I Was Stunned

@gmosley - that sounds interesting

Wait until you see MY MILK CRATE audio rack!!

Now thats great.Now your bad mouthing plumbers.We are not allowed to enjoy music? Try the woods, with the bears GEZZ

@takemymoney @kennyc So to be clear, we're saying the timber can change the timbre? 🤣

@dadork The name Tamber is primarily a female name of American origin that means Music Tone. Alternate spelling of the word "timbre" pronounced "TAM-ber"

It’s not uncommon for wood shelves/racks to change the components micro vibrations which results in better performance.

@takemymoney 

Surprised that you mistook his meaning as tamber instead of timbre.

It's timbre. For someone on a crusade I think you are riding a donkey. Tamber is an app platform.

Sorry to pick on you specifically, but I am a word nazi. Many people use this word the wrong way and it really surprises me that so many make the mistake. “Timber” is wood. I think the word most people are actually looking for is “tamber.” Tamber refers to the character of sound. Timber is trees in a forest - no direct relationship there unless you are studying whether trees when hitting the ground make a sound if no one is there to hear it. I am on a crusade to get this misunderstanding cleared up. I am both a musician and tree lover, so it affects me in from a couple directions. Again, not a personal attack. Thanks for your post. 

@waytoomuchstuff 😂

Adds a totally new definition of “plumber’s butt” when’s your down on your hands and knees while wearing your loose jeans messing around with your equipment. 

@roxy54 

What about racks made by plumbers?

Your rack and equipment likely are breaking up the sound a bit, which is good as scattering reflections increases clarity and focus. 

Not coming up. 

@waytoomuchstuff @ml8764ag @petg60 thanks guys!

@lak click "Tom Carr's" in virtual systems

@tomcarr I must be missing something, where are the pictures of your new rack?

@tomcarr 

great, very nice work. 

Blue tape is always one of those usefull tools.

I really like the look of that Etsy one. Congratulations OP.

@tomcarr

Form AND function. You gotta love it when all the stars line up and things turn out better than you expected. Stunning!

I couldn’t help notice the walk clock with the album playing with simulated tonearm. I actually found one of these recently and thought it would be an appropriate gift for my big brother for his first anniversary. I designed and laser printed a new custom record label for it. He married a fairly abusive women, so I thought the song title "The Beat Goes On" was a good choice. They didn’t "get it" and proudly hung it in their exercise room.

@thecarpathian LOL!

I thought it was so you can really sink your teeth into the music!😃

Yeah, sorry.

@thecarpathian Good eye!  A  heavy book that dampens resonances and makes my CD player sound better.

An Illustrated Guide to Dentistry??!

@kota1 Thank you so much. A labor of love.

@tomcarr 

Wow, now I'm stunned, fantastic job on your room and +1 on the ceiling treatment.

@kota1 @roxy54  @speedthrills  @gemoody @ebm @petg60 @izjjzi @alucard19 @carlsbad @waytoomuchstuff 

Pictures posted, finally 

@roxy54 , not necessarily....with the unions one could fill the pipes with sand at a minimum, lead shot for max weight...*G*

...of course, 'moving' the rack itself could be as bad as moving some amps...

It's obviously not designed with sonics in mind. Those pipes must ring like a bell.

Sounds like a Sound Anchors rack. Now, put Townshend Seismic Isolation Corners under the rack and you're really isolated! 

@carlsbad 

Those ARE street elbows. 1 end male, other end female. A regular elbow has two female ends.

@gemoody 🤣

i was stunned there were no pictures.

@waytoomuchstuff 🤣

I have to admit that when the OP promised to post photos of a "nice rack", it really got my attention.

This probably the most adolecent post that you’ll see on this topic. But, to borrow a line from the movie Tequila Sunrise: "You can’t blame a compass for pointing north."

As someone who has designed furniture and cabinets in the past, including A/V credenzas, there's a way to get good vibration control without fabricating  300+ pound pipe racks in your house. Aesthetics aside (not everyone likes the upscale dorm furniture look) I think if someone is willing to spend $10k+ on a hi-fi setup they could talk to a cabinet maker to make them something visually appealing as well. 

I can't imagine having that in my house. Maybe for a garage system....

izjjzi:

I made a living room full of pipe furniture just like yours, 50 years ago when I was a poverty-stricken grad student with a good audio system and no money. Solid, heavy and ugly. DIY...you don't need Etsy or a craftsman

I use a rack made by Mapleshade, Amish craftmen. Sort of a blend of untilitairian and elegant. Thick maple slabs, large poles holding the slabs that can be adjusted, spiked to the floor. It’s made to help drain micro vibrations from your components. I love it and it’ll last a lifetime. I’m with you on this!

@roxy54 

I never guessed the rack between my speakers would have an impact. I had a stack of 4 pieces of gear on a pangea rack. I spent hours getting the speakers just right. I sold a couple of the pieces and set the remaining gear up on a small table between the speakers leaving the speakers unmoved. When the amp warmed up and I started listening to music again the difference in imaging was obvious, an unexpected and marked improvement.

Took the family to Manhattan a few years ago to buy a secondhand rack made by Box Furniture Company. Made a weekend out of it.

Got home, set everything up, and had a listen.

Of all the upgrades, tweaking, and modifications over the years - many of which to me made noticeable improvements - my wife has said nothing.

Except for this one. This time, she said the system sounds "unleashed."

....sorry, Google ’street elbow’ and here’s one of way too many....

Either that, or it has to be a low-rent periscope...😏

Whatever....one could add some ground clamps and use ones' rack as an uncommon ground.....tie into the household plumbing and wonder what that 'gurgling sound' is all about....

*mmm*  ...looks like a great way to consider tapping off the heat from those pesky tubes and into the hw heater....or the foot of the bed to warm those tweaky toes.... ;)

Insert a rubber diaphram driven by a sub voice coil to 'pump you up'.....

@izjjzi What an ingenious way to hide those unsightly hot water baseboard heaters.  Disguise them as equipment racks. 🤣

They are 90 degree straight elbows and he also uses straight tees Plus unions for assembly  No welding required  :  )  

Those are not street elbows.  

I have my racks fabricated in my friend's offroad racing ship.  Like yours they are 1" steel tube.  I cut 4" heavy wood slats that I can place under each set of feet on each component so there is air under the equipment except for these stripes.  

Picture in my biography.  

I can't say it improves sound since I have always had it.  My speakers have drivers all the way down to the floor.  But I am very happy with it.  I'm gettting a 3 chassis custom amp built so I'm going to have to design a 3 shelf version.

Jerry

Pictures or it didn't happen, post up some pics or add pictures to your system pics.

Gas fittings? Let’s start the barbecue.

Bent

Congratulations @tomcarr 

I hope it brings you years of pleasure.