No experience with it , but how about expanding upon your comment about its sound with some details and comparision to the others you mentioned.
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Many times, wonder if there is even a reason to get on the bus. It seems that no matter what you buy, even if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, someone has to come along and tell you that you're sorely lacking because it will never sound good. Not until you start replacing cords/wires, smearing magic lotions, rolling tubes and fuses, installing high price isolators, ad infinitum to keep lifting endless veils between you and nirvana. |
@dekay Window Pane. |
Purple has been great for my dac and CD transport, but too bright for my phono preamp. Jokes can be made of their effectiveness but they are the bottle neck to power reaching your equipment. That's a fact. In certain cases, they offer better improvements than power cables in my system. But of course that is another line of products for some to joke about... I however do agree that the rainbow progression over the years is a bit much to absorb. Purple is enough for me, completely satisfied with my sound as is. |
Fuses make a difference, Donavabdear said no fuse is better than a fuse. I wonder about that. I have bypassed fuses and have been shocked by how much better my system sounded. Fuller bass, expanded sound stage to name a couple, but I wonder if the Synergistic fuses don't also perhaps bring some subtle filtering into the system all the while somehow increasing current flow. If you can't hear a difference in either wires nor fuses, you are truly blessed. The money you will save will be significant! Ignorance is bliss!
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I blew a couple of hifi fuses (ouch!) because I didn’t get slo blo. Rookie mistake. So I cut them apart to see what’s inside. It was a thin wire between two end caps. A piece of teflon tubing was shrouding the filament inside a ceramic tube. It seems other types of hifi fuses use mineral fill around the filament. And maybe some silver plated end caps for a good connection. Looks like a labor intensive assembly process hence the high cost. My theory is they find some way to dampen the thin wire from mechanical vibrations. The wire itself is maybe high grade OCC copper plated with silver and is directional- just like certain cables. The good news is, hifi fuses will blow if overloaded. |
I have (and swear by) SR fuses. I currently use Purples and Oranges in almost all my components. I've not heard the new Pink one, though. That being said, I would imagine the higher end your equipment, the better match the more expensive models of fuse would be. @captaindidactic , I agree. Ignorance is bliss.
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@tonywinga Cool, and sadly expensive, that you were able to dissect a couple of tubes. It would be nice if the filament were some highly conductive audiophile wire, but generally it has to be something with a low melting point, like lead and tin. If anyone has an audiophile fuse that is blown and they want to donate it to science, send it to me, I will dissect it and try to test the filament by spectroscopy to see what metal it is. I will also try to measure it, I have an optical micrometer. Jerry |
@captaindidactic Your report that bypsass (putting a jumper or slug in) resulted in much better sound is totally consistent with my experience. I don't think audiophile fuses can ever approach the performance of a jumper. Fuses have to blow and to blow they have to have a significant resistance and low melting point. Jumpers don't have to blow. The real answer is replace your fuse with a breaker, thus the SDFB which will outperform any audiophile fuse. Jerry |
carlsbad2, I know. The first rule of hifi fuses: You blow ‘em you’ve bought ‘em. When I get a chance, I’ll look to see if I still have one my blown fuses lying around. Destructive testing is my favorite., Btw- I didn’t hear a difference with hifi fuses in my amps but a hifi fuse in my previous DAC made a difference. |
Carlsbad2, I used a slug. Next time it will be a jumper, maybe silver. The funny thing is that although their were immediate changes, they were subtle. What really shocked me was that after about two weeks of heavy play, all of a sudden my bass increased pretty dramatically. I didn't purchase fuses because each of my NAD 2600 amps took 6. The cost of the fuses would have exceeded the cost of the unit! I am now running a Lumin T2 streamer with a Master fuse and a McIntosh 12000 integrated with a purple fuse. The Master fuse in the Lumin really helped the soundstage expand. The purple.... not so sure. |
@dekay .....No 'substantial differences' in that 'product market' per se....it was typically in what one was 'listening to', time, place, space, and fellow trippers.... ....but you knew that already...;) |
I have owned all types . A buzz fuse is a bottle neck plain and simple . it is zinc steel a horrible conductor,in the metals index around a 18 copper like Hifi tuning silver,copper, or their gold over copper are in the63+ category , 3 x better conductor = that in less noise resistance. if youtrulywanttohear aBig improvement Danish Ansuz ,AAvic use several technologies and munches of different types of Tesla coils ,no BS they are exceptional vs any other brands. My brother has them on his line conditioner as well as Ethernet switch at many price points starting under $2500 then stortz which lower noise further plugging into empty rca,or Ethernet ports. Not cheap but this technology is in their all in one integrated amp, streamer and dac ,starting at$5500 a true bargain and each product is very good the forte 3 is $11k and 2- $8 k, with the excellent Borresen line their X series I have heard and a bunch of trickle down technologies.
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audioman58 What were you smoking when you wrote that post?Might want to utilize the Preview button and proof your post, Not being snarky but it really is difficult to make sense of. |
I've tested Fancy Fuses (a while back) and noted that they do nothing to improve the sound of gear over a basic fuse, aren't provided by any manufacturer that I know of, can be rated improperly and blow for no reason (trust me) and generally are ignored by most audiophiles. Otherwise they're great. Buy them...lots of them...go ahead... |
@wolf_garcia , well, at least you've tried one. I'm curious how many naysayers in this thread have actually TRIED an audiophile grade fuse. Probably in the neighborhood of 10%, I'd guess. I do find it interesting that some people (myself included) absolutely can hear a difference and some people can't. All I can suggest is "try one". If it works for you, great. If not, get your money back.
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I was waiting for this question to arise about so much product churn from Synergistic Research. It was an audible improvment when I swapped my factory component fuses for Orange then Purple and then Swiss Digital Fuses. It's certainly not that SR fuses don't improve things, it's just the regularity of having to reinvest or suffer from FOMO. The lovely thing is that I replaced 4 Purples with Swiss Digital fuses 6 months ago and so when Pink came out I was already off the merry go round and feel great about it. I change components so It's very nice to know my SDFs can be reprogramed. I look forward to trying different slugs in the future. I expect to see OEMs begining to encorporate the SDF type fuse into new designs. |
Wolf said he tried an fancy fuse. He didnt say which one so really no help to this discussion. Further, he has tended to dismiss some of the tweeky stuff in the past and so has a predisposition of doubt. Probably a good thing. I have no interest in fuses or in anything Ted makes. Because of Ted and because of some of the claims made on their site. |
Yeah, I also have a hard time believing anyone isn’t hearing a difference unless they are putting them in a router or something. In every component I’ve used aftermarket fuses had an equivalent effect as a power cable, and each one sounds different. They also create what absolutely must be measurable differences in frequency response and transient energy. There are enough YouTube videos put there comparing different ones, and the difference clearly comes through even over compressed video. I mean it’s wild, even the shade of light and contrast in the LCD displays changes. The main components I understand are quartz sand, as a vibration damper, and various ferrite-like minerals that reduce noise. They also seem to greatly increase the current a component can draw from the wall. I'm interested in how the Pink sounds, esp if it corrects the midrange excess of the Purple. |