The two best documentary i ever seen on jazz is the Pat Martino recovery documentary and the film documentary about Chet Baker ...
Astounding videos i listened two times...
if someone had not seen them he must stop and see ...
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Kind of Blue
This was the first Jazz CD I ever owned. I currently have over 200 Jazz CDs and Kind of Blue is still #1 on my list.
What are your favs?
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KOB is like the 4 seasons of Vivaldi ... I never encountered someone who disliked these two pieces in my life ... I dont like people who dont like animals cats or dogs... I will not trust someone who will trash KOB or the four seasons in an audio thread as uninterestings pieces ... ☺😊 But i like as much many others musical masterpieces ... There is others as much interesting jazz albums in relatively great numbers as the 4 seasons... This fact do not decrease their value ... There is much musical geniuses than we can count on our 20 fingers ... i have 50 numbers one album on my jazz list ... The same in classical... The same in indian music or on my Persian list ... Only in these four styles i had then 200 albums as number one album ... 😋 An album i will put beside KOB for me and my listening habit is Pat Martino "formidable" : but i could had put 50 others .... As my dear Walt Dickerson and Sun Ra two albums together ....
But this is my taste... KOB is way more influential for evident musical reason and timing moment in jazz history ...
Oups! i just put it on my system and as usual i cannot put Pat Martino under the rug... As someone putting KOB cannot stop it playing ... A good test ... It is the same for Vivaldi ...
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Frogman is right labelling not only is useful but inevitable anyway...😊 We cannot censor labels use or worst forbid them only correcting them in a way they dont put an artist in a drawer created by the mapping of some musical factors and not by some others we did not picked.. For sure labelling do not replace reality... The maps are not the territory ... There is no debating here ... Only a simple distinction ... The way we describe the artistic gesture and the gesture itself when we hear it ... Larry Young with Joey de Francesco are my Hammond idols ...😊 Thanks to Frogman recommendation for Larry Young ...
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A great acoustics/musical understanding revolution is in the making! It seems that the separations between genre as classical music for example and jazz on the other side , or any other classification by genres is less truthfull to music than the distinctions born from the way each instrumentist use his instruments in his own traditions ... Here from the mouth of the beast :
What complement this amazing findings is this one about the universal way we can map music perception on the body sensations nevermind the difference between cultures : https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2308859121
No culture win over the others, any great musician is a world in itself and all musical sensations are mapped on the human body in the same way irrespective of the genre , style or specific cultures... Musician and their instrument rules music because they rules our body trough the way they rules their own body when playing , not genres or specific cultural styles... Classical is not superior or inferior to jazz or ragas or tar Persian artistry ...
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I already admitted that this is practical... Labels are inevitable...😁 I class my music by names of composers and very large denomination : classical and Jazz and Arabic , Persian And Indian and South America and chinese and others ... I never proposed to trash Dewey... 😊 I only said that labels with too much sub-sub-sub labellings too much details like the 60 possible jazz genre distinctions are less useful than names of musicians for me and in a way restricting passed some threshold ... General classification of jazz by years and era are enough for me ... Once this is said i can understand why some musician can hate labelling ... No poet like to be put in a drawer... |
The usefullness of labels is evident for classyfying music files by genre, instruments, names, countries, eras etc ... But in my musical habits they means no more... Only the musician name count and had real value ... The point is over any useful labels only the musicians matter as musicians... Jimi Hendrix as Bach is a musician... The best and more useful labelling if we keep only one is the musicians name ... For me...
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I did not bother myself with labels anymore... Music is done by musicians ... Labels are only useful to use on a wall to class the cd or vinyl by countries and era .... For sure if we write a book about jazz for example, labels will appeal decisions about what we must put in the book at which place or not... i dont write book about jazz then... labels means little for me ... 😁 When i was young "labels" mattered much for me because i excluded most labels genres 😁... I was "snob" i guess... But after 40 years i begun to listen out of my innate taste (choral music before Bach mostly ) even jazz, eastern music and all eras in classical... I discovered that my innate taste was limiting me , that music is done by musicians. it is not a written matter not a labelling matter. it was about each individual musician uniqueness gesture playing... i am less snob now than i was once ... Less ignorant too ...😊 In my next life i would want to be a musician ... 😊 Probably poor ... |
Walt Dickerson an underscored musical genius with Sun Ra as sideman... Sun Ra did not accept often to stay a sideman save with a genius...😊 ... But Sun Ra do it again as full partner this time with Dickerson in "Visions" album a less easy album to appreciate but my favorite...
Interesting article critic from amazon which i concur with :     |
