Need Ideas on speaker cables


Need Ideas on speaker cables .My speakers are Thiel CS6s. My Pre-Amp is ARC LS 16. Amps are Red Dragon Mono Blocks Would like to limit price to $1,000 or less!. Thoughts and Ideas would be helpful!

chiefsteward1

I really like the Analysis Plus Oval 8. Got mine on US Audio Mart. They come up used sometimes for less than $1000.

The Acoustic Zen Satori is an excellent all around cable.  Very good tonality, great upper octave detail/air, and an open 3D soundstage. I’ve used these for years as my reference cable and nothing has been able to unseat them.  You can often find them used for $500 or less.  Best of luck.

https://www.thecableco.com/satori-ii-speaker-cable-pair.html?srsltid=AfmBOoq4LhMt4K6zyyZ59C30AhyZQL9FCjZ2GYMSq0e0J4BXZU67lhe1

For many years VPI sponsored an active and excellent forum.  A strong consensus formed that Audio Sensibility made great interconnects and cables at very fair prices.  I settled on their Statement series and use them for all needs including speakers.  Once in a while a friend or a dealer will give me something else to try, most recently a Shunyata that won a best of the year award or some such.  It was certainly good, but not good enough to make me want to switch.  In addition to everything else, Stephen will let you return it if you don’t like it.  Highest recommendation.

@chiefsteward1 One of the amps I use in my system is the Red Dragon Mono Blocks.

I highly recommend you take a look at Veritas Cables, their Aperta speaker cables or better yet their Aperta SE speaker cables, all within your price range. Excellent sounding speaker cables.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/veritas-cables-a-new-brand-that-i-found

Veritascables.com

 

What are your current cables and what improvements are you looking for?

I’ll add my recommendation as I feel these cables worked well for me with several different amps (Rogue, Pass Labs) and 2 completely different types of speakers (Martin Logan Montis and Wilson Sabrina). The cables are resolving, natural sounding and let your components shine. 
 

Audience AU24 SX

I've been a big fan of Audiomica cables. I've heard them against some Cardas and thought them the equivalent but at significantly less $$. Lots of reviews from around the world do a search. 

Many choices...  The fact that you have monoblocks also opens a slightly different discussion.  Your amps could be individually located close to your speakers if you have interconnects long enough to accommodate that placement.  This could open up some savings on the speaker cable cost based upon length, though the savings may be consumed by changing to interconnects of adequate quality and length.  It is nice to have options.  

Forgot to mention Silversmith Fedelium cables. A bit over your budget but outstanding cables worth paying up for IMHO.  Read the reviews. 

https://silversmithaudio.com/fidelium-speaker-cable/

If you locate the monoblocks next to the speakers and use very short cables, the influence of the speaker cable is minimized. That may be enough.

Given your setup, I would try a different amp before spending money on wire. The most recent Hypex and Purifi output modules are completely load independent, so you might try one of those and see if that helps the sound when used with your low-impedance speakers. The only review I could find of Red Dragon monos said they were not great at low impedances. Whether that applies to your model or if the manufacturer changed them, I don’t know. 

There is NO speaker cable that will make up for a fundamental mismatch in amplifier and speaker, if that's what you have.

Just a suggestion for you to consider.

Given your system, I would think you would want cables that are on the natural musical side, if so then the best Cardas (used). If your want more detailed the DHLabs. Anti cables have a nice balance. 

It would be helpful if you define the improvements you are looking for.  However, my recommendation at your price point is WyWires Silver (WyWires.com).  Well balanced, solid bass, extended highs, good dynamics, and excellent image density and staging.   
 

 

Triode Wire Labs.  Under budget if you need 6 feet or less, $49 over budget if you need between 6 and 9 feet.  

+1 Silversmith Audio's FIDELIUM speaker cable - many reported as sonic bargain 

I have borrowed a number of sub-$1,500 speaker cables from The Cable Company in recent months.  Cardas, DHLabs, Shunyata, Kimber & RSX.  I thought the highest value for the money were the RSX cables.  They get out of the way—transparent & natural.  Not the last level in detail, but plenty.  I haven’t decided whether to buy them or spring for some much more expensive Cardas cables.

i have a vintage solid state Krell integrated (re-capped) and Audio Physic Virgo speakers.  My interconnects are Cardas Clear Beyond.

Best of luck finding something that works for you.

Would highly recommend duelund cables;  

very comparable to my Cardas reflections when comparing interconnects; duelund were a tad bit more vibrant and a lot lower cost. Cardas were warmer. 
 

much prefer the duelunds to my anticable level 4.1 speaker wires; at least in my low power horn setup.

Good luck

 

 

You can get quite good speaker cables from Home Depot or Lowes.

Get two spools of SmithWire 12 gauge THHN stranded copper wire, one red, one black.  Twist the wire 3 to 4 turns per foot between the amp and speakers.  Use the bare copper if you want, or terminate with banana plugs.  

It's an inexpensive and good preforming $25 alternative to $1,000+ cables.  

 

I really wanted Audience AU24SX speaker cables. But a bi-wire pair were a little too much to import.

Ended up with Auditorium A23. Similar sound signature to Auditorium.

Found them on Hifi Shark in Norway. Around $700 including shipping to New Zealand. A new pair of A23 jumpers brought it close to US$1000.

Well I am just going to say it! Give the Chinese guys a look, they are producing some of the best hifi right now and in my experience many of their speaker & Interconnect cables offer tangible, compelling performance & Value propositions that put many of the North American and European offerings to shame.

Oops. In my post above.

Meant to say Auditorium A23 has a similar sound signature to Audience AU24SX

Another rec for Audio Sensibility. I recently replaced all my ICs with their Statement line and their Testament speaker cables. Could not be happier and I’m picky as hell. I too have a VPI turntable that now sounds better than ever. The speaker cables are not super flexible but if that’s not issue for you, I can’t recommend enough. 

still another rec for Aaudio Sensibility.    Mine took "forever:" to become its  best  but be patient

Buy some bulk Canare 4S11 cable and terminate how you wish, or buy pre-made from WBC.  Your money will be better spent in other areas, like room treatment or calibration, IMO.  4S11 has some science behind it as far as noise rejection, and has very low resistance and capacitance.   

Again from John Siau;
"The magnetic rejection is achieved through the geometric symmetry of the conductor pairs. It should also be noted that the pairs do not need to be twisted. 4-conductor telephone quad cable is not twisted, yet it is a form of star-quad cable."

 

+3 for Silversmith. Although I have also been pleased with Snake River Audio Signature power cords. I have no experience with their speaker cables. 

Goertz alpha-core (w/ RC networks (zobels))

Straightwire

OCOS (w/ zobels)

or…

wait for Tom Thiel’s upcoming cables.

some good reports with Iconoclast

I would definitely look at Silversmith Fidelium.  Had a major impact on my system of Rogue RP-7 preamp, Odyssey mono bloc amps, and Fyne F-702 speakers.  I was astounded by the improvement, previously thinking cables could make a “modest” difference but finding out they could make a major difference.

Go to Parts Express and pick up 

Audtek Pure Copper Audiophile-Grade 16 Core Interlaced Braided OFC Hi-Fi Speaker Wire 11 AWG 

Clear insulation is polyethylene, white is teflon

Then find some terminations of your choice.

You'll have your $500-$1000 cables (at least one other supplier is selling finished cables for that) for a fair bit less.

Sorry I just find it funny how people always suggest DIY cable builds when someone asks for recommendations. I would think if the OP was interested in that option, they would have mentioned it. 

If someone asked for speaker or preamp suggestions, should we suggest they build their own as well? 

I'm very happy with World's Best Cables Ultimate Assembly, 7AWG that cost $220 (10' length).  I'm running them on Focal Sopra No. 2 speakers and they sound great.  Probably the best value out there and they look fantastic!

 

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