Is blasphemous Music ok?


 

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@thecarpathian People were referencing Zappa.

”If God made us in his image he must be kinda dumb and a little ugly on the side.”

”Who Needs the Peace Corps?” - “Oh, my hair’s getting good in the back!”

I always wonder if God’s hair is getting good in the back.

Anyone have a clue as to what this means?

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Frank Zappa made a song from his quote, "If god made us in his image he must be kinda dumb and a little ugly on the side."

@mapman ...too late, I fear...Liturgy claims man is born corrupt, although gender ID seems to punch harder at the ’outies’ v. the ’inies’....

I remember the nunz seemed to punish the guys harder and more often than the girls....using a ruler to swat one’s hands.

As one went up the grades, we learned to cup our hands slightly, which gave the satisfying sound but lessened the impact. ;)

The Sisters caught on to the ploy, requiring one to arch the hand to promote impact with inner knuckles and the wrist. :(

One sister got obviously really pissed off at me, hauled me downstairs to a storage room. Made me drop my pants and swatted my butt with a telephone cord,

That got her a phone call from my parents, but I caught it from them for causing whatever I did then.

A year later, I got transferred to a local junior high school....

I’d burned up enough chalk and chalkboard yardage, so they were probably happy to see me leave....

Bart Simpson and I have a lot in common in that regard.

I think my blasphemous turn started with a Q&A session for a class with one of the priests, my query being "What does it feel like to be dead?"

Bluntly..."No feeling, no consciousness, no awareness." I got a stare from him, and silence amongst my classmates....

It took awhile later for it to sink in that ’life after death’ was somewhat tenuous as a concept; if I’d been more of a smartass I’d have pointed that out and got myself expelled from the 4th grade....!

"...that little snot has no respect for Catholic teachings...." they’d say to the parents, and advise them to send me to the area school for the ’hard cases’.

Doin’ time in the Christian mine...missed an opportunity to become a atheist folk singer...*sigh* Peter, Paul, Mary, and Jerry...."I coulda been a contender..."

*LOL* Instead, here, pestering y’all... 😏

So a group of naive primitives were pondering where man came from a decided a god had created man in his likeness. Then a woman tempted the man with her sexy apples and ruined the perfection.

And you're blasphemous because…

 

I can't find a version with my favourite line - he don't slip and he don't slide, cause his ass is magnetised.

If its OK or not would depend on who’s deciding if it’s OK or not...

Best statement of the thread.

@keepupquestions

"Is blasphemous Music ok?"

@hilde45

"Music taking on religion is much more easily tolerated than music taking on other topics, in my experience."

If its OK or not would depend on who’s deciding if it’s OK or not...

 

Makes getting grounded for sneaking out to a death metal gig seem kinda lame. :(

Given the crazy stuff people excuse in the name of their religions, I could kind of get behind a god that only allowed profanity, no killing in the name of or anything, just swearing.

People with Tourette’s would be automatically canonized. Holy texts would be inventive putdowns, with some dirty jokes.

You know what? I think this religion has legs! If the scientologists can get classified as a religion, so should this!

Happy Listening!

Dagda

*L* @thecarpathian , Congrats! You Win...nothing but having it correct. ;)

There is some discussion as to whether he's saying/singing 'Dare' or 'There', but it's all tied up in the accent....

I like the noises they make, the vids are just fun 'frosting' to watch... *G*

(Like the 'Zombie Massacre' Moment...beats our newspaper here....*L*)

@yoyoyaya ....and lets' take all the other stuff on faith...Right.....😏

You Betcha'. 

'Scuse me, dead friend Zed is ringing me on the Ouija...gotta run. *toodles*

Imho...we've more serious issues to cope with....:(

A friend FB'd me a pic and a loop of her drug addicted cat high on a major dose of catnip.

A current event overseas seems to signify a growing problem:

Drugged Animals; Wild Ones:

You Have Been Woke. 

It's better than that that dreadful anti progress country song that featured on a thread recently.

BTW, the idea that that Catholic church banned the tritone is a myth.

Adam Neely has a very good discussion of it here:

 

@pedroeb ...like the one we're facing now? 😏

If so, I'm glad to miss the bulk of the show...although I may have to tolerate the prolog...   

Can't put all the blame on the religions this time around, tho'.  We umans have breed some 'variants' in the meanwhile....mostly an awful lot of us.

Saw a little blurb the other night where current human consumption and waste actually requires 1.75 Earths to support that.

If Everyone C&W'd (no pun, noo) like all good 'Mericans, we'd need 5 of them.

'Everyone' wants to live like us....well, kinda.

We're screwed.  By ourselves.

Been nice to chat with y'all.  Hope your version is quick and sudden. ;)

If you look at the archaeology of the Romans you'll see that religion put society into a lengthy period of dark ages. Where would we be without it? Go for it!

@noske: I saw Larry Norman quite a few times when he was one of the two lead singers in the San Jose group People, who had a hit single in 1968 with their recording of The Zombies "I Love You". Larry was asked to leave the group when the four musician-members---who had become Scientologists---deemed him "anti-social" (oh those nutty Scientologists ;-) . Fellow-singer Gene Mason---like Larry, not a Scientologist---also left the group, starting a band named Radio. My teenage band played a show in Saratoga with them in the summer of '69, as well as opening for the now Larry and Gene-less People line-up in Santa Cruz that same summer. People's guitarist Geoff Levin went on to make some good records, including a direct-to-disc on Sheffield Labs Records! He has also had a productive career in film and television.

In 1977 I happened to see that Larry was appearing at The Paramount Theater in Portland, so decided to go see what he was up to. The Paramount was a pretty big theater, and it was packed. Larry was a good entertainer (solo, accompanying his singing on piano and guitar), and the very well-behaved audience (oh those Christians ;-) responded very enthusiastically. I followed up the show by buying a copy of Larry's latest album---In Another Land---at Music Millennium, which is still in my collection. The following year I again attended a show at The Paramount, this one of a very different nature: AC/DC and Thin Lizzy ;-) .

the FCC/powers-that-be have long protected us namby-pamby 'muuricans from such, courtesy of the 7-second delay as well as the advent of recording tape and the editing block, scissoring such songs as "the pusher" [steppenwolf] and "mississippi g*dd*m" [nina simone] if indeed they were to get airplay in the first place. 

@pesky_wabbit 100%.
How anyone, given the small sample size of just the last few months, let alone the last couple thousand years, would cast AT LEAST a skeptical eye, if not a completely terrified/horrified eye at the domineering, oppressive and insidious presence of religion in our lives is beyond me.

...blasphemous music.....*hmmm*

One could say that most of the concerts I've attended were such, even though few touched on religions, religious subjects, and those involved in that.

Half naked freaks, painted with cabalistic symbols or clothing depicting such, writhing to extremely loud pagan beats, shouted over by the obviously deranged. ;)

Drinking, smoking, touching, groping...all that 'fun chit'....

Raised Catholic, the more I read about religions, esp. Christianity, the more I looked askance at the whole trope.  At least Eastern religions more or less left it up to you, the individual, to determine what sort of human you sought to be.

I look at the universe we find ourselves adrift in and feel that the concept of an 'afterlife' to be a cruel joke played upon the gullible and fearful.  We place such importance on ourselves as some sort of pivot point in the void....when the truth is that we're just better at kidding ourselves as to our importance.

Hell, our pets mirror many of our traits....and we try to make their existence a better version of our own.....

"And if there be self-make hells, we all have to live within them..."  *sigh*

Believe what you must, or want.

If I 'see' you on the 'other side of this life', we can have a good cosmic giggle about it all and consider what to do to cope with infinity.
THAT concerns me more than any 'guilt trip' you can dish out, other than what seems like the headlong rush to guarantee the 'end times' that some seem to wish for beyond all rational comprehension....

...and the fear of having to live through it.

It won't be pretty, no....

I interviewed Larry Norman (quite a known Jesus rocker in his time) after one of his concerts, for publication in a student magazine. He has a song called why does the devil have all the good music?

He thought Mick Jagger does good lyric about fundamentalist preachers. He loved this from the Undercover album.

Our TV leader boldy speaks
The words of Christ he tries to preach
We need more power to hold the line
The strength of darkness still abides

Must be hell living in the world
Living in the world like you
Must be hell living in the world
Suffering in the world like you

Keep in a straight line, stay in tune
No need to worry, only fools
End up in prison of conscience cells
Or in asylums they help to build

Organised religion is the single worst thing in the history of the world.  We all wish Mr Rushdie a return to good health.

+1 - It is becoming increasingly difficult to protect our hard won secular freedoms from the resurgence of global religious fervour and fanaticism.

Rights are constantly being eroded under the guise of the morality of those who see themselves guided by a divine power. What were once shades of grey have  become absolutes. Evolution > devolution…

I am surprised this thread is still up.

Figured someone by now would have taken offense to it  and, you know...

What I found blasphemous was the braying and bleating of the coiffure-challenged guy in the video.

Why are you screaming at me, dude?  What’s your problem?

I came to this site for the brotherhood of music lovers. This is a stupid question as it asks mortals what God thinks of being mocked. If you have to ask that you won’t be listening for a answer. Can we drop religion (or lack thereof) and politics and get back to the earthly reason for having this site.

 

Blasphemy or not, the towel that looks like the shroud of Turin, is f***ing hilarious!

Organised religion is the single worst thing in the history of the world.  We all wish Mr Rushdie a return to good health.

Ugh.  This again.

I grew up in a country where all speech that was not an explicit threat or an explicit incitement of violence to people or property was protected in the constitution.

I thought that was a pretty cool way to grow up.  I would like my kids and grandkids to enjoy living in a free society.

You know, because living in a free society is better than living in…um.., the opposite of that.

I think it's safe to say that we've entered new territory with this one.

Repelling a person's most sacred beliefs in the most unglorious and unflattering way is not a way to make new friends.  My guess is that the "artists" in the examples here were either a) sodomized choir boys with (justified) deep emotional scars, or b) immature little men who like to gain attention at the expense of others.  I'm leaning towards "b".  

Whatever your viewpoint on organized religion there are right and wrong ways to affect change.  There doesn't seem to be an attempt here for a call to action to make things better.  Simply a cowardly "in your face" rebuke of a belief system that others view as vital to the quality of their current life -- and, the next one.  Okay, some religious zealots exposed the reality of your decrepit life on a street corner?  Fair enough.  Talk to them.  Tell them how you feel.  Just don't bash the other 99.9% that had nothing to do with the souless human being stuck in your body for a few more decades.

When I was thirty years old I was dating a young woman who, when reaching "that moment" in lovemaking, spoke in tongues. At least that's what her caterwauling sounded like to me. She was a recovering cokehead, and a  ton-o-fun. ;-) 

I believe that the Catholic Church has been found to act in a manner infinitely more blasphemous than could be accomplished by the spoken word....

i look to Ted Nugent for nuggets of spiritual guidance….. I would adopt a self proclaimed world traveler, but i ran out of pages..in like my 6th passport….

I think that the OP should give us a definition of what would constitute "blasphemous" music.

This all reminds me of attending Black Flag concert In Pontiac Mi sometime in 80's, same night Pope speaking at Silverdome. I recall thinking how ironic adherents passing the blasphemous adorned with  spiiked mohawks, tats, body jewelry, leather on the streets of Pontiac Mi. on this one particular night in this one particular place, and I get to experience it!

Immediately post-college I dated a woman whose mom was born again. She considered The Grateful Dead to be "devil music". So yes, emphatically!

Just in case anyone hasn't heard the unedited song. All the necessary ingredients for a country song are there...just a little, well...