Cheapest but good cables….

Yet to try duelund's...my hunch is they are great little wire with that combo celtic66.Got great repsect for his engineering and design.

I've only run the Duelund 12ga single wire with cotton wrap.  It sounds in my opinion great between a Luxman 509X and ATC 20 passives.  Period.  It is in this configuration for my system very open, with great attack and sound stage.  Period. Your mileage may vary.  Period.  Cheers

Thats a descent awg for most applications...i sold off the last runs of 4/12 a while back...im hanging onto my last pair of 7'...and yeah sometimes un/re.

The mogamis are full meal deal (8 awg)...using stand mounts and some of the lowend ive gotten on bass...hs wow.They are not a one trick pony though either.Avoutlet seems to have a bit of furez 14 left fwiw.Like the viablue dressup/tech flex for cables.

@digsmithd

Yeah SCM...furez is a great budget choice.Too bad they are eliminating stock and the 12 no longer available.The 12/4 and mogami 3104 are my diy budget speaker cables i could live with.Mogamis needed to be run in ⏳ but made the difference.

I twisted the 14 gauge wires together which came out to 11 gauge.

Would have been nice to have the 12`s but these sound just fine to me

BTW...Anybody else having problems with constant "Page Unresponsive" notices ??

Yeah SCM...furez is a great budget choice.Too bad they are eliminating stock and the 12 no longer available.The 12/4 and mogami 3104 are my diy budget speaker cables i could live with.Mogamis needed to be run in ⏳ but made the difference.

Hi @celtic66

Duelund DCA 12 is excellent. Run that currently with ATC 20 passives. But not as cheap as Mogami at $17/m from Parts Connexion. It comes as a single wire, so pricing is a bit deceiving as you need calculate 2Xs for one speaker. 2m length each side is actually 8m to achieve. Best of luck achieving your goals. Cheers

I would like to ask how the Duelund DCA 12 measures in terms of sound image wideness, detail and 3D when compared to the expensive cables?

By the way the single wire has a different sleeving than the double wire.

Duelund DCA12GA 600Vdc tinned copper multistrand power cord wire in Polycast sleeving

While the Duelund Dual DCA12GA tinned copper multistrand wire in cotton and oil

In my opinion there is no such thing as cheap and good. Those 2 words do not belong in the same sentence. Good is what works with your system and sounds great without compromise. Cost is what it costs.

Audio Envy. I've been using their ICs and just ordered the speaker cable. Tremendous, open sound and a screaming value with excellent quality of construction. 

Furez FZ144AS 14-4

Here`s a snippet with some information about the cable 

"the primary design features of the Furez Advanced Series In-Wall Speaker Cable are the use of multiple gauge stranding within a rope lay design of high strand count 99.997% OFHC C10100 Copper and the use of quality foamed polyethylene insulation (FPE). The design yields a clean balanced sound".

When I moved my component rack off to the side I needed about 25' Ft of cable per side. Had 8' ft AQ Rocket 44`s before the change and I`m not disappointed.

Very pleased with the results

If you like detailed sound search for cables with air in the dielectric.

Audio Envy for sure! 

@thomastrouble I assume you like the Benchmark gear?

So let’s review what Benchmark says.

https://benchmarkmedia.com/collections/cables

While it sounds like @jasonbourne52 doppleganger is working on their staff, I would assume that they know what to do for people running their gear better than random people opining. And therefore I would suggest you trust them more than you trust me or others.

At some point the ravings need to be tempered. This is from the top of the URL:

NOTE TO HI-FI CUSTOMERS

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And this is from the bottom of same URL:

WE ARE HERE TO HELP!

Call 1-800-262-4675

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Call us! We are here to provide expert help, before and after the sale!

Given you have their gear, why waste time getting random ravings?

@jmac7 I am reposting my experience with Mogami Gold balanced ICs (same goes for Canare tested).   I tried the Mogami Gold XLRs in my high end system between my $9K DAC and pre-amp.  Oy vey!  Yes, they sounded neutral, clean and clear.  Great for recording studios I guess, not for home audio.  My ICs with transformer XLR box and just using RCAs KILL the Mogamis.  The Mogami Gold lack 3D soundstaging, depth and especially dynamic contrasts and tonal splendor.  They are more akin to cardboard cutouts than live, breathing music.  

+ 1 more Audio Envy fan. Fantastic value.

You can check out 

They have a few brands such as Mogami,Canare,Van Damme,Gotham. They are cheap and seem to be well made.I have a pair of the Mogami interconnects and I don't have any complaints.

These are moderately priced cables that perform beyond their price point and just might work well for your specific circumstances:

Goertz Cables & Audio Equipment | Bridgeport Magnetics

I'm not sure if it still holds, but they used offer free home trials. I strongly suggest ordering the RC networks (zobels) with the speaker cables.

I also have AQ Type 8 and Rocket 33s (the 33s used for a biwire experiment), both pairs too short for my current hifi setup but both of those sound great. Morrow SP4s are really nice also and mine were moved to my video rig. I use Canare 4S11s for my subs (easy to make a pair for RELs, and they’re nice cables especially if you can find the braided covered version). The Kimber 8PRs are better than any of these, although the Canare cable works better with Neutrik plugs.

I use Canare Starquad and Mogami IC with Switchcraft and ETI RCA’s in an ESL / analogue system. For speaker cable, consider Goertz, which is flat, and optimal for many magnetic speakers (high capacitance, low inductance). Neither is expensive relative to the name brands.

SVS has some good quality to price ratio cables. Their Soundpath Ultra gives a good bang for the buck. As usual it all comes down to how much you want to spend.  Cheap but good interconnect cables are made by Worlds Best Cable using Canare or Mogami cables and Amphenol interconnects. They are grounded on one side only so they have a certain way to be connected (comes with an arrow on a cloth tuff on each side showing the way the signal goes). 

Another vote for Audio Envy. Only used their power cables, P2 and M3, but they are very flexible and sound fantastic. In my case, they beat $1k power cables that are just gathering dust now and need to be sold.

Mogami lead VERY helpful, giving them a shot at the great price celtic66 shared here.

I have had great results with Canare 4S11 speaker cables and Belden 8428 or 8402 interconnects.

You might consider Vogue Audio speaker cables. A bargain for what they are. I was attracted to the silver composition and their rather outrageous willingness to publish specs which almost no one will or, as I understand it, can. To my ear, they are detailed and quite dimensional; you may be able to follow secondary melodic lines that you couldn’t pick out before. If there is a specific weakness, the bass might be described as “polite” although I would be more inclined to use the term “refined”. Best wishes; if you could try everything available ( and I would love to help you) you could fill up a warehouse. 

+1 @liquidsound. . . . . . I also use Audio Envy flat speaker cables. love em.

I'd suggest Audience , OHNO III

@fuzztone Good call! The Morrows will sound better with more presence and less veiled than the BJC’s as well...

"Just buy the cheapest Morrow ICs that are long enough for your use. They lay flat and are transparent enough."

@audphile1 I tried the Mogami Gold XLRs in my high end system between my $9K DAC and pre-amp.  Oy vey!  Yes, they sounded neutral, clean and clear.  Great for recording studios I guess, not for home audio.  My ICs with transformer XLR box and just using RCAs KILL the Mogamis.  The Mogami Gold lack 3D soundstaging, depth and especially dynamic contrasts and tonal splendor.  They are more akin to cardboard cutouts than live, breathing music.  

Oops, linked directly to product page in the first attempt to post and it was removed.  My bad.

Speaker cable: perennial favorite “budget” cable, Audioquest Type 4 in plain wrapper from Audio Advisor.

Interconnects: Black Shadow available here on Audiogon or Music Strada #211 Interconnects By Nanotec Systems.

If these are all over budget, then other suggestions for Bluejeans cable are no regrets very low cost alternatives.

Schmitt Custom Cables is reasonable, fast and Jim is a pleasure to work with.  He can build essentially whatever you want, whatever level of quality and price.  The website schmittcustomcables.com is expanded and easy to use, but I often order custom beyond what's shown there, all it takes is an email and generally get them 3 days or so.  

I’ll second Triode Wire Labs

I recently purchased and am running a Don Sachs II preamp.  Love it.  Dons' pre amps do not run a balanced out put so I need a RCA interconnect.  Don recommended a cable called Ice Age Audio.  As a cable snob, I reluctantly ordered a four foot RCA IC, let it cook a couple of days on my cooker and then about 200 hours on a second system to burn it in....transferred it to my main rig and was very pleased to find I had lost nothing....micro details, soundstage spaciousness, air around sonic images, dynamics and tonality are all there.  This cable was $165.  less than an after market fuse!  Very impressive.

I think BJC (Blue Jeans Cables) located near Seattle, WA, offers great cables without all the snake oil.  Made in Custom Lengths and they try to source US manufacturers for actual cables and connectors. My go-to cables for decades. I have never been disappointed. 

I have no experience with them, but Benchmark’s own cables seem to be reasonably priced, and are available with their preferred  somewhat non-standard for most residential use connectors.

Actually being used under carpet is one of the features highlighted on Nordost's website. I've used it quite successfully for years.

I have had great results with Audio-Envy cables.  The newest iterations are flat and their prices are very reasonable.  Cap Payne will help you with these.  He's a great guy and I believe he has a 30-day return policy too.  They're the best cables I've had so far in my system. 

Kimber Kable’s newest version of 8PR (their least expensive, incorporating their "varistrand" wire design) cables are amazing...bought a 13.5 foot pair recently and they might be the least expensive speaker cables I’ve ever owned...killer, and great specs for longer runs...flexible but delivering a 9 gauge per leg mojo to the party.

I also vote for Blue Jeans cables.

+1 @macg19

Signal Cable: USA small biz, Frank is great to deal with. Very good cost/quality/performance ratio.

Ran his Silver Resolution Reference’s throughout system for many years before moving on. Kept, and still use all his PC’s though :-)

Frank also customizes for those unordinary applications.

Triode Wire Labs out of NYC.  The owner and cables are exceptional.

+1 on the Blue Jeans cable suggestions, Iconoclast BAV is the next step up in that product line, also flexible; also an excellent value.

holmz    Better be good wire.  Just ordered 24' of it.  Should be fun.  Thanks for info.

Signal Cable: USA small biz, Frank is great to deal with. Very good cost/quality/performance ratio. 

Not sure any standard cable is suitable for under carpet unless designed for that, which Nordost is not.

Blue Jeans, Belden. I have a ton of it here. PM me I may have a length you are looking for. 

Belden (BJ uses it; 10-12 awg) or mogami speaker / interconnect cables are all good.  For Belden 10 awg one (5T00UP), Parts Express is 20% cheaper if you buy the raw wire and build yourslef.

Duelund DCA 12 is excellent.  Run that currently with ATC 20 passives.  But not as cheap as Mogami at $17/m from Parts Connexion.  It comes as a single wire, so pricing is a bit deceiving as you need calculate 2Xs for one speaker.  2m length each side is actually 8m to achieve.  Best of luck achieving your goals.  Cheers

Thanks for all of this guys, a lot to consider!

Many good options given here. Another to ponder is the Duelund DCA 12. It seems to check off all of your requests.

I'm completely satisfied with it in my pretty nice set up having beat out Western Electric vintage, Anti-Cable level 2, and Kimber 8TC shotgun so convincingly I feel no need to look any further at speaker cables going forward.

   LP

Check out the thread Counterfeit Chinese Cables. Look for my posts. I tried one, then another, then another of the Odin 2 cables, and remain absolutely thrilled

Blue Jeans is your answer. Solid product and well built, super reasonable prices. If you want to experiment later when you have some spare cash, you can, but these will provide a good baseline.