand. I am much more worried about LED lights, with their SMPS injecting horrendous noise. As neighborhoods are converting to unsing LEDs, the daytime listening has progressively declined, and even late night hours are often turning worse than peak times were 20 years ago. |
It was a joke in a serious way. I had to bring a amp to the house of the guy that works on my gear. He had a guy build a house next to him and they had to start to share the same transformer and said his electricity voltage started to fluctuate and felt he now had DC in his line because his tube amp started to get a mechanical hum. He mentioned when everybody in the future has there electric cars plugged in at night what will that do to our quality of power. I had never even considered that and thought it would be interesting what everyone here would say to this one. I know some don’t agree that there system sounds better at night and I understand that but at my house does sound better late into the night. You would think if cars are charging at night it would affect my power, right? |
@erik_squires But what if you have a 3 phase amplifier? |
