Why, only two?
Two Turntables? Why
OK, been thinking about this for a bit. Why do people own two turntables? OK, I understand some traditional uses for a 2nd turntable. One that is just for 78's, for example. You may be on a journey to a set up you really enjoy listening to. You may have even gone the route of an external power supply, isolators, base, phono PreAmp. All of the accouterments you enjoy because, well, you enjoy records.
But if you are enjoying your LPs and you have purchased a turntable, cartridge and potentially a tonearm that you really enjoy, why do you need a 2nd turntable?
If you go through all that effort and fun to get to a sound and system that makes you happy, and many of us have, why do it for two or more turntables. You got a good one, why do you need a 2nd? Maybe you play all your old LPs from High School on one standard turntable and play all your MoFi and QRP copies on the better machine. I don't know.
So, those of you who own more than one turntable, please let me know why you have more than one. Let me know your thinking. I'm curious.
Thanks
If you go through all that effort and fun to get to a sound and system that makes you happy, and many of us have, why do it for two or more turntables. You got a good one, why do you need a 2nd? Maybe you play all your old LPs from High School on one standard turntable and play all your MoFi and QRP copies on the better machine. I don't know.
So, those of you who own more than one turntable, please let me know why you have more than one. Let me know your thinking. I'm curious.
Thanks
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chicks dig turntables......multiple.:-) i've had as many as 5 at once, had one for a long time, now i have three. if you asked me 2 years ago i would have said i would only have one turntable forever. what changed? i realized (1) how much i enjoyed vinyl, (2) how different drive approaches had different musical characters, (3) i enjoyed each of those characters in a different way, and (4) i just think turntables are cool things to mess around with. so i found 2 more turntables i liked enough to own and bought them. and i'm really enjoying having these three. check back in 2-3 years and we will see if i still have three, or maybe by then 4. |
I have six turntables. I have four systems. Each has a turntable, my main system has two. I need to get rid of one and am about to put one up for sale as soon as I have time. The reason I have two turntables is that I buy a lot of used records. In general, I play new or NM records on my best table, which also has a more expensive cartridge. The used records that are VG+ (or sometimes worse) generally get played on the other turntable which has a less expensive cartridge. Sound quality is pretty close, but I'd rather have the cartridge that cost twice as much last longer and not wear it out playing records that are less than perfect. My second turntable is a Technics SL1200 MK2 which also gives me the option of easily switching out different cartridges. I have three different cartridges that all sound different that I can swap out. That all probably still sounds crazy, and perhaps it is. |
Why not? I have three totally different systems divided over two rooms. One is what could be called mainstream modern high end, with big dipole panels and solid state amplification. The other system in the room is vintage Japanese (a personal 1970's nostalgia 'thing') and the third system in an upstairs room is high efficiency dynamic speakers with single ended tube amplification. These systems are worlds apart with very different strenghts and weaknesses. This is why I simply fail to understand these endless and boring 'which is better' debates about tubes versus solid state, or dynamic versus panel speakers for that matter. They're different approaches to the real thing and neither of them will ever fully reach their objective. Having the possibility to enjoy these different takes on reality is one of the great joys of being an audiophile. Some people will say it's bullsh*t, but we love it, don't we kids? But there's one 'which is better' debate that does have a right to exist. So let's hear it again: analog really is better than digital. So as a vinyl enthousiast and record collector it is the most natural thing to have a turntable in each of these three systems (and one of these tables holds three different tonearms). I don't understand why anyone would have it any other way. |
You can arrange a constant play using two of them. You can compare different tonearm and cartridges. You can separate them in two different systems if needed. You can have one for backup if it's rare one. And it's a lot of fun. Here is what i use, but how can i ignore some others like this or that, they are so nice. It's like being in the studio surrounded by audio gear. Constant learning process also. I prefer vintage turntables from the golden era, it's a bit like your own museum too. This is an interesting hobby, not just one turntable to play records. |
I did have 6 at one time, spread around the house on varying systems. Now down to just 3. 2 in my main system where one is stereo and the other is pure mono. 1 in my daughters system. So to cut to why two? As you can see i can switch from stereo to mono in seconds on the phono pre. Thats about all I got for a serious reason. Any other good reason is because I can..... |
Like my hero Art Dudley, I wanted the two most iconic vintage tt's of all time, the TD124 and the 301. Both of mine are maxed out in terms of both restoration and performance upgrades. It just so happens that my TD124 was purchased the year I was born by my dad and has therefore always been in my family. I grew up with it. And my 301 is one of the most desirable by collectors-an early grease bearing rimless that was found in nearly NOS condition. Granted, the performance upgrades I chose meant the original grease bearing was replaced by a modern all-brass bearing but just the same, the deck is gorgeous to those that know what they are looking at. And unlike modern decks, vintage decks allow for custom plinths that add to the beauty and satisfaction of having something that only a true artisan can craft. So that is why I have two decks, each on either side of my equipment rack sitting on their own Symposium Foundations. As Greg Metz told me-and he is right-there are some records that sound best on one and others that sound best on the other. That phenomenon adds to the fun. |
Thanks for all the contributions. @tom6897 Why do I ask? I have what I consider a good moving coil turntable & cartridge. Together they are over &10K. I know, I know, price isn't everything, but it sounds sweet to me. But I am going through playing my all LPs (A-Z), that I have been collecting for 40+ years and some are not in great shape. I like many here I cringe at using my $5K cartridge on an LP that saw weekly use in High School. I have not dared to play any of my 78s on it either. So, I have been contemplating a new 2nd turntable. One that plays my 78's and other less audiophile quality stuff. The thought of two tone arms interests me. So, many questions floating around in my head. Should I get good MM turntable to play the less pristine LPs? If so, which one? Should I get a turntable with two arms so that I can play 78's on a well paired cartridge? I dunno. Should I just stick with what I have because I am happy with what I am listening to now? But, thanks again. @millercarbon If turntables are like women, I'll stick with one. Was married for 30 years, until death did us part. That was plenty for me. But maybe old age, wisdom and a 2nd turntable may change my way of thinking. |
I like many here I cringe at using my $5K cartridge on an LP that saw weekly use in High School. I have not dared to play any of my 78s on it either. So, I have been contemplating a new 2nd turntable. One that plays my 78’s and other less audiophile quality stuff. The thought of two tone arms interests me. Simply look for SP10R or earlier SP-10mk III or cheaper SP-10 mkII they are all designed for use with 33/45/78 records. The SL1200G also play 78rpm. Should I get good MM turntable to play the less pristine LPs? If so, which one? Should I get a turntable with two arms so that I can play 78’s on a well paired cartridge? Definitely, and with really good MM under $1k from the golden era you will be surprised comparing it to your $5k MC :)) Read this. Without breaking the bank you can find a decent MM with spare styli for Stereo, different era of Mono, and 78 rpm (Pickering and Stanton made all kind of styli for their MM cartridges). You can play 78 on Technics with MM cartridges, all you need is heavier headshell and stylus designed for 78 rpm. If you want to be purist you can buy heavy tonearm like FR-64s and special mono cartridge for 78 rpm like Miyajima. Technics SP-10r (or SP-10 mkIII, mkII) can be used with two tonearms, but tonearm must be at least "10.5 inch or longer (avoid "9 inch tonearms for this drive because of the short mounting distance). |
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@luisma DJ'ing got me into vinyl in the 90's. It's what kept up vinyl sales in the UK in the 90's. That aside I will say that I agree with @mikelavigne - although I do it on a far smaller scale. Besides people buy watches, shoes, cars, houses. Are turntables different? Wonderful tactile things built with care, thought, and love which entertain |
I have one TT with an extra cartridge sitting in a drawer (for 8 years). From a purely justifiably logical standpoint (something you may be able to justify to a wife who is not allowed to touch anything in the stereo or records except the volume knob) I can easily see having a two arm table for mono vs stereo without hassle if you're that concerned with that, although I've heard that is not a big deal. I can also see using one arm/cartridge for VG+ and below records to do less damage to a less expensive cartridge. Maybe an extra table for that reason feeding a 2 input phono stage that could be less expensive tor two complete tables versus a 2 arm table (but you may have the wife complain so a two arm table may ultimately less expensive for you). Of course if you have multiple systems, that doesn't count. Each certainly needs its own turntable. Beyond that, it's an equipment hobby, like rolling tubes, which is fine if you're into that. And swapping in and out multiple tables is a space/convenience and cost issue, like reel to reel vs. analogue and analogue versus digital. |
One I have had since forever and it is "main". I barely use it, in fact. Elvis and I have had the other one (Dual). I mean, I used to listen to one like that a lot many years ago so I bought it recently just to see it again. Elvis had the same one, not mine of course. It is in the box in friend’s garage. So, technically, I do own two turntables although I doubt this scenario is what you were asking about. |
I have a modern table with extremely accurate speed that sounds very clear. It's my daily driver and sounds superb. I have a classic TD124 for that rim drive magic, and to play all of my 16's and 78's (ok, joking, no 16's). It's a classic, and has its charm but the sound is certainly more veiled than the other 'deck. It has a replaceable headshell, so I can easily swap between mono, stereo and 78 styli. That's worth holding on to--for now. |
I replaced a modified Project manual turntable with a Technics automatic from the early 80's. I really enjoy the auto shut off, but miss the more exacting sound of the Project. I may add a decent quality manual in the future for serious listening, but I will keep the Technics for my more casual needs. |
My reason was to run a second tonearm one light and one heavy. I don't care for any of the two arm turntables I can afford. I like big greg's idea of using a second table for used records. Once I get enough loose change I plan on putting a Reed 5T on a Grand Prix Monaco 2.0. That will negate the need for a second arm and table entirely. |
I have a MOFI studio deck that I prefer to use when I want to hear really good quality music. I also have a Denon turntable that plays fairly decent. The main reason I haver two turntables is because the MOFI tt is professional grade and I have to manually lift the tonearm after record ends. The Denon is fully automatic and the tonearm lifts and shuts off once the record is finished. This is valuable in case I am tired and at risk of falling asleep before the album is finished. Otherwise the other tt will just keep hitting the album label and ruin the needle. I do NOT play my MOFI's on the DENON. I think that's against the law. rn102198 |
First they are days when you are not ready to get up right away at the end of the record here the semi automatic .forget the audiophile myths there are some very good ones out. After a while in this journey some of us find out the best way to clean our minds from the false claims out there in the reviews and the audiophile circles is to listen to different pieces of audio in our own system .I enjoy putting the Davids of yesterday next to the Expensive Goliaths of today |
I have 2 modest TT,Rega P3, Thorens TD 166 Mk II, I keep one as spare, back-up, just in case of a fault in the other that would require expert repair. And swap them periodically to evaluate the differences, and as a change of scenery. I don't play 45's or 78's, and no mono either. Those who collect such, I can readily understand, having more arms, or decks. Not hard to understand that, is it? |
I also have four systems and four turntables. Some systems are SS and some tube. Some have separate phono pre and some use the integrated amp's own phono stage. Different cartridges are also used and switched out. I have $20K turntables and I have a $700 Sony digitizing usb table. I guess what I'm trying to say is that different music played on different systems is part of what makes this hobby so involving (and, yes, expensive). But I do not mock the OP for the question. It is a legitimate question and I have tried to provide an honest response. |
My post was taken down, you have fully the right to do so.However advancing it was offensive is wrong , .There was nothing offensive offensive to who or to what group of people.Reading my post again I realize that it may seems to the censors that I was advertising freely on your site for my table. If it is the reason , you are fully on your right but this should be specified clearly instead of alluding to a possible offensive nature of my words.I entered the conversation, talking freely like if I were in an audiophile conversation , my mistake I was in fact in a commercial, business oriented setting. My mistake , things have changed. |
I just realized that I do not have two turntables. I own three turntables. I completely forgot about the ownership of Mitsubishi LT-30. I have it because I found it. I have never gotten to putting new belts in it. Maybe some day. Otherwise, it lights up, rotates, etc. It seems it is only the arm belt that turned into goo. At least that is how it was last time I looked at it. It is heavy. |