While they are not yet highly regarded amoung the Golden Ear crowd here(YET),Advance Paris has an entire line of all in one solutions & they have been garnering accolades world wide..
I have just today received the "MyConnect 60" Amplifier/Receiver/CD Player/Streamer/DAC/Headphone unit(in the Gloss White as shown)..I swapped out my SimAudio 240i today with the MC60 to get some run in time on it while waiting for the new speakers it will be driving in my bedroom system..
SUPERB little(10.5" wide x 15.25" deep x 5.5" high @ 12.75lbs.)Swiss Army knife rivals the SimAudio in every parameter!It has been driving $6500.00 Harbeth M30.2Xd’s all day,playing every type of music from Baroque to Classic Rock to Reggae to 80’s Alternative & I have to say I am VERY impressed!!!The Wolfson DAC has a beautiful,organic tone that sounds wonderful through the Harbeths & should really sing with the Quad 11L speakers incoming...
As fantastic as this entry to Advance Paris all in one units performs, I imagine the top of the line models are probably GIANT KILLERS!!!
PS:ABSOLUTELY LOVE the fact that it has UNIVERSAL input voltage,switchable from 120/240 volts,so if my job in the Philippines comes through I can take it with me which I could NOT do with the SimAudio!
All-in-One units for retiring audiophile & music lovers in 2025, say what?
A good audio buddy friend closing in on his later parts of the golden years contacted me over the holidays. He started talking rather excitedly about these new all-in-one units. [Please disregard if this is nothing new for you and/or not of any real interest]. This story and ask below might not resonate with some. Hopefully others who can relate might reply, understanding a lot of what this is really about. A winding down audiophile friend, looking for simplicity of listening to music is what I can share up front.
I found my audiophile friend's [all of the sudden] inquiry interesting, me asking what he's looking at buying - say what?, and starting to ask him "does it sound good, look good, is it light weight or heavy, could you see it replacing everything as your new center piece in your big room, and all the other stuff gone - really?", "Say more". He started to share more. Please read on if any of this is resonating, Thanks.
We start talking and reminiscing about our early Go-To receivers from the mid 1970s. The big all-in-one boxes. Wider cases, big transformers, powerful, weighty, great FM tuners, tone controls, Big Stereo Sound. How it was back then - simple to listen to FM, big roller dial, plug in your turntable, tape decks, and enjoy the music for days. No other worries, let it play. Remember doing that? I bet many members here on Audiogon lived all of that too, and none of us will ever forget it. I won't.
I also bring this up because It dawned on me, I started asking myself wow - is this really occurring all over again in some new and exciting way. Like a giddy kid I start researching with him seeing more - woah, what? I did realize some of this [sort of an era renewal] was already occurring past few years, still not quite aware myself of what's out there, or coming back, maybe puzzled a bit and curious.
Seeing more videos, familiar reviewers, all touching on this topic past 1-2 yrs. Then you see some of the same new units popping up with all of the reviewers, hmmm.
So my fairly extreme multi [tube/amp/component] audio buddy [past 60 years] starts showing me these new generation [mostly] solid state units he's been looking at, seemingly ready to hang up ALL of the separate components. Says he simply wants "one box" now to "do it all", "getting rid of all this other stuff", to just "play music" and "be done". These were his exact words recently. Some may relate here. It kinda hit me. Something to be said for simplicity and just listening to music. Yes.
Next Generation -
Looking closely at these new units with my friend - seeing somewhat old-familiar design approaches, renewed, by real engineers. Ahhh, hey, there we see big transformers, a stout amplifier section, nice capacitors, thick copper wiring, big screws on power caps, robust binding posts, nice built in DAC, built-in streamer with tons of access, yep - tone controls, loudness control, low noise, meters, lighting - hmmm what's going on here. I soon realized I too need to pay attention and look around more closely - to see what he's really looking at and why. It starts to make a lot of sense, it's coming into a focus, just like the '70s era receivers were.
Fast forward a few weeks - Buddy just ordered his new all-in-one unit, maybe downsizing speakers. He's dropping back down to a new/familiar 70s style midsize speaker as well. He was initially anxious, a little nervous maybe, wondering - and decided to just go forward and "not look back" he says. Some of you may already be well down this path, or even doing this in 2nd, 3rd systems now. The whole thing is sort of a throwback [in some ways] to me, sort of what it use to be like 50yrs ago. Or feels that way to me. They say great ideas recycle back to themselves. Maybe so. Observing closer now.
Wow, wouldn't it be really cool if it could be all done really well, in one-box, once again? No more separates component listening - just hit the power button one time, turn up the volume, and let it play in the big room, listen, walk around, no worries - just let it play for days on end. I bet many here totally get why I posted this. It's for an audio friend.
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Please share your story. It would be so cool for him to read any of your stories. I know he would be interested and appreciate your wind-back consolidation journey too - if you have one like his to share in some way. Particularly those who've made great strides towards major consolidation and still enjoying the music. Dear buddy is starting the journey now to separate himself from his vast array of separates, lots of stuff, selling everything else soon, and going back to "one box" for simple music in the big room. I'm supporting him along the way on this particularly journey.
Thanks a million in advance for your replies - care to share your familiar story at all?
------ Great find! I remember reviews on this one. Worth posting a few pics for sure. Power:
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Some adjacent notes on UMAC amplifier technology, from another integrated they sell, and may be related to this amp too.
https://audiogroupdenmark.com/product/axxess-amplifier-forte/
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+1 Cabasse Rialto - heard it twice at audio shows, many commented it seemed “underpriced” because of its great sonics and surprisingly deep bass from such a small speaker. In high-end audio, it’s difficult finding quality DAC in an integrated, much harder still finding one with a built in streamer. The Naim Unity may be your best all-in-one bet. Other options with a good Sonic DAC but will need an external streamer: Hegel H400 (has newer DAC), Asthetix Mimas, or Mola Mola |
A few years back before I retired I sold my very nice Conrad Johnson tube separates along with some large floor standers and bought a SS integrated. I combined it with some monitors. Source remained vinyl at the time. Not really sure why I did it other than reading threads like this and other articles saying you could attain the same sound quality with a lot less. So I figured what the hey, I can be practical too. Of course encouragement from my better half was no help. It didn’t take long before I was back on the merry-go-round though. Now years later I’ve got more than I had before I retired. Plus I have a vacation home as well and even though I’m only there periodically find that my system there also has to compete. Since retiring I did sell my analog rig and records, but have found that a digital source and all that goes with it can be a bigger money pit than vinyl. I think I’m on my 5th DAC and 4th streamer. What can I say other than I guess I’m still an audio fool at heart, just several years older. Maybe I just need a different (and cheaper) hobby. Used to be sex, drugs and rock n’roll. Now just have to settle for rock and roll, lol. |
@asvjerry Yeah it was a fire followed by Fire Department induced flooding, All the flooding did was save items in good enough shape to identify what they were. Of course, not all things were identifiable since the garage burnt to the ground and left nothing but rubble. The fire was plenty hot enough to melt aluminum, fueled by chemicals and gas and propane and lets not forget the oxygen and acetylene bottles....yeah it was pretty intense. Lost two motorcycles and a ton of tools and equipment related to racing, plus one car burned...my insurance is now nearly unaffordable. So to say we are pretty unhappy with the situation is a fair understatement, and the lack of cooperation from ins. co. is off the charts. No joy or fairness there at all. Cannot say everything I would like to since it is an open unpaid claim so far. @decooney Yeah I have the time to do the research and make decisions based on reasonable educated guesses now. Its going to be a lengthy process and in some ways I am dreading the length of time it will take to get things processed thru to a point I can sit back and enjoy them again. I'm a long ways away from that at this point. I'm guessing I will still be in process a year from now but that is just a guess. You have what I had but the list of whats left in the aftermath of the fire is heavily truncated. Very little was saveable. I was in an enviable position of really liking what I had and so much so, I wasn't looking to upgrade anything except maybe the TV in the theater room. Other than that I was fairly happy with what I had and how it worked. Thanks for your interest and comments. Much appreciated. |
To @livinon2wheels understood and I'm helping a few friends staying local that is. To your point, you pretty much have to demo things these days anyhow to know that it's a good fit or not. Agree about crazy drivers on their phones and driver assisted cars with people falling asleep at the wheel - good grief. Good for you for making this a best practice in your own home and you have time to do it which is important too. I'm about to consolidate some more myself, have a full 5.2 home theater system, along with my main 2 ch audio system, along with secondary amps and preamps and stuff like that. It will be tough to part with things that I have now and the only way to know is in-home demos for sure. Thanks for the reply. Take it easy. |
....I could 'nightmare up' some outrageous options, but the budget goes *FOOM!* Yeah, I'd like to win a Lotto. No, don't bother to call, email, or show at the door.... Check for staples in your underware...;) Paranoid?,,,,perhaps... Deviant? Yes. |
@livinon2wheels *mmm*...'insurance company'....caught in flood or fire? Bad form, that....;) Lots of options when rebooting from scratch, but can make one crazier.... Heretic I is, running a distribution amp for some of the drivers, while having a separate receiver or so driven by source into the tape loop(s) and just using just the amps....for that which wants MORE...can pick the watts per driver type and size. If one can 'tolerate' less than SOTA at some locations, opt for more 'garden variety' cables...save the SOrTA for the more 'important space(s)', and send only source to where one could have an intergrated (or not) D and the speakers there. Go HDMI, optical.....whatever one can squeeze out of insurance granite... Hard to convince suited strangers that things musical are important to This Client. Very happy that Helene left yours unruly and spouse with ringside seats without the blood or the boxer... "Another fine mess...." >>>Refraining from the political issues 'n all that swirl around 'clean-ups' and all involved with such. Let's continue to have some fun for a change, *huh*? ;) 👍<<< |
@decooney Hey thanks for the kind words. We have no local 'real' audio dealers unless you count best buy, sams and walmart. No real source of serious gear. Everything that steps up to serious gear is multiple hours away from me. And I just cannot make those kinds of road trips now. Too old too tired and too many other things to manage while the house is being rebuilt. ARGH. I would love to have a local B&M store to visit and ultimately support, but its totally off the table. I will only buy major ticket equipment from sources that offer a home trial with the ability to return if its unacceptable. That will surely limit my choices, but in my biosphere, traveling 3-4 hours to visit my audio dealer is unacceptable. I don't enjoy driving much anymore. At least not in traffic with distracted drivers more interested in their cellphones than actually driving their car. No thanks, I will stay at home where I am less likely to die in a preventable accident. @asvjerry Hi Jerry, thanks for your insights. And yeah, revising the approach thruout the house is an ongoing project. I want good video capability in any room except the kitchen. For office space, I am considering a wall mounted TV that I can watch videos or live tv on in addition to a desktop monitor with good quality 2 channel audio. This becomes the practice room for the trombone and bass guitar as well and provides a decent ( I hope ) listening environment separate from the theater room. My wife often wants to watch things that I have no interest in seeing and having my own refuge in my office that gives decent sound and relatively immersive video would be a great solution to differing tastes in programming. So the office becomes listening room, practice room and substitute TV room. I can downgrade from 5 to 2.1 channels with minimal suffering in that space. I might change my mind later but for now, 2.1 seems adequate. That way I can close the door and work or play or relax and not worry about my wife doing her thing in the theater room. The kitchen will likely be powered from the main theater room system with its own amplifier. And possibly the garage too, though I am inclined to do bluetooth from my phone to a stand-alone system there. Still working on solutions that offer the most flexibility without breaking the bank. Part of all this depends on how the insurance company is to deal with. So far we have found them not to want to play nicely, so until we can get a sense of what their bottom line really is, all plans are in a serious state of flux. |
Update - I’m the OP, and this thread was posted for a friend who is winding down from a collection of SET, PSE, pentode tube amps, tube preamps, fair collection of tubes, speakers in transition, and more. He started out the search with the Naim Unity Atom and soon to be trying out the new Yamaha R-N2000A all-in-one streamer amplifier. Fits the bill for a new room move that’s not optimized for audio. Has minimal room correction, bass/ treble tone controls, loudness control. All he wants and needs for his winding-down front room system. Moving to the main family room, not ideal, best he can do and consolidating. Might be picking up some 3-way Wharfedale speakers next, and stands for fitment. A small tube system for the office and that will be it, Roger That, over and out. If the new all-in-one system goes "good enough", the collection of 1-3 yr tube amps, tube preamps, all the tubes in tubs, and recently new horn speakers all goes up for sale in a few months on USAM, or Agon, and/or eBay next. He’s trying, needs to, and while not overly thrilled with all of it appreciates the help so far. Thanks! |
Yes, only Linn Majik has the amplifier and it is a an all-in-one integrated amp. Majik is the entry level series in Linn products. Klimax is the flagship or top of the line series in Linn products. Yes, the Klimax DSM sounded fantastic but it’s expensive. I think the current model of Klimax DSM currently retails for over $40k new. You can bypass its preamp section (volume control) and use it strictly as source component as a streamer/DAC and connect it to an external separate preamp. I once heard the Klimax DSM in an all ARC setup where the Klimax DSM was used strictly as source (streamer/DAC) only and was bypassed its preamp section. The Klimax DSM then fed into an ARC REF 10 tube linestage preamp, which is an ARC flagship linestage preamp, which then fed into two pairs of ARC REF 75SE monoblock tube amps in bi-amping configuration driving a pair of Sonus Faber Aida ll speakers. Wonderful setup. FYI, the Aida ll speakers can be tri-amped. I’ve also heard the Klimax DSM in all Linn Klimax setup and system and they were also fantastic sounding. But since OP was asking for an all-in-one integrated solution I think the Naim Uniti Nova would be the best option if he’s willing to spend that kind of money. Of course he can look for a used Uniti Nova which can be had lot cheaper than new. I’ve heard the Nova multiple times hooked up to different speakers each time and I loved the sound of that Naim. I’m a fan of Naim. The Uniti Nova crushes the Linn Majik DSM all-in-one integrated amp sonically but is also quite a bit more expensive than the Linn Majik. . |
I highly recommend the Naim Unity Nova all-in-one integrated amp. It’s got streamer/DAC and integrated amp all in one unit. All you need is a pair of speakers. It sounds very musical. The original Unity Nova (original version) currently retails for around $7k ish. The newer Unity Nova PE (newer version) retails for $10k. ghdprentice recommended Linn Klimax DSM earlier but the Klimax DSM doesn’t have a power amp. It’s only a streamer/DAC with built in volume control (preamp) but the the volume control or the preamp section can be bypassed and use the Klimax DSM strictly as a streamer/DAC (source component). The OP was asking for an all-in-one integrated amp (all-in-one unit). The Linn Klimax DSM wouldn’t do it since it doesn’t have a built in amp. The Klimax DSM is a very musical wonderful sounding unit and is one of the best sounding streamer/DAC in one unit combo. and it’s very expensive but the sound quality and musicality is top notch. |
Quite interesting, these Dutch & Dutch truly demonstrate the art of the possible when it comes to all-in-ones, consolidation. and they reportedly "sound great" too. As for sound, IIRC you are not the first person to mention this, another colleague here on Agon mentioned these to me a year ago and howe they sound. Hmmm. Subs too !?!:
True All-in-One concept:
Self destruction, Warranty coverage considerations: ???
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decooney It is a lot, and they are not cheap at $15,000; but for an all in one box and for speakers that really deliver.....the Dutch and Dutch are a really good solution. I (nor any of my audiophile friends own them), but the have really impressed me the handful of times I've listened to them at shows. Not sure it matters to anyone (other than me), but they also support the BACCH plugins |
That's a lot packed in two speakers.
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@decooney thx for the photo assist !,,, https://www.audiogon.com/systems/7106#&gid=1&pid=20 I added a couple of Apogee system pics on my vintage system page if my insert fails… A look thru that system might give you and others the versatility of the Atom. …fun little beast i am loving this thread….thanks big time |
I’ve gone through the process of re-sizing my systems over the past two years, in part due to a move and to simplify life a bit. Where I’ve landed at present is a mix of KEF and Dynaudio products. In general the KEF speakers are in places that are associated with television viewing and/or casual listening. LS 60 in the family room, LS 50 II in the garage. They are a tremendous value given the capability. HDMI connection has been rock solid and I’ve used both pair connected via WiFi or Ethernet without a problem. Additionally, I’ve connected the speakers to each other wired and wirelessly with similar success. They just work, and the KEF app is user friendly. I have a pair of Dynaudio Focus 30 in my primary listening space, with an outboard streamer and turntable connected to the speakers. A bit of cabling in this setup, but we’re talking about a digital coax and a pair of RCA running to the main speakers. The Dynaudio’s are also WISA capable, but aside from testing the connection to see that it works, I’ve not used that method in practice. The current Focus series are Dirac capable, and I did purchase the required license. I could connect a sub (to the KEF as well) but have not felt the need in my rooms. If weight is a concern, the LS 60 are not light by any means, but once in place they’ve not moved more than a few times for cleaning and their form factor is a great match for our family room. I’ve had one occasion to reach out to customer service for each brand. Both cases initiated by the respective dealers and response from both dealer and company representatives has been both fast and knowledgeable. There are other connectivity options available with either speaker brand. But I’ve made things as simple as possible for my situation, without losing a bit of music enjoyment in the process. Best to all! |
Note: I noticed on the Arcam UK site it shows "coming soon" right now for the SA-45. Appeared at shows last May '24. Checking just now, some dealers appear to show it listed yet "out of stock". Will be interesting, and some of us here are Arcam fans too, I am, I have some Arcam gear myself, good to know. Thanks! |
Happy Listening to you @tomic601. An inspirational visual of the APOGEE ACOUSTICS CENTAUR MINOR RIBBON SPEAKER HYBRID SYSTEM, and the associated Naim Unity Atom again for reference. Thanks for sharing your super interesting combo. That’s super cool. |
We have a NAIM Uniti Atom running a pair of Apogee Centaur Minor in a large space. Both my wife and I like the simplicity and the app. The Atom also has 1 analog input, so i’ve also used it elsewhere with a TT and phono stage… and it also has pre outs and drives 4 m cables w ease. to the OP all the best in music to you and your friend - Long May You Run Jim |
One other thought (a little surprised no one else mentions it) is Arcam: SA35 - $3000 SA45 - $5000 A very solid company. But this is a really competitive area of the business right now, as you can see. Linn (I had the Linn Classic for our mbr system almost 20 years ago!) and Naim were early movers, but now any mainstream brand has to have a streaming integrated to compete, it seems.
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I’m 71 and have a dedicated listening room (now) and I went from Audio Research separates to a Moon 390 and will never look back. Eliminated a lot of cables and clutter. Kept my power amp (ARC VT100MkII), connected SACD over HDMI and listen at up to DSD256, Thorens td126III with Ortofon Black and good to go. Flawless machine after two years. The streaming from NAS interface requires some devotion, but small price to pay. I started in the 60s with a Scott 296 (the one that blows up), Rectilinear 3s (still in storage), Fisher TFM 300 tuner (feh) and a Dual 1019 (I wish I still had it) with a Shure M75 (I think?). Have fun! |
I have the Yamaha R-N2000A in our main living room area (my 2nd system but where I have to living harmony with others). I have it powering KEF R-3s (non-Meta) and a SVS SB-3000 sub. I’m still a noobie at all this, but I think it’s fantastic. The YPAO room correction is great and the E-ARC allows me to use it with the TV. At 47 lbs, this A/B integrated seems well built. Found it brand new for about $1300 off the MSRP (don’t know if I’m allowed to say where), so I’m very happy. |
Clip, from within the link you sent. Looks built inside. Dual torroidals. Nice. Interesting too. ------ Quote; "Now the AP20 story gets interesting. It’s analog all the way from here on out (with one convenient exception). Aurender implemented an analog R2R stepped-attenuator volume control in the AP20. It would’ve been so simple for the company to just use the digital volume control built into the AKM chips, but I’m very happy an R2R analog control was selected because I often prefer the sound of a nice analog volume control."
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The Aurender AP20 looks interesting. I have not been impressed with their earlier DACs. Streamer, top notch but not their DACs. I was interested to read this review. I have not heard one, so I can’t comment on the unit or this review. But looks like it would be worth hearing.
https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/aurender-ap20-integrated-review-r1256/
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@decooney ...*Laugh* Nah, saw the disclaimer, blew past it....and I had a pair of 'phones on at the time... Like any good piano, stay tuned... ;) @livinon2wheels ...sorry to read your house went to ash on you...1st thought was "well, that's what happens if you run all 11 at once, all at 11...😏..." Likely, not the case.... Anyway, at 73, we've similar pasts with Heathkits, Eico, Allied and Layfette catalogues, all that....being a pest at b&m shops....magazines of various sorts.... Since you've gotten pared down rather abruptly, it IS a great opportunity to revise an approach. You mention combining garage, kitchen, and locations less inclined to 'stationary audio contemplation', you might consider a distribution amp. The main system becomes the A-V set-up, minimalist as you may discern....or not. Just a thought.... J |
There it is - was wondering when it would surface here. And now a few pictures. Seems this unit is being marketed fairly aggressively around the world this past year. https://www.advanceparis.com/en/gammes/myconnect/
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Great posts, guys! Interesting how things cycle back their beginnings. Fruitwood consoles gave way to "components" which peaked at massive hardware (and physical media) taking up a measurable amount of the available real estate in our homes. Then back to compressing all this (under extreme pressure) in the most minimalist(?) amount of space, measured in cubic centimeters as opposed to cubic feet. Our past efforts to cram 3 pounds of manure into a 2 pound bag has had mixed success in both sound quality, and reliability. Sometimes we’re just slow learners. (It did take us over 100 years to figure out that if we just tipped those Ketchup bottles upside down life would be much easier). But, we are seeing legitimate "real" high fidelity stuff coming in small packages these days. The convergence of engineering genius and musical genius is a beautiful thing. We’re actively involved in servicing old audio gear which takes a "creative" turn now and then. We recently applied "newer thinking" to a 60’s Zenith "flip down" stereo -- one of those things where the turntable hinged down from the top and the speakers flipped out from the sides. We installed new 2.1 digital amp, modern low profile drivers, and passive sub out. Also located an old (but newer) BIC changer up in the loft to replace the original Zenith. Belt drive, Grado cartridge, outboard phono stage. Sounds pretty <insert expletive here> good, looks original, and takes up minimal space. Then there’s the old (vacuum tube) Magnavox console that was dropped off for service. After breathing life back into it, we experimented with a Wiim Pro streamer with 12v trigger. The old Magnavox's new hidden components can be controlled via iPhone or tablet. Powers when the app is launched, and powers down after a few minutes of non-activity. Fun stuff.
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So true, thanks for the reply, story, and acknowledging this thread - us helping a friend and others.. You bring up great family memories for me, and the mention of Lafayette, Heathkit and Hafler. My grandfather was involved with a lot of that, parts and more - was Chief Engineer at H&R later became founder of American Electronic Laboratories, AEL , Philadelphia PA. This exposed me to some of it. Your comment about the lack of "brick and mortar" stores and mention is something I’m tracking in my own metropolitan area. I’m also wondering about this myself, likely a key factor in how the next generation of audio-listeners are evolving, adapting, and what they are actually buying now days, and for the near future. ---- Holding on !!!: I try to periodically visit my own local 55-year-in-business audio dealer to check in and see what’s happening. Been going there for 45 years. He’s still in business and loving it, and I do not see any all-in-one units for sale there, all unique stuff you cannot buy online easily fwiw. Definitely a group of us still out here hugging our separates and enjoying them as long as we can :). I think it helps to do both, and let go of whatever you need to - when needed, but maybe not immediately LOL.
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Advance Paris Myconnect 250Vacuum tube preamplification with Streaming Functionality…
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What an interesting thread and all the thoughtful replies to the OP. I am starting to walk down the simplification path to some extent. At the age of 72 I still enjoy a system of separates but not to the order of magnitude I once did. This bears explaining. I was exposed to hi-fi gear back in the days when AR inc was making a name for itself and state of the art home audio gear was from heathkit and featured a williamson type tube amp (20 wpc) and a separate preamp. Add Tuner and turntable and you have a mono system. That was Dad's first system that I had recollection of and 'helped' build it at the age of 8, my help largely limited to asking way too many questions and getting in his way. But that kit building experience opened the door for a career in electronics, and many more kits from companies like Lafayette, Heathkit and Hafler. All of which helped me along my path. Fast forward to where I was in early 2024. At one point there I had no less than 11 different sound/video systems scattered throughout my house, almost all of that were separates, with various extra pieces that either had fallen out of favor due to age or some personality trait I decided was sufficient reason to disconnect and store as a spare. Then in April the house fire happened and that was the end of essentially all of what I had. Its safe to say I won't be rebuilding 11 separates based systems when I move back into the house. Its just not going to happen. Most of what will be bought will be simplified systems that don't have a high fiddle factor. I too many other things I would rather do than try to collect the odd collection of stuff I had before. Its just not worth the trouble at this point. I will certainly have for sure one separates system but for the most part, integration and consolidation is the path forward. For sure there will not be 11 systems either...that ship has sailed. I am leaning more towards the idea of things that are mostly music based systems and 2 channel to have a DAC/preamp/amp combo with perhaps a streamer or computer as the source. The system I am using now is an Emotiva TA1 with a Macbook Air as the source, connected by USB. Not high powered at all, but sufficient as a desktop system. So, am I considering systems more consolidated than this one. Perhaps for the garage or bedroom or kitchen, these locations truly beg for a simple quality solution. Not necessarily cheap but something that is simple to use and sounds good at reasonable levels. It seems there is a TON of gear out there now that meets these parameters and is fairly affordable. The lure of the simplicity combined with near audiophile or true audiophile quality is pretty compelling. Choosing out of this glut of gear is a daunting process, and so time consuming due to the lack of brick and mortar stores within a reasonable distance from my home. But I still want at least one serious separates system that will rock the house like a Grateful Dead concert. I cling to the belief that in order to make the illusion of actually being at the venue where the recording was done really come home, you need to be able to reproduce the live levels and dynamic range that were captured on the recording. To ensure that is possible you need efficient speakers and prodigious amounts of amplifier power. Everyone draws that line in a different place but for me, especially given this multichannel system must reproduce movies and music convincingly, if the amp and speaker combo can produce clean musical peaks at 115db that is a reasonable compromise between true real world loud levels you would experience hearing gun shots or jet engines spooling up or....pick your loud sound effect. For music, that is certainly enough and for sound effects it exceeds Dolby standards by 10 db so I'll call it good. That said, I dont know of an integrated amp/streamer that has that potent an amplifier section. This is easily achievable with separates. So begins the slow process of managing and rethinking my expectations going forward. |
What an interesting thread and all the thoughtful replies to the OP. I am starting to walk down the simplification path to some extent. At the age of 72 I still enjoy a system of separates but not to the order of magnitude I once did. This bears explaining. I was exposed to hi-fi gear back in the days when AR inc was making a name for itself and state of the art home audio gear was from heathkit and featured a williamson type tube amp (20 wpc) and a separate preamp. Add Tuner and turntable and you have a mono system. That was Dad's first system that I had recollection of and 'helped' build it at the age of 8, my help largely limited to asking way too many questions and getting in his way. But that kit building experience opened the door for a career in electronics, and many more kits from companies like Lafayette, Heathkit and Hafler. All of which helped me along my path. Fast forward to where I was in early 2024. At one point there I had no less than 11 different sound/video systems scattered throughout my house, almost all of that were separates, with various extra pieces that either had fallen out of favor due to age or some personality trait I decided was sufficient reason to disconnect and store as a spare. Then in April the house fire happened and that was the end of essentially all of what I had. Its safe to say I won't be rebuilding 11 separates based systems when I move back into the house. Its just not going to happen. Most of what will be bought will be simplified systems that don't have a high fiddle factor. I too many other things I would rather do than try to collect the odd collection of stuff I had before. Its just not worth the trouble at this point. I will certainly have for sure one separates system but for the most part, integration and consolidation is the path forward. For sure there will not be 11 systems either...that ship has sailed. I am leaning more towards the idea of things that are mostly music based systems and 2 channel to have a DAC/preamp/amp combo with perhaps a streamer or computer as the source. The system I am using now is an Emotiva TA1 with a Macbook Air as the source, connected by USB. Not high powered at all, but sufficient as a desktop system. So, am I considering systems more consolidated than this one. Perhaps for the garage or bedroom or kitchen, these locations truly beg for a simple quality solution. Not necessarily cheap but something that is simple to use and sounds good at reasonable levels. It seems there is a TON of gear out there now that meets these parameters and is fairly affordable. The lure of the simplicity combined with near audiophile or true audiophile quality is pretty compelling. Choosing out of this glut of gear is a daunting process, and so time consuming due to the lack of brick and mortar stores within a reasonable distance from my home. But I still want at least one serious separates system that will rock the house like a Grateful Dead concert. I cling to the belief that in order to make the illusion of actually being at the venue where the recording was done really come home, you need to be able to reproduce the live levels and dynamic range that were captured on the recording. To ensure that is possible you need efficient speakers and prodigious amounts of amplifier power. Everyone draws that line in a different place but for me, especially given this multichannel system must reproduce movies and music convincingly, if the amp and speaker combo can produce clean musical peaks at 115db that is a reasonable compromise between true real world loud levels you would experience hearing gun shots or jet engines spooling up or....pick your loud sound effect. For music, that is certainly enough and for sound effects it exceeds Dolby standards by 10 db so I'll call it good. That said, I dont know of an integrated amp/streamer that has that potent an amplifier section. This is easily achievable with separates. So begins the slow process of managing and rethinking my expectations going forward. |
Nah, you missed the disclaimer - this thread is not meant for those still enjoying and justifying their high $ audio separates all over the place. Since you bring it up, the *sly grin* rests with clever folks listening with really good headphones on
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