my other half and i are back on the pre-c19 concert train, at least locally where they are checking vax status at the venue
seen/seeing various sfjazz and yoshi’s performances -- josh redman, eliane elias, and so on...
went to yoshi's oakland last night, for s.o.'s birthday, had dinner then heard karryn allison and her trio live ... was very nice to get out do something 'normal'... the lovely, wonderful surprise of the evening was karryn's good friend kenny washington was in the audience, and they sang together in the two closing numbers... what a treat!!! |
Hmm? Let’s not cherry pick stats… So Covid is the new kid on the block, it has definitely caused its problems. HOWEVER, we seem to forget that the flu kills an average of nearly 1 million people world wide between its direct effects and its secondary infections, every year. Keep in mind, the flu doesn’t discriminate. It kills young, old, fat, skinny, healthy, sick etc. This is an ANNUAL reality and has been since we knew what the “flu” was. Here’s the problem. It barely gets a headline. We don’t require people to be vaccinated, we don’t shut down the world, we don’t fire people for personal choices, and never have. One must ask? Why? I’m not going into that. The handling and fear mongering of this pandemic is shameful and staggering. Tragic as the pandemic has been, the effects of this, long term, far outweigh the damage the actual illness has done. 2019 worldwide flu stats. Note not a mask mandate in sight, and vaccines readily available. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/ Regarding the question, yep I’ll go to concerts at places where they allow people choose their risk profile… not be forced into compliance. To those that think I don’t “get it”, a good friend of mine just died of Covid complications. My perspective is no different. Every death, regardless of why, is tragic for loved ones. If my friend had died of a heart attack riding his bike, I wouldn’t quit riding my bike… |
Saw two amazing live concerts last week ... 10/21: The Kronos Quartet, who played three world premiers, it was exceptional: https://kronosquartet.org/events/detail/new-york-new-york-46/ 10/22: Solo Chris Thile. My 11th time seeing him since the pandemic started. He continues to improve. Also played three songs I had never heard him play, after seeing him 24 times. Support the artists and venues you love!!! |
This is another good reason why its going to pay off investing in your rig so that in the event you are concerned about catching the new Delta Variant (which is far more contagious and deadly) you are safely at home listening to your system. Concerts are way too risky at this point in time, I had to change my plans as well. |
Got Santana next week, outdoors. Then Mammoth (Wolfgang VH) indoors. Then Rodrigo y Gabriela indoors Then America, the next week indoors That is if none of these shows are canceled due to band or touring support testing positive. I will comply with mask mandates as required. Two football games also - 80k fans Fully vaccinated in April of this year. Will likely get the Booster (and flu shot as usual). Next February Pat Metheny, two indoor shows, two different locations in the same week. Will also attend Warren Hayes Christmas Jam in December this year if they have it. |
Mglik, you're absolutely right. I too would love to go to concerts again, to museums, to the theater, etc. But thanks to the refusal of a substantial portion of the populace to obtain, without charge, vaccines that are safe and largely effective, and to wear masks in public places, these highlights of life, as you aptly put it, are denied many of us, especially older people and those with preexisting health issues. I love live music, but I won't risk my life, or the lives of other human beings, to hear it. And the risk, even to the vaccinated, is not trivial -- it's real. |
What I meant by measles, polio, hepatitis and why is Covid different is that the vast majority of us have been normally getting vaccines for these three and many others for decades and all those and many more have been well under control because it is normal and well accepted to be vaccinated. Why is it that there is so much resistance the Covid vaccine? They were and are hailed as miracles. It is selfish and stupid to not be vaccinated. And why is there so much resistance to such a small and easy thing as wearing a mask? I would love to feel safe to go to live concerts. They were highlights of life. We had such a small window of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Now lost because of Delta and politics. |
I saw Emmylou Harris about a month ago, Hi bob540, How was the Emmylou concert. I don't think I'd want to see her at this point, her voice is too far gone for me. I know that some people feel that a raspy, weathered voice equals more character, but I'm not one of them. I much prefer the beautiful voice she once had. If others feel differently that's fine with me, though, to each his own. |
As soon as possible. Upcoming shows raven vio-lence Riot macabre - x-mas show (we try go every year) Exhumed Cactus DRI nunslaughter. Rose tattoo ,!!! the Casualties LOUDNESS!!! many of these great shows are scheduled during the week, so, probably will not go, up til usually after 12:00 am, up at 4:00 - 4:14 for work, at my age, it’s manageable, but don’t like it, slightly sluggish at work, and I need my wits and attention to be sharp, I’m a heavy machinery operator, many times working around laborers or other tradesmen, being sharp and aware of my surroundings is paramount. Years ago, it didn’t matter, up til 3-4 am,hammered at the bars, buddies houses, go home, pass out, up at 4-ish or 5 depending on how far the job site was, sometimes, no sleep at all, home, shower, coffee, big breakfast, sober up, massive 16+ oz of V8 spicy w few dashes of pepper, sometimes a shot of vodka in the V8 if needed at 9:30 coffee break. Not all the time, once in a blue moon. Getting old sucks. I hope these bands will be around when I’m older, most will not I’m sure. Been a great ride for me, listening to metal since I was a pre-teen and younger. 8 tracks/cassettes first boom box, first incarnation of what I thought was a wicked stereo, it was for a 15 year old, first stereo was a maroon end of bed 8track/fm/am thick felt unit with two slide in/out soft benches. Was a great first 8track stereo as a 10 year old kid. I remember it, because, I had only a select few 8tracks which played continuous all night while I slept. A few were billy Joel 42nd st. ....Styx grand illusion and paradise theatre,...ac/dc high voltage (us version) Kiss destroyer,...few others which slip my mind, few years later my cousin moved, and gave me his box of 8tracks, I still have toe box in the basement. Wow, can I ramble huh? Anyway, will try to hit the weekend shows! if they want that mask BS, I simply not go. Will call the venue to ask, most wil not do the mask tripe crapola! |
Pre-pandemic, my spouse and I lived in Manhattan, and went frequently to hear live music. Eerily, the last concert we attended was in March 2020 at the NY Phil, where we heard soprano Rene Fleming sing a composition by Bjork . . . entitled "Virus." My wife left at intermission. I stayed for an uninspired Bruckner 4th. I remember walking back to our apartment, on Broadway, one of the world's greatest thoroughfares, on a Saturday night at 10 p.m. For thirty blocks, Broadway was nearly deserted. A harbinger . . . . I knew then the world had changed. |
I personally know seven breakthrough cases (I don’t know many people). My doctor knows of ten. One of these was a 18 yo with asthma and was hospitalized for a week. The one death and near death infections were of two unvaccinated people. My partner will get a booster this week. I have not, nor will i soon go unmasked and undistanced. While it is clear the vaccination greatly reduces risk of death. All hospital beds are full… and honestly being sick and or going to the hospital is one of my least favorite things. |
I think we can all learn a lesson from former President George W. Bush’s recent speech in Shanksville, PA... Without doubt,we as Americans all cherish our freedom...past, present, and future...but for that hard fought freedom..it surely always comes at a very high cost! Unity is what makes our freedom great...not derision. |