I haven’t seen anyone mention these two, both in your price range. The Wharfedale Elysium stand mounts is one. They have an AMT & are phenomenal. I really love the Wharfedale sound. Both my older brother & I purchased a set without the other one knowing & we both love them! My other suggestion would be the 805 D4. Looks great, sounds great. I have mine being run with Pathos Classic amps. I like them in their walnut or white finish. A runner up would be Martin Logan speakers, they too use AMT for the top end. Good luck!!!
New house, wife reveals she hates my Maggies- looking for stand mount speaker suggestions
Just closed on a new house and as we were walking through and discussing furniture, my wife revealed she has always hated my Maggies and wants them not to make the move. I have had a semi-dedicated music room, so they were kind of out of sight at our old place, so she never complained. So a bad news but good news (new speakers!) situation.
Present set up is near field, room perhaps 10x10,but partially open, angled ceilings for some pretty good acoustics. Should be able to set up similar size near field space in new home.
Amp is Primaluna HP with 8xEL34, Conrad Johnson ET7 tube preamp, PS Audio Direct stream DAC and Naim Uniti digital ripper/hard drive. I listen to lots of different music, but always come back to acoustic guitar or piano with female or male vocalists, or acoustic jazz. Big soundstage, vocal warmth and detail (guitar strings plucking) are what I enjoy.
My Wife liked (the looks of) my old Rogers LS3/5a back in the day, or my Reference 3a Royal Masters. So I figure I will be looking for a stand mount monitor. But my budget is $5-10k, used or new, so I suspect I can do better than the LS3/5a.
i have always loved the Joseph Audio Pulsars, but you never see them used and the new graphine ones are out of my price range. Looking for other ideas: Sonus Faber are easy to look at, but I have never listened to their monitors. The monitor versions of Raidho and Focals are ugly enough to fail the WAF test.
so help me out here- what should I consider?
Hi, a couple of suggestions 1) sexy look, and Amazing sound, but may be slightly past your budget: MBL 126 Radialstrahler, about $16.3k with stands
2) Great sound, modest looks, budget friendly: Bryston Mini T $5k this is not so small but not big. Put it on a stand and position it correctly, and enjoy!!
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With that budget, I'd consider building the SEAS Thor kit from Madisound. Actually, within that budget, Madisound could hook you up with a cabinet maker and have them delivered to your doorstep fully built and looking good. The SEAS Thor is comparable to the Joseph Audio Perspective 2 at 1/4 the price. |
I wanted Maggies badly but my wife hated their look. So instead, I bought Spatial Sapphire Open Baffles and she likes their look quite a bit. She thought they made our living room look better actually. I'm happy too. The soundstage is wide and the sound clean and neutral. I think my wife would like the look of Monitor Gold and Harbeth as well. Good luck! |
Interesting predicament! Fortunately, you have some great options. Here are recommendations from speakers I’ve experienced: Wolf Von Langa Serendipity+: I recently heard these at Gestalt Audio and they are phenomenal speakers. Definitely worth checking out. Acora Acoustics: outstanding speakers, I’ve been repeatedly impressed by Acoras and they look terrific. Morel Sopran: These good looking narrow floor standers blew me away at a show last year. Superb speakers at an exceptional price Joseph Audio: I’ve heard numerous Joseph speakers and have always been impressed. A safe bet if you can find a great used pair. PS Audio FR5: I’ve heard the bigger FR models at a friends and they were terrific, better than I expected. Salk Sound BePure 1: an absolute giant killer with the terrific SB beryllium tweeter and the incomparable Purifi woofer. Unfortunately, Salk Sound is no longer in business. Boressen X1 or X3: I haven’t heard the X1 but I loved the X3 when I heard it at a show. Coming off Maggie’s, you may like their unique ribbon tweeter. However, they can be a bit sterile and fussy. Alta Alyssa: Mike Levy makes great speakers with gorgeous cabinetry. Definitely worth considering. MBL 126: a very special and unique speaker that generates a holographic stage unlike almost any other speaker. Unfortunately, MBL is in bankruptcy and their fate is in question. Good luck in your journey! |
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Do you really love your Maggies? Are they black? Maybe it's not the shape your missus takes exception to but the color? Perhaps a lighter color would be acceptable? I went with the cream color for my Acoustat 1+1s and while they're still imposing, they're not as "present" as if they were covered in the black fabric. So far neither wife has had strenuous objections... Happy listening. |
Whatever you narrow your decision to, listen to them carefully, hopefully with similar amplification. I am in similar situation where I plan to move to a new house next year, and will finally have a dedicated listening room. I have owned Martin-Logan electrostatic speakers for over 25 years and those will stay in the main room tv/audio system. But as I am considering a second system for the new music room, I have listened to about 6 dynamic only speakers in a high-end music salon, priced between $1,800 (Sonus Faber) and $20,000 (Fyne, SF, etc.). I left feeling underwhelmed. I spoke with a friend on mine that has an awesome audio system with Sound Lab A1's and Jeff Rowland amplification. I mentioned the quandary to him and he reiterated my feelings: that no matter how expensive (he has a buddy with $130,000 speakers and a 7-figure system), he feels he still hears it as coming out of a box, not out of the air. Maybe our hearing is spoiled, or at least tuned, to hearing true dipole panels, which your Maggies would be. Accordingly, I will now be looking closely at new Martin-Logans for my new room. I find them much more visibly attractive than Maggies, so maybe your wife will as well. My wife absolutely love the M-Ls. Take her shopping with you. |
Not easy to find in the U.S., but I have owned both Maggies and Harbeth, and am delighted with my (German) Fink Team Kim speakers. I have owned them for ~7 years now, and have no desire to make a change. I sit about 8 feet from them. They utilize AMT tweeters, are more dynamic than Harbeths, and supply greater bass impact than the smaller ones, yet they also produce superb mid-range sound. My partner and I consider them to be very attractive, as well. Here is a link to a comprehensive review by Martin Colloms:
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If you want a quick divorce, get a pair of tektons. I got a pair of rel t7x because of my small/medium size room, very easy to integrate. If you are going to put these speakers in your living room where your tv is, I would highly suggest looking at the Kef ls60’s. At a minimum, you would have 1 power cable to each speaker and an Ethernet patch cable to connect both speakers. The internal amps are matched to the speakers and if you want to hookup your rels, there’s a dsp built in to the Kef app on your iPhone for seamless integration. I took my wife to look and listen to them and we will be getting a pair for our living room, replacing much more expensive gear. Another plus is the earc integration so you can hook your tv to them. I heard the $40k integrated focals at a show and the Kef’s blew them away, both in sound and in build quality, felt finish for a $40k speaker? |
The PS Audio speakers look intriguing but not sure they’re a good fit for your amp given Stereophile’s measurements, just fyi…
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Well no worries ther speaker is going to sound as magical as magnepans when they are setup correctly. So your question is interesting in that you’ll be going towards a completely different sound. I think if you love the sound of magnepans, then keep them somehow. If you can’t then very good conventional speakers should be fine. I own Magnepans along with conventional speakers along with monitors and I have Electrostats as well. I own also the speaker you mentioned, the LS3/5a. I think this speaker only really shines and works best as near field in a midsize to small room. Also, I have a tight suggestion on this speaker. I have owned many versions throughout the yrs and the internal crossover parts and drivers are different depending on the serial numbers. Only serial numbers 4,000 to 11,000 on the Rogers LS3/5a would I recommend using a tube amplifier. Outside those serial numbers I prefer a Solid State amp. Aside from the LS3/5a speaker, a friend of mine just upgraded his QLN monitor speaker to the $25,000 monitor version. His previous QLN prestige monitor retailed for somewhere between $9,000 to $12,000. His Prestige is available for purchase if interested. I think he asking around $5,000 and it’s a really nice sounding speaker. |
@rbstehno On stereo Rels, and @whitestix on growing a pair (so to speak) l have a pair of Rel T9i’s in my system. I also have a “better half” who has no interest in hi-fi. We both have a house and shared interests but not hitched, or joined at the hips. During covid we decided to decamp in one property to live within the regulations. We talked it through and l set up a CD based system at hers to stop me from going mad without my music. I respected the fact it was her home and bought speakers that would not need a sub. I left my records and decks at my place. Compromise. l can not say for sure l would be still in this relationship if she had said no to me invading her space, but compromising is key to understanding everyone’s needs. The stereo Rels l knew would have always been a deal breaker. LOL
The upside of the story is respect and tolerance proven by the fact the extra hi-fi is still at hers and no issue….. the music l play however is…. Ha Ha! Live and let live but know where the boundaries are. Never settle for less than 50/50 |
If you want to keep your existing equipment and want a stand mount speaker for a small room, check out the new ps audio fr5. Killer speaker. Another direction would be to get rid of all your equipment except for a streamer/server and look at the Kef LS60’s. Slim nice looking speakers that would take up the same floor space as a stand mount, pick your color, blue looked great. The big plus is this speaker has multiple small drivers that will sound much larger, give you good bass, and they use the famous uni-q mid/tweeter driver. I moved to a new house recently and my dedicated audio room was 27x16x15’ tall ceilings and my large speakers were too big for my new 16x12x9 room. I went looking for a stand mount speaker but what I found was that a smaller tower with multiple drivers sounded the best. I added a couple of rel subwoofers and it sounds very good. The rel’s have the smaller 8” driver with a 10” passive.which blend in with the speakers 6.5 woofers. |
For that size of space and from what I can infer regarding your listening habits I would seriously consider the Harbeth P3 (their smallest speaker). I suspect the tubes will keep up with the current demand with no problem at reasonable listening levels. Very natural sounding and easy to place, with their best feature what I would consider a very cultured midrange. Not to say the midrange is colored, but that it is very articulately presented and comes across as clean and natural. |
My partner of 40 years occasionally likes to tease me about all the money I have spent on audio equipment. On the other hand she has recognized how I have worked 60 to 80 hours a week for decades and is happy to see me enjoy some of what I have worked for. We have a partnership where we try and encourage each other to achieve, but to also enjoy the fruits of our labor. Women, no matter how liberated believe the decor of a home is a direct reflection of them. So, they must be somewhat self-aware to recognize you live there as well. I think this is a necessary quality for someone I would be in for a long term relationship. |
This issue of WAF comes up all the time on this forum and amongst my audio friends. I bought a $5K system for a friend and after a year, he had to get rid of it... because his wife objected to the speaker cables on the floor. Man up and buy what you want. The emasculation of adult males is off the charts, so assert your wishes and buy whatever speakers you choose. Jezz, man up, my friend. |
Compliance, or non compliance…… Interesting comparison with the seal (audiophile) trainer (spouse) scenario. The seal illustrated has made the choice? my “listening sound room”…”a necessity in my life” Suggesting a real life call?
OP… “What should l consider?” In this sensitive case, only the OP can make his call/choice on this one.
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I own the Studio Electric M4 , it's a great speaker. So good that zi was thinking about their M5 https://pt.audio/2025/03/01/studio-electric-m5-loudspeakers-review/ https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/studio-electric-m-5?highlight=virtual%2Bimage |
When I hear the term "Happy Wife Happy Life". I see a man who has been either transformed into or chose to become a performing seal. Ready to jump through however many hoops which are held-out. Every time a hoop is held out. Don’t question it. Don’t push back. Do as you are commanded by the one holding the hoop(and cracking the whip). With the unsaid dark insinuation that the holder of the hoop will make the performing seal’s life hell if they don’t unquestioningly comply. "Comply with The Wife: Happy Life. Failure to comply: A Life Of Misery". The performing seals all think this is normal. Anyone can prove my theory. If there is an equal status in the relationship, the seal can order the hoop holder to jump through a hoop. Every seal knows that will never happen. The tables cannot be turned. The relationship is actually a one way street. The hoop holder calls the shots and as long as the seal is well behaved and compliant; Happy Wife Happy Life. |