I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
“Also note that fuses do not have a direction as AC flows equally in both directions.”
>>>>>That might very well be the falsest claim so-called skeptics make about directionality. It’s a Strawman argument. Because one thing is true doesn’t mean the other is true. That particular claim is usually a pretty good indication the person doesn’t know what directionality even means.
Nothing that could not be explained or discovered. Delivering a safe aircraft to the flying public demands that no weird anomalies exist. If it is acting strangely there is always a reason and it must be discovered and corrected.
>>>Aviation safety is much more complicated than whether an aircraft is “delivered to the flying public without weird anomalies.” Please give us a break. I worked for the no. 2 guy in the Office of Saftey at FAA HQ. The FAA communication system is the second largest in the world next to the US military system. The FAA system, as you must know, is a system of many systems all of which interact with each other.
dwstuderman also wrote,
”Being an audio enthusiast since I was young and having been an avionics tech for 32 years including formal electronics training, I really get disappointed when people substitute mysticism for lack of knowledge. Most do not even know how an amplifier works and do not realize that none of the electrons coming from their audio source ever reach the speakers. To oversimplify, an amplifier takes wall current filtered to negative and positive DC and shapes a facsimile of the input signal as closely and accurately as it is capable of doing and sends the facsimile from wall current to the speakers.”
>>>>The number of years one has under his belt is a little bit irrelevant to any argument. Of course the electrons don’t reach the speakers. That’s because, as I commented last night, they travel VERY SLOWLY, about a cm per minute, AND they travel back and forth. But electrons are not (rpt not) the signal. They are only the charge carrier. The signal that goes to the speakers is an electromagnetic wave that is not (rpt not) comprised of electrons. it’s comprised of photons. The velocity of photons in a medium is somewhat less than in a vacuum (universal constant). That’s why the signal in copper wire travels at near lightspeed. It’s photons. It’s how we send information via satellite communications, it’s the same way. Information contained in electromagnetic waves.
p.s. I can only "plus one" as any of my posts are deleted. Presumably this one will be too. And that is probably because geoffkait and cleeds are in cahoots with the moderators.
Even Geoff admitted not long ago that better than 80 percent of his posts are fiction.
And that is probably because geoffkait and cleeds are
in cahoots with the moderators.
I'm not in "cahoots" with anyone. If you have a complaint with this group's moderation, please take your complaint to the moderators.
The responsibility for your deleted posts rests with you. When you promote your $25,000 "listening test" wager that you want to conduct in secret, and suggest others here get a lawyer to "protect' themselves from you, you're subject to deletion. I'm surprised that you haven't figured that out by now.
I’m still waiting for that quote, Mr. Huckster. Is it true that when you lie your pants really are on fire? Check out The Doors of Perception and see if you can figure out who’s the deluded one here. 🤠
geofkkait >>>If that’s true I’m sure you can provide the post where I said it. If you can’t then one assumes you’re lying, probably out of desperation. 😫
Actually, I'll elect not to provide the specific link. My rationale is that you will merely delete it, the same way you delete some other posts of yours and then claim you have no delete functionality. Do you recall my bringing that to your attention?
In any case, better than 80 percent of your posts are fictitious. HINT: another forum member felt I was being to generous, and upped the percentage.
gdhal, I knew you couldn’t provide a post. Because it doesn’t exist. You’re just a big fat liar. 👨🚀 You know, it’s sometimes best to keep one’s trap shut and have people suspect you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. 😎 And you’re giving psychedelics a bad name. 🤪
^As I've stated, 80 percent. And as I've also stated, you have a habit of deleting your own posts from time-to-time. Believe (or not) whatever you - Geoff - like. I'm confident that forum members who have been around here on Agon a while are already familiar with you (your posts) and can easily vouch for the fact that 80 percent (or more) of your posts are fictitious.
@gdhal - You’re lying again. Liar, liar, pants on fire! 🔥I have never, ever gone back and deleted a post from past history. I will on occasion delete a post immediately, you know, after giving it some more thought. Which is something I think you would benefit from considering. You know, thinking. And think it would probably be wise if you deleted most of your posts from past history as they reveal just how deluded you really are.
@geoffkait , since you are correct about the wave thing, and how the signal is an electromagnetic wave containing photons [which are packets of energy (but no mass) that do in fact travel at the speed of light (in a vacuum) but only about 0.7 to 0.9 times the speed of light in a copper wire], then you understand how the water in a pipe analogy often used by audiophiles is in fact "all wet," particularly since the wave travels outside of the wire. Unfortunately, none of that does anything to promote how the "direction" of a couple of centimeters of wire in a fuse can audibly affect the sound of a system relative to
100 meters of primary copper winding in a transformer.
@dwstudeman , thanks for reminding me how much I like taking things apart, such as highly regarded cables and fuses, and looking inside of equipment. It is unfortunate when I find something less than advertised (like the high-end power cord that consisted of three common THHN wires, a cheap PVC tube and some goop). It is also the reason that I am skeptical of components, wires, and doo-dads of any sort that come with any a warning or caution that opening them will void the warranty (or unleash evil spirits, etc.). I would not purchase a car without looking under the hood, but that's just me. It is also the reason I respect the manufacturers who take the time to explain their products in a rational manner (without invoking mystical powers) and actually show us pictures of the insides so we know what we are getting for our money.
mitch2 @geoffkait , since you are correct about the wave thing, and how the signal is an electromagnetic wave containing photons [which are packets of energy (but no mass) that do in fact travel at the speed of light (in a vacuum) but only about 0.7 to 0.9 times the speed of light in a copper wire], then you understand how the water in a pipe analogy often used by audiophiles is in fact "all wet," particularly since the wave travels outside of the wire. Unfortunately, none of that does anything to promote how the "direction" of a couple of centimeters of wire in a fuse can audibly affect the sound of a system relative to 100 meters of primary copper winding in a transformer.
>>>I didn’t say it did. But you have to lay the groundwork. You have to start somewhere. Why not at the beginning?
I have purchased the blue fuses and will compare them to stock when I have the time. I will keep an open mind. I am willing to try because, although I believe deeply in science---- as an older audiophile once said to his young protege:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"
... I’ve also figured out proponents of the impossible are essentially broke.
Why? Because those persons won’t accept your rigged $25,000 "listening test" challenge? Perhaps you should consider that those same people have recognized your proposal for what it is: A fraud, a scam.
gdhal - I'm a proponent and I am borderline wealthy-like Don Rickles was when he died
mitch2 - Go to http://www.groverhuffman.com/home and you will see how complicated a process is to build audiophile quality cabling. It's time consuming and intricate.
fleschler - gdhal - I’m a proponent and I am borderline wealthy-like Don Rickles was when he died
Meaning you are able to hear a difference when ordinary speaker wire is reversed?(i.e. maintain polarity, simply take ends on speaker and attach to amp, ordinary means walk in to home depot and ask for wire to fix your table lamp). So fleschler, can you hear a difference with the naked ear (headphones okay) when that type of speaker cable is reversed?
If I made changes to my system and was confident I could hear a definite difference, I would gladly take gdhal up on his $25000 listening test regardless of his method.
Well, yes and no. It all depends. The best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry. Which is why any test, blind or whatever, is of no value taken by itself. No man is an island. He’s a peninsula. But a test is just an island floating out in an endless sea. 😬 Please note I’m not taking sides.
Excerpt from article in Stereophile Magazine July 2005 by Editor John Atkinson on the dodgy subject of blind tests and the validity of same.
“In the summer of 1978 I took part in a blind listening test organized by Martin Colloms, in which the panel tried to distinguish by ear between two solid-state power amplifiers—a Quad 405 and a Naim NAP250—and a tube amp, a Michaelson & Austin TVA-1. The results of the test were inconclusive, the listeners apparently not being able to distinguish between the amplifiers (see HFN, November 1978). Having been involved in the tests, having seen how carefully Martin had organized them, and having experienced nothing that conflicted with my beliefs, I concluded that the null results proved that the amplifiers didn’t sound different from one another. I bought a Quad 405.
However, over time I began to realize that even though the sound of my system with the Quad was the same as it ever had been, the magic was gone. Listening to records began to play a smaller role in my life—until I replaced the 405 with an M&A tube amplifier two years later.
The lesson was duly learned. Whether or not they can be told apart under blind conditions, amplifiers can have a major effect on a system’s sound quality. And more important, normal listening had revealed what the blind test had missed. I told this anecdote at the debate to make two specific points. First, it demonstrates that my following the then-as-now "objectivist" mantra—that audiophiles should buy the cheapest amplifier that offers the power and features they need—had let me down. Second, it pits against one another two core beliefs of the believers in "scientific" testing: 1) that a blind test, merely by being blind, reveals the reality of audible amplifier differences; and 2) that sighted listening is dominated by nonaudio factors, the so-called "Placebo Effect."
To explain my quarter-century-old Damascene experience, you have to accept that either the blind test was flawed—in which case all the reports that cited that 1978 test as "proving" the amplifiers sounded the same were wrong—or that the nonaudio factors were irrelevant, in which case the criticisms of sighted listening based on that factor must be wrong.”
geoff, "No man is an island. He’s a peninsula." A pretend major slip up by mister Kait. After Bathing at Baxters, circa 1967. Except none of us are naïve enough to think you didn't want to let it slip. Too shy to come clean with your fellow degenerates?
I have not chosen to try to reverse my 30’ long speaker cables due to their location in an underground conduit (pulling them out is easy, pulling them through the conduit is not as easy).
Why would I even bother with lamp chord wire to use for speaker cables? That’s just stupid. I had lamp chord wire when I was a teenager 40 years ago. I’ve learned through hearing, better cabling designs and materials improve the connection. Whether or not they are directional is unimportant to me but apparently it is to you. Go do the experiment yourself Gdhal as I’m not interested.
As there is no direction in mains, as it changes 60 x a second. Only if you sync'ed the fuse to the 60hz mains frequency to reverse it in it's holder 60 x second in syc with the mains frequency, then you could decide whether or not the direction is correct, if at all..
Anyway that doesn’t really apply to gdhal’s proposition
... If those who claim to hear massive
improvements from fuses are telling the truth then it should be an easy
money grab no?
The test is a trick, a fraud, a scam. It's a hustle, a con.
“Anyway that doesn’t really apply to gdhal’s proposition ... If those who claim to hear massive improvements from fuses are telling the truth then it should be an easy money grab no?”
Not everyone is claiming “massive improvements.” Some are claiming massive improvements, at least on these threads, but many claim more modest improvements. Results vary from dramatic to modest, like any tweak. You’re statement is nothing more than a Strawman argument. You know, a logical fallacy.
Furthermore, if you’ve been keeping up with the discussion, the tally of aftermarket fuses users worldwide is at least 75,000 positive, 75 negative, extrapolated data by your humble scribe. That actually doesn’t include the most obstreperous and vocal posters here who have not actually ever tried fuses. Come on, people! Cut me some slack! Who’s telling the truth? Isn’t it obvious? Besides, a blind test that has negative results has no meaning. Pure and simple. You guys don’t get it.
Thank you. I imagine you've read my previous thank you, deleted unnecessarily. You are absolutely correct that the test itself doesn't matter. If you can hear it, you can hear it.
The pinnacle of absurdity and conceit? When for some crazy reason someone suddenly thinks he owns the thread while at the same time most of his posts are being deleted. Wasn’t there a joke about a flea trying to hump an elephant? The height of conceit. 🐘 I see a vacation in your future. 🏝
Again, I’m not picking a side on the fuse issue. If they work for those that have tried them and they want to share their experience on here by all means. However, as I said in my deleted post, if I made a change in my system that made an audible difference to me and gdhal challenged me on it, I would gladly accept it and take his money.
... if I made a change in my system that made an audible difference to me and gdhal challenged me on it, I would gladly accept it and take his money.
No, you wouldn’t accept his money, because it’s like three-card monte. It’s rigged, a con game. A fraud. That’s why the moderators keep deleting his posts.
👨🚀 gdhal ^Remember gk, by your own admission, 80 percent or more of your posts are fictitious.
Prove it. You can’t. That’s because you’re lying. Remember, you’re the flea. I’m the elephant. My guess is you attended one too many Dead concerts. One too many trips to the mind garden. 🌹 🌹 🌷 🥀 🌺
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