Who is your favorite tube seller?


I really like Viva Tubes and Brent Jessee. I also like thetubestore

Who do you like for tubes?

hilde45

I’ve had great experiences with Brent Jesse and Upscale Audio and REALLY BAD experience with VivaTube (Buyer beware).

If for my Quicksilvers, no one is better than Mike Sanders.  For every thing else, it use to be TheTubeStore and then Upscale, so now down to one.  

For my Conrad-Johnson electronics I have learned the hard way to buy the tubes from Conrad-Johnson.

I’ve used a variety of vendors over the years, depending on their stock. Andy is really top tier in the U.S. but slow and does not handle certain tubes. He is the gold standard. Brendan Bievers was great but his stock seems to be vastly depleted. I think Tube Monger is now gone. I’ve bought some rare tubes from other audiophile collectors who were savvy enough to buy rare tubes when they were readily available. Now, things like real GEC KT 66 power tubes are pretty much impossible to find as never used; ditto GEC U-52 cup bottom rectifiers as NIB.

I run 6h30s in my line stage and finding early DR Reflecktors is nigh on impossible; they are counterfeited and many of those for sale are late production, which doesn’t have the mojo of the early production. 

I buy my amp tubes (except for the 12ax7) from Lamm. I can still get Dutch old stock tubes from Allnic for my phono stage main board (that’s where I use the vintage GEC rectifier in the power supply). 

So-called "NOS" is typically a "pull" and there is a difference-- a true, never used old stock small tube can last a long time- the pulls are good for a couple years, if that. 

If you find a reliable vendor, buy. These older tubes are getting harder and harder to source. 

 

 

I have had excellent results on ebay with many sellers but you have to be experienced, know your tubes and have a tube tester. Incredible deals can be had if you really know your tubes and spend time searching.If you are not experienced then Brent Jessee for used and Psvane for new would be my choices.  
The worst tube experience I have had was with VIVA TUBES.  They sold tubes they claimed were NOS with great test values.  When they arrived they were old, appeared heavily used and tested awful.  They did give me a full refund since I used ebay.  

Brent Jesse has been my go to lately.  He probably has one of the best NOS offering these days.  Upscale and Tube Depot are also good.  I’ve used Viva several times and only had to return once.  But they took them back and refunded me in full right away.  Anyone that has used tubes for a while understands you can get a bad tube from anyone, notwithstanding the testing they say they do.  I just got some new Summit tubes from PsVane and one went noisy after a week. And their new Summit line is suppose to be their best.  They are replacing them though no questions asked so again just goes to show you can get a bad tube from anyone at any time.

Have only used two vendors and very satisfied with both:

  1. Upscale Audio
  2. Tube Depot

 

Rich 

This has been a (mostly) US-centric list so far.  Anyone have any good recommendations for European NOS tube vendors? Thanks!

I've been going to one guy for tube advice and sales since I started doing this - Brent Jessee. I heard about him from others, and I trust his advice and you know the tubes are legit. If there's a problem, he'll get it sorted with a replacement or a refund. 

I had been a tube based audiophile for over 40 years before switching to the Dark Side (Solid State) last year. For me, like many of you, the NOS guy was Brent Jessee.

For new tubes, I bought Sophia Electric Blue Glass whenever applicable. Yes, made in China, and not cheap, but often better than NOS  equivalents.

Expensive but quiet, Wathen Audio Cryotubes. Quieted my Decware phono pre considerably.

 

Not a frequent buyer of tubes, last purchase was from VIVA. No problems.

How many who have purchased Valves have been able to have a Measurement done at their end shortly after receiving the Valve/ Valves to prove the Spec' referred to with the sales info is accurate?

I have got this aftersales support, and have as a result of having measurements taken and learning the Values are quite poor in relation to info supplied prior to buying. Have returned modern production Valves and Vintage Valves back to Vendors who have not known what was being sent, or selected a measurement Value that made the sale have more of an attraction.

Note: I am able to loan through being demo'd Vintage Valves that measure almost perfect as a match in each Valve Half, and this is replicated across the quantity od Valves to be used in the demo'.

As a longer term loan, I have been loaned a selection of Valves that are quite down on the manufacturers Spec' but the loan is occurring to enable the sonic of the Valve to be lived with for a period of time to assist with creating a shortlist.

I can say with total confidence a Valve which is far removed from being optimised near the Manufacturers Spec's for a measurement. Is a Valve that is more that capable of producing an End Sound that is impressive and present a good account of itself. I would also say that in certain proportions of the frequency range a Valve from a particular Brand can't be discerned for showing a great deal of difference, even when compared to the ideal model of the same Valve. In a nut shell, a poor measuring Valve will produce a End Sound, and after a period of exposure to the End Sound produced, attractive traits are able to be discovered that leaves a very good impression.

What really changes ones impression of a Poor Measuring Valve, even if a good impression is made, is when the same Valve is compared to a Valve that is measuring at very close to the Manufacturers Spec's or better and connected to the same circuit. It is only then that the Valve having been lived with for a period of time in the circuit is identified for its poor performance.  A Valve close to Manufacturers Spec's or better and connected to the same circuit, will present with such an increased added attraction that the idea of maintaining it in use is the only one wanted, returning to the lesser measuring Valve is a complete no no.

When this occurs with a Valve that has already created an attraction, there is a moment of jubilation that such a discovery has been made.

Something very similar to the above happened with 300b Output Valves on a SET Power Amp', a cheap Punt Purchase to get the Amp up and running, was discovered to be a 50% Spec when measured, there were a Stop Gap Valve whilst a different New Production Purchase of a 300b Valve was being investigated.

The 50% Spec Valve was showing lots of traits that were considered attractive when the End Sound was being assessed, but it was also detected there was a shortfall in the overall performance. Appraisal from a selection of well seasoned listeners was high but with reservations, knowing more was attainable. When the New Valves arrived, the 50% Valves were thought of as being very very poor, and how had they duped so well as a performer.

How many individuals with Valves in their systems circuits are with full confidence it is actually a measuring Valve that is matching what was shown with the sales info?? Especially id the sales info was showing the Valve was near Factory Spec's.

Second Opinion from another with credentials to qualify their adeptness and evaluation formed, is a very valuable asset when spending monies that are in some cases ludicrous as an asking price.      

Upscale

Brent J

Sophia electric 

 

just had a terrible experience with Fuzz Audio to the extent that had to initiate a claim with my cc before Fuzz refunded my money. Just shyte customer service

 

I'm fairly new to tubes and recently purchased from Jim McShane. Excellent service, careful packaging, and quick shipping.  Haven't tried the tubes yet.

 

Brent Jess, Tube Depot, Jim McShane.

I've had several bad experiences with Upscale Audio.