One box solution


Hello Everyone, 

I finally hit a wall with my health, I am almost 72 and have to downsize and move to a facility. It’s a very nice place but a lot smaller and my current set up can’t go so it’s all going in to storage. 

I am looking for a one box solution, the Naim Uniti Atom comes to mind but I am looking for better if that’s possible. My budget is 15k or less and has to have a remote, I don’t get around so good. Actually need bookshelf type speaker suggestions too…so 15k or less for speakers and 15k or less for a all in one intergrated…I will only stream so the box needs to have a Dac and everything built in, airplay,and Quboz…maybe the Uniti Atom is the best solution but was hoping for something better…thanks..

 

silverfoxvtx1800

I think a Mola Mola Kula would be a gold standard here, but list is a bit over your budget.  With an onboard Tambaqui DAC you are getting a world class DAC in a one box design.

 

I wold also look at a used Boulder 866 with DAC option installed.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisbcaa1-boulder-866-solid-state?srsltid=AfmBOooFxZrYxnaOJuu5Gcou3-zjBhmKALGEW0sUKIT4mKJaf0nTxXUb6gU

these seem to go for around 1- -11k

And as a great value, the Moon ACE all in one is highly regarded, albeit a bit low on amps:

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisbcaa1-boulder-866-solid-state?srsltid=AfmBOooFxZrYxnaOJuu5Gcou3-zjBhmKALGEW0sUKIT4mKJaf0nTxXUb6gU

https://simaudio.com/en/product/ace-all-in-one-music-player/Would be fine with efficient bookshelf speakers.

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The Lyngdorf 3400 is great sounding in terms of an integrated. It is not heavy which is also a plus for you. Also, it consumes very little power and hardly even gets warm! The room correction feature also does wonders in helping remove room challenges.  Highly recommended.

@silverfoxvtx1800 Sorry to hear about your health issues and hope that being able to continue to enjoy music in your new facility brings you happiness and comfort. We will all be there at some point. 

For speakers my recommendation would be the YG Audio Cairn or Borreson X1 with the dedicated stands..You won't need a big speaker in a small room...
 For an amp/streamer/DAC:
Hegel H400...
 I would also recommend a really good pair of headphones for listening during later hours..Look at HiFiMan from the Arya Organic & up...

 

@jc4659 thanks actually it’s a struggle going shopping and doing all the every day chores so having everything done for me probably won’t be to bad of a adjustment. 7k a month is a lot but I should be ok…after my house sells..

all the suggestions are excellent, Humm a good set of headphones also would be the way to go for late night listening…for tv and music.

 

Sorry to hear about your situation.

If I was presented with this situation I would find good high end dealer and trade in all your old system components and buy the very highest level you can. Storage at this time of life makes little sense... I'm 73. Buy buying up you will get more from your old equipment and will get a really high quality one box... would two do it? Linn Klimax + amp.

What part of the country do you live in?

lots of choices for speakers, how loud can they be?

https://speakerchoices.com/

I would go with Simaudio for the all in one

You might want good streaming headphones, with easy volume and mute, and tied into your TV so you can hear the TV without bothering others, mute temporarily for the 1,000 interruptions, back to it.

You can stream a variety of music genres thru your Smart TV’s Cable Box, some TVs have DVD/CD players built-in.

@ghdprentice 

I live in Seattle, I have Pass Labs preamp two Pass amps… I will make a few calls..that’s a good idea … I don’t need the money from them but if I could donate all the gear and help some charity that would be good..

 

+1 @grannyring I've heard great things from very discriminating folks on this forum (such as brownsfan) about Lyngdorf.

KEF ls60 does it all very well in a very compact package.

I can recommend the Cambridge Evo 150 as well which competes with the older Naim

Maybe check out a Cambridge Evo 1....a true desktop all in one. Have not heard it yet but I read only good things.

Maybe add a pair of very nice headphones!

Best wishes!

 

but if I could donate all the gear

I would suggest not to give it to Goodwill. You could sell it to e.g. Hawthorne Stereo and the donate the money to your cause. The way goodwill sells audio is not prudent to say the least....

Donating is a noble effort. I’d maybe try to find a home that will appreciate it.  Maybe there is some less fortunate music lover out there who would. It's totally up to you and what you value, not others.

Maybe there is some less fortunate music lover out there who would

me me me wink

me me me 

There you go!

I bet lots of folks around these parts who might.....

honestly there are people who would need it way more than I would. (Now, if someone could donate some brain cells....?)
I think selling it for a reasonable price and giving the money to a good cause would be the nicest way to make the best of it.

Thank goodness you're going to a nice facility. 

What about headphones?

Listen as loud as you like.

That's my plan for my future.

Focal Diva Utopia 40k $ .( maybe less if you have a nice dealer ) But ....

You save on Interconnect + Speaker’s cable + Power cords.

 

https://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/focal-diva-utopia

@grislybutter

If I was in the situation of the OP , ( I am 66 so I am getting there )only streaming , this is what I would buy.

I will leave the OP to comment about my suggestion.

The likes of Focal Diva Utopia and KEF LS60 are the futur. And they look very nice

thanks @maxwave I thought he said 15K and bookshelf that's why I wondered. I am sure they are amazing. 

@grislybutter

´´...15k or less for speakers and 15k or less for a all in one intergrated…´´

So 30K plus highend cables .

 

Bookshelf needs subwoofers.  Still $$$

Sorry to hear of your situation.   Prayers for a recovery best as possible and for you to assimilate easily into your new living situation.  My mother did well for years in independent then transitioning in assisted living.  The social interaction and activities kept her sharp to 91.

My recommendation in you more than adequate budget would be a Mola Mola Kaluga one box with Vivid S12 bookshelf speakers.  Alternatively, with the box, a Burmester 232 integrated at higher cost.  An alternative speaker, also at higher cost, is the Sonus Farber Guarneri, also at higher cost.  I have heard all combinations of the above and the will give clarity, timbral accuracy, speed, dynamics, staging, imaging, and excellent bass to about 35-40Hz so you should not miss much.  Good luck. 
 

 

I’m not ready to get rid of my big rig but I am setting up a small one box streaming only system for my bedroom (I’m 71).  I’m using a Cambridge EVO 75 that I formerly used with my tv as the streamer and amp but the star of the show are my speakers: Dali Menuet SE. I currently have this set up in my office as a near field system and I love the sound.  Check out the reviews on the Dalis — and they are beautiful and very well made. Best of luck to you. 

I live down South here in the Portland area. My dealer has instructions that if I kick the bucket before my partner to sell my system and also my record collection in one piece and give the proceeds to my partner.

@ghdprentice I don’t have anyone to give my rig too. It’s a modest system..

‘Pass Labs Preamp, Pass XA-25 amp and a First Watt Sit-4, Meitner MA3 dac

, Denafrips Venus Dac and Volti Audio speakers..

I will figure something out…

‘oh also some Klipsch speakers ..

I had a neighbor kid help me pack up stuff today and found a Naim Uniti Atom and some Opera Prima Bookshelf speakers that my ex left behind in her art studio…so going to use that until I get my footing in the new place..

@silverfoxvtx1800 So sorry to hear of this life change. My great hope is you can continue to enjoy music where you are headed. Your “ modest “ system must have sounded fantastic. I live part of the year in South Seattle - hopefully can have you visit for dinner and music.

 Hawthorne is a great idea as would be contacting Eric at Gig Harbor Audio for consignment. If you put things into storage, i and fellow music cronies from Olympia Music group can help you market the gear or get it to dealers who can including TMR and Echo in Portland. 

Finally, you might be surprised by what a NAIM atom can do, i run Apogee Centaur minor with mine… it’s not my reference system… but it’s quite good. Headphones are better left for another discussion.. Please do reach out w a PM.

Jim 

If donating remeber this, Goodwill is a for profit business, Find a local charity that would benefit from your generousity. The salary of a Goodwill CEO varies by location and role, but generally ranges from $55,000 to $743,000 per year. The Goodwill Board of Directors determines the salary of the national CEO. Just Google it. Good Luck with your next system.

@tomic601 Thanks Jim, 

I will give Eric a shout when I get settled and talk about what he can do for me with a different system.. moving is real pain lots of loose ends..

If you can do floorstanding then the Kef LS60 are a pretty perfect all in one solution.

@travelinjack yes I was definitely considering those..will have to get in there and see how much room I have…

I don't have a suggestion but I wanted to say kudos to @silverfoxvtx1800 for keeping the fire burning.  Best wishes and I hope you find something that makes you smile every day.  Cheers

@freediver 

Does the H400 have a better streamer than the H390? I have the H390 and it won’t do Qobuz as well as most of the other platforms that don’t use a “connect” software like Tidal Connect.

Get a huge box, put your amplifier in that box, put your preamplifier in that box, put your DAC in that box, put your power conditioner in that box. Now you have a one box solution.

Best of comfort in your new residence....👍😊  I've heard that your new situation can be a hotbed of other 'activities' not on any roster.... ;)

Do you wear hearing aids?  The sound qualities are much improved of late, and mine stream nicely, phone calls, etc.  

Cost can be +/- 5K$, depending upon what you'd like with them...

Sorry to hear of your situation.  But going in with a good attitude will make all the difference in the world.  And if you hadn't noticed, most retirement homes are about 70% women.  

I have a pair of Kef LS50 Wireless II speakers in my bedroom with an iPad (with Roon and Tidal) for "control."  That's it.  I use a MacBook Air in another room for the core and have ripped my CD collection to its hard drive.  In a small apartment like you will have, you could skip the iPad and just use the MacBook Air.  The keyboard on the MacBook Air would make it much easier to use.  Very simple, but sounds great. 

Aesthetix Mimas - plenty of great reviews, DAC and phono options are high sonic quality also. Has remote 

+1 Mola Mola Kula

I hope things go well as you make this transition. Wondering if something like the Dutch and Dutch 8C would work for you.
 

Consider a pair of active standmounts with a preamp/DAC. Buchardt actives (A500) and then a compact but complete preamp, the ProJect Pre Box RS2, which has a Dual DAC, headphone amp and remote and a selectable tube preamp section. You could use any streamer with it: Bluesound, Sonos, WiiM, all of which are compact.

The JBL SA750 is the full feature box: streamer, DAC, integrated amp, headphone amp, remote, 130W "class G" which is an A-AB. Standard size cabinet.

If you are going into a multiple-resident setting, having headphones and headphone amp feature is recommended.

Sorry to hear about your health.  Is there a local dealer you could work with?  Would make things a lot easier for you with all of the things you’ve dealing with.  Be well. 

You might also look at Linn's complete systems. They have a "one box" design. They have a dealer in Bellevue.

T+A Elektroakoustik has several streamer-DAC-Preamp options in its lines, which could be paired with actives.

 

If where you are going is a nursing home, and not an assisted living facility, I would not sell your home to pay the $7,000 per month.

Your home is not a countable asset to qualify for Medicaid.

You would have to spend your other assets,  but once your other assets are spent down , Medicaid will start paying the bills without the house being sold.

You may want to speak to an Elder Law Attorney about that.

If it is assisted living and not a nursing home then you can ignore my post.

Wish you the best.

Some good suggestions so far. KEF LS50 are nice and simplest option, but no headphone output.  Weiss 501 is a highly regarded streamer/DAC/pre with headphone output for about $9k - pair it with some good active monitors via XLR is another way to go. Best of luck n your new situation 

@lonejoe I am going to assisted living, it’s a nice apartment with a separate bedroom and is designed for a wheelchair which is in my future. It will be nice not to worry about cooking, cleaning, shopping and laundry…I am not counting on Medicare and Medicaid, there will be cuts in both.I will be looking for a beautiful widow lol,to listen to music with me….

My mother made it to age 101, she lived in an excellent retirement setup; 1st 2 bedroom, then 1 bedroom, then assisted living, then nursing for the last few years, so I went thru all these stages with her, each move required different solutions.

when young, chasing full range, bookshelf speakers need subs

but when down the road, bookshelf speakers do not need subs, and they would be a problem in a facility with adjacent and nearby occupants, 

you might prefer your door open some times. even if you close your door, you don't want to have a problem every time your door is opened by visiting staff which progressively becomes beyond frequent.