I like In A Silent Way better! Bitches Brew is high on my list too!
Big jazz fan here! Not a big KoB fan, though. I like Sketches of Spain, Silent Way and Bitches Brew much more. Here’s a few more. Note, that my tastes in jazz (and music in general) is toward more progressive forms. So, YMMV. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme Pharaoh Sanders - Black Unity, Karma Alice Coltrane - Ptah, the El Daoud, Journey in Satchidananda Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage McCoy Tyner - Sahara, Asanta, Extensions Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire, Lost Trident Sessions Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue, Road Games, I.O.U. Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior, Hymn of the Seventh Gallery Art Ensemble of Chicago - Nice Guys, People of Sorrow, Full Force Oregon - Out of the Woods Steve Coleman and the Five Elements - The Sonic Language of Myth, Genesis & the Opening of the Way Mary Halvorson - Amarylis, Belladonna, Cloudward, Code Girl Bruford - One of a Kind
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@simonmoon : +1 for Holdsworth! I have several of his recordings. |
Funny. I was a newbie a very long long time ago. I was shopping for classical music LPs at Twist & Shout here in Denver. I was talking to someone and mentioned I was unsure if I can enjoy jazz or not. Luckily, this guy was the co-owner of the shop, I think. He smiled and took me to the counter and gave me one CD and said, "Take this home. It is on the house. If you can enjoy this CD, then Jazz is for you. If you cannot, then safely move on to something else." Guess what was the CD? Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. That was it and rest was history. I still have that CD which was a gift from a music enthusiast. |
Many greats back then ,reading about them man6 had drug habits I was shocked even in the 50s . Many greats Live at the vanguard , I even go back to Glen Miller and enjoy ,people forget drinking was not considered a drug ,but being part of society. Greats like Mingus , Blakely, Chet Baker ,Sonny Rollins , they all contributed something . I assumed back then Drugs was off limits I guess I was mistaken, the 60s much more so with a variety of mind benders ,which helped in creativity !! |
@simonmoon Thanks for that list. I found some new to me discoveries. |
When I wan t to shock people with how good old recordings sound, I almost always pull out jazz examples. Almost any late 50's or 60's "six-eye" Columbia sounds great (my demonstration go to is Ellington's "Blues in Orbit" which is late 50's stereo and better than most current stereo recordings for quality; the subsequent reissues, even is SACD do not sound as good). Another demonstration choice is Sonny Rollins' "Saxophone Colossus" (a GREAT recording for music and sound quality and it is on available in mono). Old, original release Blue Notes are way too expensive for me to own, but, I have heard them and I like them fore than the premium reissues, although those are still quite good and worth having). |
No, no, no! Not even close to jazz. It is firmly in the prog-rock genre, or progressive music genre. which is such a broad genre of music, with some of the widest variation in any musical genre I know of. While several subgenres of prog are highly influenced by jazz, and may even be as much jazz as prog, Mike Oldfield is certainly not. For example: the Zeuhl subgenre of prog, started by a drummer, Christian Vander, who idolized John Coltane. And that core of jazz tends to run through many bands that are in this subgenre. Or, the so called Canterbury scene of prog, has much in common with jazz fusion. |
I don't much like 'jazz', but I do like Miles Davis's early 70's stuff, as it doesn't sound to me like 'jazz' and it's really interesting music to me. Much of it reminds me of Grateful Dead space jams (and I've seen Branford Marsalis and Ornette Coleman jam with the GD a few times in Oakland). I got that Vinyl Me Please box set of 'Miles Davis - The Electric Years', and that is perfect for me. Herbie Hancock's 'Crossings' is like that too; doesn't sound like 'jazz', just 'music'. |
I am gathering that the reason why you are saying you don't consider early 70's Miles and "Crossings" jazz, is because they don't sound like all those 50's post bop jazz recordings, that seem to have become the mainstream music listener's entire idea of what jazz sounds like. Jazz is not a "style" of music that has a certain sound. It is a way of thinking about music, using sophisticated musical vocabulary, spontaneous composition ability, amazing levels of musicianship, musical communication with musicians while playing, etc. Make no mistake, those early 70's Miles recordings and "Crossings", are most definitely jazz. The musicians are all using jazz techniques, the vocabulary of jazz, jazz improv, etc. There are subgenres of jazz, that sound even less like the jazz most people think of when they think of the "way jazz sounds", than those 70's Miles recordings or Crossings. Chamber-jazz, M-Base, avant-garde, fusion, jazz noir, just to name a few.
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@simonmoon This, “No, no, no!” business, this “(Tubular Bells) is firmly in the prog-rock genre, or progressive music genre” business, is all a bit much. |
Walt Dickerson an underscored musical genius with Sun Ra as sideman... Sun Ra did not accept often to stay a sideman save with a genius...😊 ... But Sun Ra do it again as full partner this time with Dickerson in "Visions" album a less easy album to appreciate but my favorite...
Interesting article critic from amazon which i concur with : |
I did not bother myself with labels anymore... Music is done by musicians ... Labels are only useful to use on a wall to class the cd or vinyl by countries and era .... For sure if we write a book about jazz for example, labels will appeal decisions about what we must put in the book at which place or not... i dont write book about jazz then... labels means little for me ... 😁 When i was young "labels" mattered much for me because i excluded most labels genres 😁... I was "snob" i guess... But after 40 years i begun to listen out of my innate taste (choral music before Bach mostly ) even jazz, eastern music and all eras in classical... I discovered that my innate taste was limiting me , that music is done by musicians. it is not a written matter not a labelling matter. it was about each individual musician uniqueness gesture playing... i am less snob now than i was once ... Less ignorant too ...😊 In my next life i would want to be a musician ... 😊 Probably poor ... |
These are in no particular order: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue, In A Silent Way, The Complete Bitches Brew Sessions, Nefertiti, Filles De Kilimanjaro John Coltrane - A Love Supreme, The Complete Africa Brass Sessions, Coltrane’s Sound, Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles Sun Ra - Angels and Demons at Play, The Nubians of Plutonia Cassandra Wilson - Blue Light Til Dawn Don Cherry - Brown Rice Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda Wayne Shorter - Juju Stan Getz / Charlie Byrd - Jazz Samba
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@simonmoon - Miles did not like the term 'jazz', at least for this; as he said, it's 'music'. |
Miles Davis: Kind of Blue, Miles Smiles, A Tribute to Jack Johnson John Coltrane: Giant Steps, assorted tracks from LP's Mahavishnu Orchestra: The Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire Oz Noy: Live in Asia Jim Hall Trio: Live! Bill Evans Trio: Complete Riverside Recordings Gary Burton and Chick Corea: Crystal Silence |
Appreciate everyone’s recommendations! @mahgister Always enjoy you sharing your experiences and music suggestions! @tostadosunidos Crystal Silence is a classic! I will add the French jazz pianist Claude Bolling as one of my favorite musicians. |
Duke Ellington: A Drum Is A Woman |
This is an incredibly tough question, given that jazz varies so much. KOB is obviously a classic, of course, as is Take Five. But my go-to morning coffee recording is Bill Evans Live at the Village Vanguard -- a masterpiece. I am also a vibraphone nut, so I love Gary Burton, MJQ, and Lionel Hampton. Wes Montgomery for guitar, and sax . . . Lester Young (especially his 50's recordings, which are maybe not his peak, but are very well-recorded), Ben Webster, Stan Getz, just too many to name here. But for all you Jazz aficionados, if you haven't listened to The Sound of Jazz, which is a soundtrack for a TV show that is available on YouTube and is available as a Blu-Ray CD, you absolutely must. That is an all-star cast, including Billie Holiday and Lester Young. It is EPIC, both as just audio and to actually watch the show and see them play! The soundtrack is slightly different from the show, as it was recorded a day earlier, but both are stupendous! |
Kind of Blue Somethin' Else - Cannonball Adderley (in my mind a Miles album-I keep it with his records) Coltrane - Ballads, Plays the Blues, Giant Steps Sonny - Way Out West, 4 Stan Getz - Stan meets Chet, Getz Giberto, Jazz Samba Milt Jackson - Bags meets Wes (Montgomery), Django (MJQ) Wayne Shorter - See No Evil Jimmy Smith-Wes Montgomery - The Dynamic Duo Pat Martino - El Hombre Pick an early Paul Desmond (Time out - even though Dave Brubeck leads) Tina Brooks - True Blue, The Waiting Game Dexter Gordon - Go Miles - Round About Midnight or any from his first Quintet (Relaxin', Cookin', Workin', Steamin') Pat Metheny Group (Self titled), Offramp (except the first song) These are ones I am psyched when they come up next to play in the rotation....
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Especially in the ‘45-‘75 chronological range, there is an enormous amount. |