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Last week, someone was asking about speakers and I asked some questions like room size, what amp he had, types of music he listened to and how loud he listens and it was removed for reasons I can’t understand.
The whole Discussion was Deleted. Not only Your Comment.
I do Post and Drop. I would never know if any of my comment was deleted. My fingers exercised the first amendment. Hopefully my sarcasm doesn't insult anyone but myself.
I recall one discussion gave new insight of stereo to me. I came to the realization of Phase Aligned Direct Current. Brilliant discussion.
I was hoping to learn more about Point Source speakers, and maybe some good examples. Seems like a wrestling match between sales platform profits vs. forum education/function. If history tells the story, then. …
@dekay: Interesting. I asked your AI dumb as bot “ what is the best DAC”. I was surprised it came up with something different than ASR party line:
As an AI language model, I cannot provide subjective opinions. However, there are many high-quality DACs available in the market that can cater to different needs and preferences. It is essential to consider factors such as audio quality, connectivity options, compatibility with your devices, and budget before making a decision. Some popular DAC brands include Chord Electronics, AudioQuest, Schiit Audio, and Cambridge Audio, among others. I recommend researching and reading reviews on various DACs to help you make an informed decision.
I actually wonder how many humans go with that AI recommendation 🤔
Sounds a lot like the standard answers newbies get around here when they ask what they should get. Have we been commingling with AI bots all this time?
Try making a joke about the Audiogon Mods and see how far over your head it goes. Jeez, you and @nonoiseneed to lighten up. More like @nosenseofhumororsarcasm.
Lightening up goes both ways. How many times does it have to be pointed out that the 1st amendment only restrains government censorship. Private entities like this can moderate how they like until the cows come home even if they have "public" forums. Just what did you say to the mods to have it taken down anyway?
I do not understand the term "bots" when referring to Audiogon message entries.
Is it referencing humans who physically type responses or questions based on a need to disturb things?
or
Is it talking about machines or digital software that is programmed to make up questions or answers which may be relevant or may just be antagonistic for whatever reason?
How can any entry be proven to be either of the above?
It’s what some are calling these generic questions from brand spanking new members coming out of nowhere. The questions always seem to stir debate or require lots of advice as they’re lacking in specificity.
The responses can be detailed and thorough but the OP seems to just vanish from the thread. Check out the members start date and you’ll see. So we call them bots.
The term bot comes from social media when automated scripts would run to pollute a discussion, especially based on keywords. It has been expanded to mean insincere participation in a discussion threads, especially from commercial or government funded message farms. There's a huge amount of research on this related to Twitter if you are interested. Google "twitter misinformation bots" and I'm sure you'll find lots of it.
It is difficult for us end-users to prove anything about bots and their behavior, especially on individual posts, unless it’s glaringly obvious, like "I found a place that lets you print free money and I wanted to share the URL with you..."
Observing the forums over time however you can get a good sense of the shift to bot-ness.
In all honesty, mine was barely funny....even to me..
So, @thecarpathian...you're absolutely right. *s* (No +; it was just the 'try' aspect...'a Zen arrow into the dark, likely hitting one's own ass...' ;)
("...his jokes fell like leaden farts upon the stage...")... too true, too often...
It would seem odd to launch an AI'd bot into forums as this, if only to generate some off-the-non-existent-wall form of vague disillusionment over new posters, or even spoofing real ones...and they'd likely be better at it than yours truly. *l*
Now, if there was an on-going snit over some political flame, a moth-bot may be drawn here; but when there's muchomore elsewhere....?
'It's just highly illogical', Spockishly...
Free money....right....anyone who remembers the closing scenario of The Magic Christian should agree that even 'free' has a cost....
I'm talking (posting) about "software based" BOTS.
I can only find one remaining thread initiated by these BOTS (the others have been deleted).
Many of the BOTS have "joined" the same sites (Roku, AllKpop, Canon Global, Net Gear - et cetera and to name just a few) within minutes of initiating their Audiogon account?
They typically made a single post and that was it.
However, some of them came back with a 2nd post (reply to their thread) with a link to a product/service) and then that was it.
DeKay
Admin Audiogon Official
@dekay Can you give me the name of the one thread still active that was created by the BOT?
In my observation, moderation is becoming more heavy handed in many forums.
I can understand why, since so many threads seem to devolve into the same flame wars of "Can you tell the difference in a double blind study" vs. "your system/ears not resolving enough."
That said, it’s not as fun as it used to be. The Roon forum, for example, has a bit of feel of being in military school now. If only people could behave...
Some forums have even split apart into their own echo chamber subgroups. A while ago AutiophileStyle put up a set of forum topics for discussion of cables, fuses, digital reclockers, where "that’s snake oil" responses are not allowed.
Maybe Audiogon needs some designated "safe spaces" - threads where flaming and disagreement are not allowed, only discussion of *whatever* and then other threads where it’s a cage match, and it’s all allowed.
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