What did I do??

Well considering you already seem disappointed with the Wilsons there's "no way to go but up" and you already like the Tekton sound...so you probably made a good move. 

@ghasley
Perhaps your wife wanted a challenge when she married you…did she succeed?

@MC
You’re fortunate to have a approving wife.

@bill_peloquin
Your OP seems to ask us what your personal preferences are in the future (when the Tekton is hooked up) which is unanswerable. But your later post describing what you like/dislike about the Wilsons gave me a clue to what you’re looking for. I would guess you’ll find the Tektons to be more musical to your liking. 

@ blkwrxwgn    Yes, what a shame.  There are some great members on this site-----and a few that focus destructive rather than constructive posts.  In any event, feel free to PM me if I might be of assistance to you.  I am curious to hear your thoughts on your current speakers and what you are looking for.  I had a brief stint with on OB design by EP.  Ultimately, they were were replaced by Tekton Electron SE's. Much like my DI's, these have been able to afford me something that is too often elusive in this hobby--contentment.  

Suspect the OP is in for a pleasant surprise.  

“ My wife by the way, was pleasantly surprised. And several other women who have seen them think they look just fine. “

Well... taking into consideration that your wife in some part chose yourself as a mate . We may safely discount any and all of her sensibilities...

Interesting tsushima1, why did you delete your post earlier today and then re-post the same thing above?

 - Take it with a grain of salt, after all tsushima1 is from across the pond.

...and it's boring to read a 'slap fight'.....

We are from where we is....

How does one read a 'slap fight'? I do agree that slap fights are boring.
So, you are from where you is?

@millercarbon,

So, you're telling me it is perfectly ok to trust buyer testimonials as to doing an actual in depth audition?

Maybe you should do a opinion poll thread on that. I think we know what the outcome of that will be

Yep, false economy, rent free...

Hello,
I cannot believe MC didn’t say this. Take your $1k-$2k and buy the Townshend podiums. He will give you the model and size. He said that the Moabs with the Townshend are better than the upgraded Tekton speakers without the Townshend. Something to that nature. I have not experienced the Townshend just IsoAcoustic Gaia. What my friends say when they isolate their speakers. They were surprised by how much of a difference it made. As far as your Wilsons. It’s done. No need to look back unless you can undo the deal. If you love the JBL 100. I can only imagine how you will feel after the 500 hour break in on the Moabs. Get a bass break in cd that plays low or moves the drivers. You can say money wise the Tekton are the week link in his system. He has a $10k TT. So sonically, I don’t think so. He can afford better, he just doesn’t need to. I hope this helped. 

Well my limited experience with Tekton was positive but not really anything revelatory. Sound exactly like the sum of their parts. Owner/designer of Tekton seems like a tool.

I used to hate WIlsons but think the newer models sound much better. A great deal has to do with which tweeter were in your Wilsons and what you feed them. 

The Tektons will be much easier to drive. Hope you made a positive move but I have never bought a speaker without extended listening first. As a dealer a I am finding it very difficult to choose a speaker line.

If you aren't disappointed then be ready for people thinking you are millercarbon or a paid shill......Why would you ask this after youve already done the deal?..you ask before doing the crime..pretty stupid for anyone to take this post seriously .come on another worthless tekton post, so your right

I cannot believe MC didn’t say this. Take your $1k-$2k and buy the Townshend podiums.

Goes without saying.

Testimonials on site such as this are worth exactly what is paid. Just as likely to encounter shills on chatrooms as you are corrupt/confused/inept reviewers. The more information quickly available the less valuable the information.

@dill, 'slap fight' over where one posts from or ones' spouse(s) is the grist of that...

The former, one really can't do much about unless changes were made at some point...right? *S*

One spouse is one's own problem, of which nobody here of right mind should even try to 'solve' in any fashion other than understanding and understated humor....darkness lurks there....

Our OP posed a query:  Happy? Or not so...?

I wish the former, but know the Other can ruin ones' Day One and those afterwards.  Locale narrows to The Room, the SAF pending...*shrug*G*

Moabs will be here tomorrow.  HA. 

Awesome!  Can't wait to hear what you think.

I think it's so funny reading people talking about finding speakers HAS to be done by listening to demos.  That means you will only ever hear speakers that have been marked up by the manufacturer and the dealer, speakers that are only represented in your local area (which is close to nothing in most markets nowadays).

If I or anyone else likes a speaker and talks about their personal experience, they are a paid schill.  If a magazine or online reviewer (where LOTS of people have got info to buy speakers for decades) that depends on ad revenue posts a review then it's okay?  I trust end user reviews more than only of those people because end users don't get paid to review the speaker!!!  No matter how many times you say they are shills they aren't getting paid.

I love the DTC market, it's helped smaller manufacturers to be successful and we save money buying direct.

I have been upgrading my systems and reading professional reviews for nearly fifty years; The Absolute Sound and Stereophile. During that time I have auditioned probable hundreds of components and purchased many dozens before and after hearing them. I have made out of town trips to audition new and really high end equipment. Additionally, I worked hard and learned the vocabulary and strove to identify sonic qualities in sound and components.

With this backdrop, I can say with certainty, professional reviews are relatively unbiased an extremely accurate. Professional reviewers explain their own preferences and biases.. show the different pieces of equipment they have used in the auditioning, used standard audiophile vocabulary. In general, they are extremely good at being unbiased. Yes, they are human… but there are processes of editor review to help keep reviews unbiased and make them informative.

On the other hand in forums, there is no vetting, no minimum experience requirement, no standard terminology. Some folks think the whole thing is a joke and a $100 component that cost $40,000 sound the same… although they have never seen one, let alone listen to one. Some folks think a $10K system is expensive, some think anything under $100K is terrible. Some love good deals.. etc.

So the value brought here has to be evaluated in a single reply (unless you spend a lots of time here and know some of the frequent posters. So a comment like “Buy X and be done with it is useless”. Within a post you must establish your credibility, identify your experience, biases, and tastes so the reader can decide if the comment is a valuable one to them. This is why I have my systems show and try to establish my credentials and not spread untrue conspiracy theories about companies motives.

ghdprentice

plus1 for sure!

"I trust end user reviews more than only of those people because end users don't get paid to review the speaker!!! No matter how many times you say they are shills they aren't getting paid."....who said  anything about money being exchanged for promoting products on this site getting gulable people to believe fiction over fact....i think its more like free speakers signed by the owner of the company for shill services rendered....oooh wait there arent shills on this site,lmao

I have always wanted to hear some Tektons, so have no experience with their sound signature. I will say that I find Wilson speakers to be shouty and can’t listen to them for more than about 15 minutes. Not a sound presentation that appeals to me. 
While I hope you will be satisfied with your decision, if you are not, just keep moving. They will find a good home even if not yours. 

dramatictenor
I will say that I find Wilson speakers to be shouty and can’t listen to them for more than about 15 minutes.

Interesting. I own a pair older Wilson speakers - with the extremely revealing Focal 1" inverted-dome titanium coated tweeters. Driven by a tube preamp with a Class A solid state amp. While listening this evening to digital streaming, I was really enjoying the great SQ - smooth, full-bodied, and clear. Not even a hint of shouty.

This is the result of cleaning up the power to my system. High performance requires high octane.

I had a brief stint with on OB design by EP.

corelli,

What was it you liked and did not like about the OB design by EP?
The reason I’m asking is I’m trying to make an informed decision on buying the Spatial Audio’s M6 Sapphire's or something else.


Thanks

The older Wilson tweeter was an abomination to my ears. They were only palatable with tube amps and even then they hurt after a time. 

I think it worth mentioning that the newer Wilsons are not using the older tweeter. I believe, at least on the less expensive models, they are using a silk dome.

Here is my last entry to this post. I set up the Moab speakers today. I been running them for about 4 hours.

No, they are not broken in
No, they are not the same as the Wilsons.

What did I get?  First impressions are:

Bigger sound stage
All the instruments are still there when I turn them down.
No fatigue from the speakers, yet.
More bass, effortless.
Midrange is very natural.
I am no longer looking down when playing music. I am looking up!

I have AR Ref 3 pre amp, Ref 75 power amp, DSA Phono 1 pre amp. VPI Classic 1 table. Wyred4Sound 10th anniversary DAC.

I am not a reviewer. You can tell because I do not have the language to reveal what I am hearing.

But right now I have my Pre amp at level 7. that right 7. It goes up to what? 70 right.  I am in the kitchen the next room and I can hear everything. These speakers do not need big power. I bet they would sound great on a PrimaLuna Integrated at 36 WPC. I should sell my expensive AR gear and put more money in my pocket.

Bass, I use Lyle Lovette's She Already Made Up Her Mind as a test track. There are some really low bass notes and then there is a LOWER note that my Wilson's whould only show me a HIGH listening levels. This tells me that they want more power than 75WPC of tube power. Probably 150WPC of Solid State class AB power amp. 

The music just flows out and is warm in my system. It could be wires and all tubes but I like it. If I want to cool it off I could do some tube rolling later. In the meantime I will let the speakers break in, get my spikes installed and work on position. ( Put them right where the Wilson's were, I taped the rug).

So, some of you were interested in my opinion. Others are not. 
I am keeping these speakers. They will only get better from here and I like here so, I cut up the boxes. 

Good bye. 

"They will only get better from here and I like here so, I cut up the boxes."

😊
Congratulations again and I’m happy it worked out so well for you. It certainly seems you took a big step up from where you were with your Wilsons.
Charles

Awesome. I could almost hear the heads explode from here.   

Yes they do image well. You are right on about the power. Mine are awesome with 20 Raven tube watts. If you like em on spikes, put em on Podiums, whole nother level.  

Enjoy!

Chuck,

You finally got the Raven? 

Bill,
 Congrats on the Moabs! I may order a pair one day. I had DIs and liked them a lot. They did some things other speakers could not touch and were very easy to listen to. Very detailed as well. I hear the Moabs are much better. 

Yes but Blackhawk not Reflection. Probably nowhere near as good but pretty darn good for the money and also nowhere near as expensive so all in all I'm happy. 20W with Moab is plenty, that's for sure!  

We had a bunch over recently and I was able to hear a 37wpc SET amp with my Moabs, and then the same amp/preamp with his Tekton Pendragon XL, so I now have good experience with two different Tekton speakers and they are remarkably similar. Brandon has upgraded his crossovers similar to mine and so pretty soon I will have a good comparison on that as well.  

They are similarly easy to enjoy and definitely do things other speakers cannot touch. And would you believe, of all the people to not cut the boxes up, mine are still in one piece. Rent free. Heh.

I have owned the Moabs with BE tweeters and upgraded capacitors for ten months now.  Fabulous speakers and they will improve for about 100 hours of burn in.  

I have had a bunch of other speakers in my system and the Moabs were better than all of them but I haven't had significantly more expensive speakers so a couple of months ago I went and listened to the Wilson Sasha DAWs.  Those were the first speakers I have heard that were definitely better than the Moabs.  They are also $38K.  In the hope of finding a similar improvement for much less money, I recently purchased the Wilson Watt Puppy 7s.  I have had those set up in my second system for a couple of weeks now.  I don't think I have them really dialed in yet.  I think the sound of the Watt Puppy's is actually quite close to the Moabs.  They seem to have a bit more detail but at the cost of a thinner, less dense sound and a smaller sound stage.  So far I still prefer the Moabs but as I said, I don't think I have the Watt Puppy's in their final position.  

I have no idea how the Watt Puppy's compare to the Sophia's.  I will say I didn't like the Sabrina's at all.  It doesn't surprise me to learn that you prefer the Moabs to the Sophia's.  

All the Tekton haters on hear seem to love to vehemently share their opinions without having any real basis for them.  The Moabs, in particular, are excellent speakers and a remarkable value.  

OP: Congratulations on finding speakers that bring out the best of your music. Enjoy!

@pinwa
When your Wilsons are properly dialed in, the music will float in 3D space - with a wide & deep sound stage. ½” makes a significant difference. It’s that time alignment thing. These furniture sliders are great for repositioning – discovered by @tvad. Moving them out from the wall also helps a lot. Thinner, less dense SQ might be a cabling issue.

@steakster I definitely need to play around with the positioning.  And the fact that they only take spades meant none of my existing speaker cables worked and I still need to optimize that.  And the speakers didn't come with spikes so they are flush with the carpet which makes them easier to move around but that can't be optimal for the sound.  Obviously, I bought the Watt Puppy 7's in the hope that they would be better than the Moabs and I still haven't ruled that out.  

As far as I refinement Wilson is much better imo
build quality  and parts quality  No comparison ..

You wanted more sound just not more quality sound while at the same time saving some money, I can kind of see why you did what you did. Bigger sound does not mean better sound. You might be able to fill your room with sound, what does that mean? Will you be able to hear individual instruments, a good soundstage, delineation, air around each instrument? Probably not.
You could have traded in your Wilson’s for a bigger better pair of Wilson’s that would be better for your room and would sounded much better than your current purchase, so I’m guessing you mainly wanted to save money, so in this case, I would have purchased 4 apple HomePods with a couple subs. 

There is a chance you might.

Can we assume the OP traded in a pair of Sophia generation one speakers worth maybe 4 grand on a good day?.....so its a big deal these Tektons we are celebrating preformed as good or better than a speaker that was up graded 2 times and then  finally discontinued many years ago?..bravo..what an accomplishment .job well done lmao

@bill_peloquin  

Congratulations, Bill. Wonderful to hear that you are enjoying them. They will improve with time. 

Miller's advice to isolate will also deliver. Isoacoustic GAIAs are an option; Townshend Podiums a step above.

I am keeping these speakers. They will only get better from here and I like here so, I cut up the boxes.

You will never know.  By the time the new ones have broken in you will have forgotten what the old ones sounded like.

I always audition before buying, or if that isn't possible buy, break in, and assess before deciding which to keep. Anything else is a bit of  blind stab in the dark.

If all you want is loud than the Moab is for you. The Sophia is a much more refined loudspeaker. The difference in detail and imaging should be startling. The Sophia is way better constructed. The Moabs are the cheapest possible construction. 

You are not alone, I have made similar mistakes in the past. Experience is the best teacher. 

What is wrong with people?  @mijostyn assuming he made a mistake when he said he loves the speakers?  Why does him liking another speaker make you feel so inadequate?  I still don't get why people do this.

Have you heard the Moabs?  Have you heard them in his room against the Sophia?  Then stfu and move on!  Let the man be happy with his purchase.

I had a pair of Sophias (for a few long weeks). I did not like them.  Took a drive North. Heard Millercarbon’s system- first the Talons, then the Tektrons- and, loved them!
Chucks knows how to get the best sound out of his equipment.  So, OP, be patient, I think you’ll be glad you took the plunge. Keep us posted. 

  @pinwa,

The W/P 7 doesn't sound terribly similar to the Sophia II (the OP id'ed the series in a later post).  I auditioned a used pair of 7's when I auditioned my Sophia II's. The W/P is more dynamic for sure (the OP would almost certainly like them better than he did the Sophias) but is, to my ears, hollow sounding in the mids and highs, and as one poster cited, a bit shouty. Works great on select music, but doesn't suit my taste on most.  The Sophia II has none of these characteristics and I've been very happy with mine for a dozen years now (replaced B&W Matrix 802 S2's now in my office). Never heard any Tektons and don't really care to because unlike MC, I find them to be fugly and a half, and I'm satisfied with my system as is.

The OP wasn't happy with his Sophias so selling them makes sense to me. I just couldn't bring myself to buy speakers sound unheard as it were, they are just too idiosyncratic for that IMO.  Yes the room makes a difference, but I've heard many speakers that couldn't sound good - to me - no matter what room they were in.
So good luck to the OP on his choice. If they make him happy then that's all that matters.

It doesn't matter how the speaker sounds to you the only thing that matters is the spins, how it measures from 70 or so points off axis!
Never trust your ears.
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@khughes

"So good luck to the OP on his choice. If they make him happy then that’s all that matters ".

Agree! Why do people have to constantly project their own tastes and biases? Sure, some would prefer the Wilson Sophia and surely some would opt for the Moabs. Why can’t we simply respect the decision of @bill_peloquin and appreciate that he’s happy? Good grief!
Charles .

The post is suspect at best as most Tekton post are...a setup to continue the conversation and prolong free advertisement of the product..the negativity imo has nothing to do with this guy and his purchase if it even happened ,which i doubt..

The OP asked for opinions and he got them.  Some positive and some negative.  If he didn't want to hear what other people think of his purchases, then he wouldn't have asked.

What did you do? Off the top of my head: serious money problems. Totally understandable