And for those that want to spend 30 x less on a contact cleaner/conditioner that’s supplied to electronic technicians worldwide, here’s the link.
https://www.electrolube.com/products/contact-lubricants/eml/contact_cleaner_lubricants/
Cheers George
The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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Similar stuff different can to the "Electrolube", but only 4 x the price, compared to 30 x the price of the Total contact. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DeoxIT-D-Series-Contact-Cleaner-Rejuvenator-5-Solution-142g/322940597859?... Cheers George |
wolf_garciaDidn’t Ralph (Atmasphere) say somewhere, if you see a audio product that quotes the word "quantum" anywhere in it’s propaganda advertising, run don’t walk for the nearest escape pod. PS: yes here it is, made me laugh. https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1514278?highlight=quantum Cheers George |
Same old rhetoric from the same bunch of "snake oil" fusers. Don’t you think there’d be more support for your >$100 "snake oil" fuses and with directionality from the leaders of the audio industry. The only reason you could possibly think a >$100 fuse could be better is if the old one has seen too many switch-on surges and has deteriorated over time below. Or as Ralph (Atmasphere) puts it, "expectation bias" in spending >$100 for a $2 fuse. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
At least we have hauled this thread back into a semblance of sanity with relevant posts.Never happen, not while >$100 fuse "snake oil" is said to to be so (unbelievably) much better than a quality $2 fuse. It’s a disease in this industry that needs to be stamped out at every opportunity even if it’s just to protect the gullible from those unscrupulous few that push it. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L1VojouAg8E/Vh0U7V3AlAI/AAAAAAADvfY/6D-SJjEJ7FA/s1600/Acerbic%2B02135.jpg Cheers George |
BTW I asked this before. Where is Synergistic Research’s back up comments to all the fuser’s claims here that have been disputed? As I said before if any product is discussed here on Audiogon and the manufacturer is a member, nearly 100% that member (manufacturer) will have something to say to back his product. But in this case, Synergistic’s silence is deafening! legality reasons perhaps?? Cheers George |
I would say they are quite satisfied with their sales so far so again why waste their time to come here to argue with you and err, wolfie??How can you say that, unless your employed by them? And if they did back you guys up with the same sound quality and directionalality improvement claims made here, it would certainly give their product the credibility it sorely needs, instead of leaving it to a bunch no-bodies to man the credibility boat. Cheers George |
I didn’t want to go there, on account of my posts in this thread are deleted for really no good/legitimate reason.Get in touch with admin, and in my case I asked it wasn't against forum rules. They, said could have been by mistake, regardless they've restored it. They said they would look into it. Cheers George |
One of you have a contact it seems to SR's inventory. And finally ... rest assured, the fuse sales are going just dandy Seeing they advertise here just get Synergistic Research to personally post here and back these claims of the "fusers" of transformation of system sound quality and the direction-ability of these fuses. It could only help give these "fusers" and the fuses some credibility. Cheers George |
As I said before
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" If you go back to the OP’s first post and see the differences a "black" fuse did, them maybe multiples into all the equipment, then after that the massive improvements the "blue" does over the "black" then the massive improvements multiple "blues" do. You’ve got to think to your self, that system of his must of sounded like a real t**d before any of these boutique $150 fuses came along. Cheers George |
geoffkaitYou are saying you know more than these guys, and many more. Geoff you and the other "Awsome Foursome" need counselling. As your website testifies. And your "Voodoo Doll" avatar also testifies. http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm Cheers George |
Is "waffle" a down-under term? It’s exactly what fuser’s do to try and prove their point. From the Cambridge English Dictionary To waffel: "to talk or write a lot without giving any useful information or any clear answers" From Google: To waffel: "speak or write at length in a vague or trivial manner." Take your pick they both apply allnoise. Cheers George |
slowikpl There’s a reason SR don’t put obvious direction markings on a mains fuse, because then they become liable, as AC mains has no direction, neither do AC fuses. slowikpl That’s because Audio Research are a reputable company, and they will not entertain the idea of AC mains fuses having a direction and never will. Cheers George |
+1
shadorne If he wasn't such a "savvy businessman looking to make more profit." he'd be a real estate agent or used car salesman. The classic was he changed his ideas completely 180' on preamps just before his BHK Sig preamp was to be released, for sale. Cheers George |
The seller of the SR fuses did suggest going up a value from 1A after I reported the failure of one. No don’t do it this is total BS, without confirmation from the manufacturer of the amp If I can safely go up in value from the 1A fuses I will consider it. . Amps stock fuses are specified to blow just above the amps max spec’d current draw, as to minimise any damage to the amp it self, should anything untoward draw more, the fuse should blow. Any manufacturer will say no to this 1A upgrade, as it’s no longer going to protect your equipment like the original spec’ed fuse would. If the manufacture "hypothetically" said yes and you have proof of that, then he is liable to fix it free of charge + shipping if the amp blows and the 1A higher fuse didn’t protect it.. Cheers George |
ps288 posts12-22-2017 12:09pmJust in: I have received "official clearance" to use as high as 1.6A fast blow fuses in the signal path of my amps. Learning as I go. More later. Yes in the signal path is fine for the manufacture of the amp to say this, as it's a danger to the speakers not the amp. I thought you were upping the rating of the fuse in the mains of the amp, this they won't consent to. BTW: Which amp manufacturer put fuses in the speaker output, very interested to know this?? Cheers George |
More audio snake oil, forget paying $300!!!! for what is basically contact cleaner, get the real thing that all techs use and has been developed by experts in the field. A whole can around $10 and it will last for years. https://www.electrolube.com/products/contact-lubricants/eml/contact_cleaner_lubricants/ Cheers George |
My motto is whatever techs say do the opposite. You’ll be much better off in the end. Good on ya Geoff, real good advice, listen to your leader David Miscavige instead. Cheers George |
Seeing one of my last links to a great contact cleaner and conditioner was removed, here it is again with more careful wording around the link. Save some money, a $10 can of this is just good for cleaning and conditioning all your contacts, do it once a year using an old tooth brush or similar, the can will last years. It’s researched and developed by huge electronic supply company that all audio techs world wide I know of use and trust. And their specs are very creditable. https://www.electrolube.com/products/contact-lubricants/eml/contact_cleaner_lubricants/ Cheers George |
Frank, with respect, if I see you post the word "destroy" in relation to Tim Mrock personally once more, I’ll never order Total Contact whatever the forthcoming reviews. Even though you think you’re valiantly defending your friend and his business. It just comes across really badly. +1 To me it almost comes across professional shilling, with some of the incredible sound improvement claims made, on both cleaner and fuses. Cheers George |
What is the direction of the blue fuse oregonpapa/geoffkait ? You could purchase a fuse direction detector, but they are expensive, maybe all the fusers here could get together and get one and share it around. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/733/882/d57.jpg Cheers George |
chumsusi Look at both the video stats, first I’d like to know why there was a difference in playback volume 63% v 64% (3.8db v 4db)???? And what other difference are there??? before someone records both and analysing them with the right equipment. Cheers George |
do not attempt to discredit the poster with accusations of fraud No one attempted to discredit him, but the question was asked "why the differences in playback level" favouring the SR Blue fuse setup? and was anything else "accidentally" done? as this was not his intent.And you know this for a fact? Cheers George |
Accident or not, it’s taken even more credibility away from the notion that >$100 boutique fuses have a major impact on sound, unless it was a crusty old $2 fuse that was taken out that had seen "too many switch-on surges" and was due for replacement with the same "new" anyway. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
A fuse is like a light globe too many switch-on’s and it will bend, harden, and carbon up the filament, and then one day it will blow, always on turn on. Ever noticed how much brighter the new light globe is compared to the same old one before it blew even though they were the same wattage?? That should tell you fusers something!! Cheers George |
So your saying it was an accidental that the two channels weren’t recorded at the same levels, and nothing else was different? fair enough. As you said " I do not go here often " as your minimal amount of postings show. Can I suggest then if your going to go to this sort of trouble of changing fuses, then recording, and making video’s to do an A/B to get the "gullible" to be swayed one way or another that you do so using proper test equipment to get things spot on. So then there’s no suggestion that the video is a fraudulent A/B and that then be only misconstrued as maybe shilling for SR. Cheers George |
tel55511 posts03-14-2018 11:08amGeorge, you'll hate this, but I'm going to say it anyway. If you don't know the difference between your and you're, then in my book your opinion doesn't count at this level of debate. Really!!, just for interest you got just 11 posts and nearly all are on fuses, your opinion and motive is in question not mine sunshine . Cheers George |
George, please just TRY a Blue fuse for once instead of just decrying them all the time. All you guys have heard is this, nothing more nothing less. A fuse is like a light globe too many switch-on’s and it will bend, harden, and carbon up the filament, and then one day it will blow, always on turn on. Ever noticed how much brighter the new light globe is compared to the same old one before it blew even though they were the same wattage?? That should tell you fusers something!! A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
teo_audio I think also breakers would not deteriorate as much over time with switch-on surges like fuses do. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
uberwaltz912 posts03-15-2018 10:13am Every piece of hifi gear all of you own is designed using science, EE laws and measurements, then it’s listen to and any adjustments made are done again using science, EE laws and measurements!!!! None are done using voodoo!!!! Cheers George |
But tweaks aren’t voodoChanging a fuse is not a tweak, if it needs to be changed, it's either one blown or two so aged because of switch on surges it’s bent up and carbonized. And just needs to be changed with the same $2 one, not a voodoo >$100 one. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
You really are professed non technical audiophile, this has nothing whatsoever to do with audio and it's sound, it's more to do with longevity and resistance to corroding, caused by age and many switch on surges just like this. A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
03-25-2018 8:50amWolf, you obviously made geoff all upset and uppity when you asked if anyone has made a graphene hat yet. Nah, this is Geoff’s style of hat. http://goo.gl/xxuWTt Cheers George |