I saw Emmylou Harris about a month ago, and a friend and I saw Gary Allan on September 10th. Both were at an outside venue. I am fully vaccinated and attended without a mask and sat near to other people. No problems thus far. I don’t ignore risks but intend to live my life. My area doesn’t require masks in stores or restaurants, so I thought it safe enough at this outdoor arena to go without precautions. Only recently has COVID infections started to rise in my state. I am comfortable with what I do, though I don’t plan to attend any more functions the rest of this year.
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A friend and I bought tickets to see Emmylou Harris on Oct. 5th in Santa Rosa CA. Proof of vaccination is required. I wouldn't go otherwise.
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I saw Phish at Dick's Sporting Goods Arena in CO over Labor Day weekend. Proof of vaccination required I wore a mask when in crowded areas otherwise I did not. I would not attend an indoor show currently. And the anti-vaxx crowd needs to stop with the misinformation and distorted facts, it's too late for that garbage. |
@whart , First time I heard him, I thought I was listening to a black guy just crushing it with some ’bayou soul’. And I mean that in a most complimentary way. I feel singers of African descent seem to intone from a deeper part of their soul, and in general bring an emotionally richer nuance to their songs. I couldn't believe that sound was coming from a young white guy who looks like an extra in a high school football movie.... |
@thecarpathian- not that I recall, though I know the song. I was blown away the first time I heard him---actually probably one of the last shows we went to before Covid. And this was the first show since Covid. So, that is an honor right there, I think. Man, he's a great stage presence-- I usually try to describe him as an American blue-eyed soul guy---band was superb. |
@three_easy_payments: I think "what death rate is acceptable to remove all the covid policies?", isn't the key question. The question is, "what is our hospital/oxygen/ICU capacity, including the health and well-being of the doctors, nurses and staff, and what % of those capacities do we need to be at to remove all COVID-19 restrictions and mandates?". It's really a health capacity issue, and then secondarily a financial issue. All of us are paying lots of money to treat those that get sick enough to be in the hospital. Folks with heart attacks, car accidents, etc. are paying with poor care due to over-worked staff and not enough beds. It all about ability of our system to deliver care. |
As opposed to infection rate what's probably most relevant is the death rate due to Covid compared to that of say the common flu. The death rate due to Covid is between 200-300 people per 100,000 population (it varies state to state a bit). The death rate due to flu most years (like 2019) is about 1.8 people per 100,000 population. So the question really becomes what death rate is acceptable to remove all the covid policies? Below 100 per 100,000? 50? I don't know but at some point it's just a policy decision where we decide can just live with the rate and that the cost of restricting lives is now outweighing the incremental benefit of the policies. We all take risks just being alive every day. |
It’s not a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that is what you are told. Look at the numbers in Israel where almost 90% are vaccinated. Look at our numbers from a year ago when no one was vaccinated and compare them to now when almost 60% have the jab. Vaccinated people continue to spread the virus. Too much common sense. You will love this one. Actual conversation at work last week: Frightened co-worker: Did you hear about the outbreak at the other clinic? 85% tested positive! The first and most essential step is to make people unable to believe the truth of their own eyes. |
I have been to 11 live shows from 9/2020 till this week. Hospital grade N95 masks on till I was vaccinated, then off, till middle of July, when it was clear Delta was circulating in my area. The Beacon did a great job not only checking proof of vaccination, for this week's King Crimson concert, but also everyone's IDs to make sure they match the card. So, the risk of having many virus infected people inside the theater was low (there were probably a few though). Combined with a good N95 mask (95% effective) (cloth masks are theater (10-50% eff), surgical masks are made to protect the patient, not the surgeon (70% eff)), I was quite safe. As an MD-PhD scientist with over 40 years of research and clinical experience, with particular experience working on mRNA, I will make a plug for the mRNA vaccines. They are incredible products. Game changers for medicine going forward. They are also super simple at the molecular level. They have less than a dozen components. It's just a piece of mRNA and a mixture of fats that encapsulate it, enabling the mRNA to get inside the cells. As a general rule in medicine, simple has less side effects. Be safe everyone! -docknow |
It’s not a pandemic of the unvaccinated, that is what you are told. Look at the numbers in Israel where almost 90% are vaccinated. Look at our numbers from a year ago when no one was vaccinated and compare them to now when almost 60% have the jab. Vaccinated people continue to spread the virus. From the beginning we should have taken care of the elderly and compromised, promoted treatments instead of vaccines and encouraged a healthy lifestyle. But that never happened. Why? I’ll let you draw your own conclusions. The problem I have is that we have been, and continue to be, lied to by the CDC, MSM, and our own government. So I’ll leave you guys at it to believe what you believe. See how that works? I don’t care if you get the jab or wear a mask (or two) for the rest of your life. I’m not going to force you to do anything and I’d appreciate the same in return. Oz |
We just saw Rhiannon Giddens last week. Proof of vaccination required (and checked). And it was an outdoor concert so we felt pretty safe. From her comments, it sounded like this was her first public performance in a long time. And her partner, Francesco Turrisi had a funny story about how difficult it was for him to get a visa. He had to document that he had an extraordinary talent, among other things. |
After Vaccination: Concerned, not Scared. You can get and spread Covid before symptoms, before you know (or never figure out) that you had it and were spreading it. Any event can become a small or super-spreader. I certainly do not want to be any part in passing the virus to someone else, one or many, I would not go. We went to the Blue Note to see Al Di Meola a few weeks ago, (had accepted the invite months before Delta made things flare up again). The Village was swamped with people, sidewalks narrower than ever, soooo many people without masks. Inside, tables were not spread apart as far as we hoped, luckily we were at the end of the upper level, no other tables adjacent. Servers had to lower their masks to be heard over the music. Talking loud 'in your face' you might say. Hundreds breathing the hours long accumulated air, applauding, shouting appreciation, it definitely could have been a super-spreader event. That was it, we went from cautious normal back to cautious, cautious normal. Then, on Friday, we were informed that a person who we spent 5 minutes talking to the preceding Sunday (in our narrow entry hallway) had tested positive. We had mingled with only family members since then. Except, oh yeah, I got new tires for Donna's car, talked face to face with several employees, then conversed in the small waiting space. IF I passed it to any of them, just one employee or customer: off it goes. And, our family members, all vaccinated, had mixed with ....... We both got rapid testing, two hours, negative, whew. Others who have been around this person say "I've been vaccinated", no biggie, and don't get tested or inform anybody the have been and will be around. I find that so irresponsible. That is scary. |
Ozzy, the flu is a different virus every year, much less lethal than Covid 19, and still the vaccination for that saves countless lives. The only reason that people are arguing "personal choice" is politically motivated misinformation. At this point in time, Covid 19 is a pandemic among the unvaccinated. The vaccines have been proven to be safe and prevent serious illness and death. Anyone who doesn't understand that should spend a few hours in a hospital intensive care unit watching doctors and nurses exhaust themselves trying to save people from dying. I don't understand why it's not merely a civic duty to get vaccinated. True patriots were vaccinated months ago. |
COVID is never going away. We weren’t able to vaccinate away the flu and it used to kill thousands every year (operative =used to). With a 99.7% survival rate, some are willing to take those odds. Don’t denigrate people whose opinion is different than yours. Lets let personal choice win the day since it’s obvious that even the vaccinated are still contracting and passing the virus. So a vaccine it is really not… To stay on topic, everyone enjoy live music whenever you can, no matter your medical history. It’s really none of my business. Oz |
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@mglik Measles, polio, hepatitis, etc. Don’t understand why Covid is any different? Over 90% of all Americans have already been vaccinated against measles and polio. Herd immunity already exists. There are only 1,000 - 2,000 cases per year of Hepatitis A (the most contagious form) - whereas there are 150,000 cases of Covid reported each day in the US. Not sure why this is so hard to understand the difference. |
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