Again, nobody has answered the question of why and how these things do whatever fuse fans claim they do. I read the claims of sonic improvement, and those are merely opinions of whatever the listeners think they hear…and that's fine. I don't need to have a manufacturer divulge their proprietary formulas for these things beyond what they've already said (graphene coatings, tesla coil bombing, quantum baloney), just a simple explanation of how they accomplish the "current polishing" or speed enhancement or proton greasing or something. Anything.
The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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Wolf ... Why can't you be satisfied with the knowledge that not one person posting here knows HOW they improve sound? We can only guess at this point. Graphene? Quality wire? Ceramic tubes? Tesla Coil? One thing for sure ... Ted Denney isn't about to tell ya. :-) "A horse well beaten, is a horse well beaten." ____ Anonomous Frank |
Well, I know what I heard using my ears, a level meter, digital recording for waveform and level comparison, and blown SR fuse replacement due to a seeming lack of proper fuse rating, resulting in a conclusion that those fuses don’t enhance anything and are perhaps dangerous. …but all that was with SR Black fuses…maybe the Blue fuses are way better at letting current flow through the component or whatever they do, but I’m certainly not spending 150 bucks each to test these things as once was enough for me, even with a 30 day return window. Regarding cost, my Schiit Loki was 150 bucks and has circuits and knobs and things and actually is an understandable and useful "made in U.S.A." item (and I don't care if anybody else buys one…I really don't)…what makes a fuse cost 150 bucks? Actually, we all know the answer to that one. |
Again, nobody has answered the question of why and how these things do whatever fuse fans claim they do.Yes, we have, repeatedly. At least I feel it has most to do with better quality metals. those are merely opinions of whatever the listeners think they hear…and that's fine.Considering how an opinion is what is formed after an experience, how is that you can degrade it to something as belittling as merely? The same standard can be applied to the other side of this argument. I don't need to have a manufacturer divulge their proprietary formulas for these things beyond what they've already said (graphene coatings, tesla coil bombing, quantum baloney)But you just did at the start of your post. Well, I know what I heard using my ears, a level meter, digital recording for waveform and level comparison,Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first I've heard of you using a digital recording for waveform and level comparison. What were your findings and how much did they differ? The waveform file that was mentioned earlier by another poster (with power conditioners) stated that the difference measured was small but when folded back in, the results were much better. not spending 150 bucks each to test these things as once was enough for me, even with a 30 day return windowI know this is a thread on SR Blue fuses but your not required to buy them as there are other, less expensive brands out there that can give similar, though not comparable results. It would still be better than a stock fuse. All the best, Nonoise |
Regarding cost, my Schiit Loki was 150 bucks and has circuits and knobs and things and actually is an understandable and useful "made in U.S.A." item (and I don't care if anybody else buys one…I really don't)…what makes a fuse cost 150 bucks? Actually, we all know the answer to that one.You forgot Wolf, it also has a fuse that comes with it for $150 and works as good as as these "snake oil" ones for $150. Cheers George |
oregonpapa - ...the naysayers are trying to convince the believers...First, great job on correcting geoffkait. I didn’t want to go there, on account of my posts in this thread are deleted for really no good/legitimate reason. To your point though, I would humbly submit that the naysayers are trying to convey that there is no objective proof what-so-ever that a fuse makes any kind of difference. Any "convincing" is at best in the realm of subjectivity. oregonpapa - They tell us exactly what we can hear and what we can’t hear.And, as we’ve seen by the admission of proponents of said fuses, the "exactness" of what can and cannot be heard cannot reliably be demonstrated in *any* kind of blind testing. |
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maplegrovemusic813 posts04-15-2018 6:40amIt is labor intensive to roll the synergistic sticker onto a fuse . $148 profit each time they put the sticker on . Cha Ching ,Cha Ching . Printing money !Yeah, that's about the gist of it. Cheers George |
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gdhalSame was happened to me on a couple, get in touch with admin as I did and ask why. They got back to me and restored mine and said one of the mods was a little trigger happy, and their looking into it. Maybe he was a "fuser" I said back. Cheers George |
I didn’t want to go there, on account of my posts in this thread are deleted for really no good/legitimate reason.Get in touch with admin, and in my case I asked it wasn't against forum rules. They, said could have been by mistake, regardless they've restored it. They said they would look into it. Cheers George |
^^^ Its not me. I don’t report the posts of others. I think the Mods are keeping a close eye on this thread. Again, I encourage everyone to treat fellow members with respect. _________________________________________________________ A lot of talk has been forthcoming from a few naysayers about double blind tests. Those of us who are using various tweaks such as SR fuses, SR HFT’s, Herbie’s tube dampeners and Tim Mrock’s "Total Contact," need no double blind tests. We can clearly hear the improvements each of the above tweaks provide. At this point the transparency and musical presentation of my system is FAR beyond where it was two years ago when I got serious about tweaking the system. Its FAR beyond where I ever thought it could be. And ... this is without changing any equipment at all, other than Grover’s CD player that replaced my now defunct ARC CD player. And finally ... rest assured, the fuse sales are going just dandy .... and so is Tim's TC. :-) Frank |
Here we go the same "awesome foursome" we'll have the full gamut soon. Just get SR to back you guys, and if they did back you guys up personally with the same sound quality and directionalality improvement claims made here, it would certainly give their product the credibility it sorely needs, instead of leaving it to a bunch no-bodies to man the credibility boat. Cheers George |
uberwaltz - Pretty quiet in here tonight, no silly posts but I guess it is early yet...lol Hi uberwaltz. I'd just like to offer/extend the proverbial carrot to you for a moment. You're kewl in that at least you (unlike some others) respond as a gentlemen. Lets consider directionality for the moment. When I search this term (or related stemmed terms like direction) on web sites that sell fuses, the results that I'm presented with are google maps, driving directions, and mileage calculations. Am I doing something wrong, with regard to searching for fuse manufacturer directionality information? Thanks. |
@gdhal Tbh my friend, I cannot say as I had ever searched for information on fuse directionality. If you had asked me a year ago about an aftermarket fuse making any sq change never mind the direction of said fuse I would have launched so hard my socks would have flew off! It was only after reading Frank's original red fuse thread that I thought why not try a fuse, it can't hurt. And to my ears I heard a distinct difference none of which I can offer any explanation for. Now the directionality came later. I was given a black fuse for my DAC and after fitting it I sat back, listened and thought well, that's flat. A few minutes reflection and I opened the DAC up again and reversed the direction and I was honestly totally shocked. Again I can offer no explanation. So to sum up I had not read about it anywhere previous to in these forums and not sure if fuse manufacturer make any directional claims at all? Not sure if that helps or was the answer you were looking for. |
uberwaltz - Not sure if that helps or was the answer you were looking for. Yes, it helps. Very much so. But I wasn't looking:) Your response is interesting to say the least, and a rather candid testimonial. SR should take note and consider your (and other) testimonials. As you mention that you're hearing differences but have no explanation, have you considered "verifying" the differences you're hearing? We've back-and-forth'ed the blind test, and you stated you haven't tried. Curious why you wouldn't. I would. In any case, you truly have given me something to ponder. I haven't "changed my mind", and remain in the camp that believes "a fuse is a fuse", nevertheless, I respect your opinion and reiterate what I stated initially... you're kewl and respond as a gentlemen. |
@gdhal Due to the relentlessness of you questions concerning testing for fuse directions, I can't tell if you're being too cute by half. You're kind to a fault but you keep asking the same thing over and over. Pretty quiet in here tonight, no silly posts but I guess it is early yet...That was a nice approach, after George posted his usual blather. He needs some new writers or he'll get cancelled by the producers. All the best, Nonoise |
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Which way does a fuse fit anyway. maybe I am ignorant,Spin the bottle that all the fuser’s do. but I always just stuck a fuse in where the old one was.That’s all you have to do nothing more nothing less. a new blue fuse would blow the amp and all my other stuff.They’ve been known to fail, when replaced with the correct manufacturers amperage. The fuser’s say stick a bigger one in than the manufacturers specs if they blow, then x your fingers and pray. Very safe?????????????? Cheers George |
Georgehifi sez ... Its neither one George. I have talked with the dealer I’ve purchased my fuses from and he tells me that SR Fuses are his biggest seller. I’ve also toured the SR factory. I’ve seen the assembly station for the SR Blue fuses. I’m in direct contact with Tim Mrock, maker of TC, on almost a daily basis (we have become friends). I know EXACTLY how many sales have been made. Any more questions Georgie? Frank PS: George ... was there a second shooter on the grassy knoll? |
No 3 where's 4 As I said before: This is all you have to do to give boutique fusing some credibility, just get Synergistic Research (who's an advertiser here) to back you guys, and if they did back you guys up personally with the same sound quality and directionalality improvement claims made here, it would certainly give their product the credibility it sorely needs, instead of leaving it to a bunch no-bodies to man the credibility boat. Cheers George |
@gdhal Thank you for the kind words As I have said before I do not believe in the blind test, pure and simple. I know what I hear, in my system, to my ears, in my room. And I am satisfied that it was MY money well spent. I am NOT here to try to persuade ANYBODY else to spend their hard earned money on fuses. Just reporting MY results and MY results only. |
You just can't help yourself, ya just gotta keep it going, it's you there looking at. It's you, George, not the mods. What was deleted was not offensive. The following post was along the very same line and it's still there. You've just take the low road and make everything personal. All the best, Nonoise |
nonoise, geoffkait - regarding the relentlessness of my questions as you put it, why not ask uberwaltz if he feels the same way about it as you do?It's not how uberwatlz feels about it, but how I feel about it. I'm not defending or speaking up for uberwaltz. You've gone from an aggressive, in your face promoter of betting in order to settle this dispute on fuses to an oh-so-kind and endearing chap who constantly wants to know why one thinks a fuse could do what it does. You asked me in such a manner as to become tiresome so I put a stop to it and now you move on to another, with the same approach, manner and questions. I find it so curious. All the best, Nonoise |
nonoise - ....You asked me in such a manner as to become tiresome so I put a stop to it and now you move on to another, with the same approach, manner and questions. I find it so curious. Hi nonoise. The questions I asked you on 4/13 are entirely different than the question I asked uberwaltz on 4/14. You may recall I asked you the following three questions: How does fuse and/or wire directionality change/effect your "enjoyment" of listening to music? Please speculate, in what way(s) should someone who doesn't believe in wire/fuse directionality, such as myself, expect to benefit if fuses and/or wire is oriented correctly? The "not subtle" difference you are reporting, is this something you can or did hear in a blind test, or sighted? You were kind enough to answer all three, I thanked you for doing so and mentioned (paraphrasing) that it concluded my inquiry, however, that the conclusion was specific to you and I. The question I asked uberwaltz was specific to my search for directionality of fuses websites and being presented with driving information. Apples and oranges if you ask me. |
@nonoise I meant by my post last night of it being pretty quiet in here, with the exception of somebody's nonsense. Now I see the problem, my post where I stated that from now on I would ignore every single post made by George and not entertain any further bickering got removed, probably at his doing even though there was nothing offensive about the post at all. |
