@thecarpathian People were referencing Zappa.
”If God made us in his image he must be kinda dumb and a little ugly on the side.”
”Who Needs the Peace Corps?” - “Oh, my hair’s getting good in the back!”
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Ugh. This again. I grew up in a country where all speech that was not an explicit threat or an explicit incitement of violence to people or property was protected in the constitution. I thought that was a pretty cool way to grow up. I would like my kids and grandkids to enjoy living in a free society. You know, because living in a free society is better than living in…um.., the opposite of that. |
@pesky_wabbit 100%. |
@bdp24 Danke. I think Frank is often hilarious. I also wish our youngsters took after someone like him who fought for free speech. You know, actual activism. In lieu of filing a complaint with the ADA, pressuring local businesses/institutions to make their buildings ADA-compliant, volunteering for Special Olympics, etc., youngsters feel they are an “activist” for the fight against ableism when they pressure artists to censor themselves and literally change their own lyrics (Lizzo, Beyoncé just this last month) from their mom’s basement via Twitter and Facebook, Cheetos residue caking their fingers and keyboard, because the songs contained the word, “spazz.” Not only is THIS their form of “activism,” not only does it not actually improve the lives of people with disabilities (where fighting to make it so disabled folks can actually go places in the world without inordinate difficulty - if they can attend an event at all - via ADA-complaint buildings would very much improve their lives in very real day-to-day ways) but it actively erodes our sacred free speech. Frank actually committed himself to actual activism, helped keep America free, helped all these youngsters in the future be able to enjoy free speech. I could only imagine the level of condemnation he would receive these days, how vociferous the call to silence him would be. Tragic. |
@bdp24 ”excessive vibrato singing.” Yup. Pretty much sums up how I’ve always felt about Joan Baez. A maudlin, namby-pamby overall tone and vibe, one that was a certain exploitation of a ‘60s trend hasn’t helped me like her much, either. |
@akgwhiz I can’t resist quoting the great Norm Macdonald: ”600 or 6 million, it’s still terrible.” |
@akgwhiz That Norm quote was a joke, and I quoted it as a joke. The joke is intended to mock those who act as apologists for murderous campaigns of any sort. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the statement, “religion is the worst thing ever,” is one that is, “demonstrably worthy of correction.” It is fine to bring up instances in human history where genocide was committed without religion as it’s guiding principle for the purpose of debate. However, thousands of years of stark, indisputable evidence as to the depravity and evil brought upon the human race in the name of religion speaks for itself. We’re in the middle of it right now, in 2022, when publicly elected officials explicitly denounce the separation of church and state, proudly call themselves “Christian Nationalists,” attempt to systematically revoke our individual rights on religious terms, explicitly express their desire to force their religion on our children (forcing them to be born into poverty and destitution because they took away our right to abortion, forcing their religion down our children’s throats with “Don’t Say Gay” bills, calling for prayer in public school, working to keep our children in danger by supporting the NRA over their safety) and Salmon Rushdie is currently on a ventilator and may lose an eye from an attempted murder over a book he wrote 35 years ago. |
@larsman Agreed! Art is not an ideological manifesto. It’s efficacy in what it sets out to do is not predicated on satisfying the totality of an individual or group’s ideological precepts. An artist is not a philosopher or a public leader. An artist is just an artist. One doesn’t like a particular piece? Fine. Leave it alone. Enjoy whatever it is you enjoy. Simple. We can discuss, debate, whatever, but silencing an artist because of their work, work that is irrespective of their real-life intentions as a citizen, is antithetical to the behavior of a free society @bdp24 100%. It can’t get any more hypocritical than that, can it? |
@theaudiomaniac The sanctimonious censorship apologia emanating from the obnoxious, strident, hairdo-challenged head in the video here was neither a “review,” nor was it “tongue and cheek.” It was an irritating idiot trying to say (with no persuasiveness whatsoever) that the song in question is blasphemous, bad for kids, blah, blah, blah…how he’s so sick of vulgarity in entertainment, etc. There was nothing close to a review of the song itself, its structure, its efficacy in saying whatever in wanted to say, or anything of the sort. It was not “tongue and cheek.” The song was tongue-and-cheek. The video here is just a sad little man bloviating like a relic from the 1950s. We’ve all addressed the issue of blasphemy, religion, censorship, and their relation to music. That’s what the thread here was meant to facilitate, and that’s what we’re doing. What exactly are you doing? |
@pedroeb Define “false Gods,” and how such things are “followed,” and define “true believers,” please. |
@bob540 Yes! It’s really as simple as that. No need for mental gymnastics. Why people need to “church it up” (no pun intended) into some kind of quasi-intellectual debate is beyond me. You don’t like it? Don’t buy it. Simple. Done. Happily Ever After. |