100% USA designed & made DAC


I am curious as to what besides Bricasti is a "good" designed and made in America DAC. I am aware of PS Audio as well. It seems like all the accolades are for either Eastern European of far Eastern pieces. Thanks, Allen

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Not chiming in on the dac of choice but rather the Made in USA portion. Yeah I am with you on the Made in the good ol U.S.of A. But I saw that someone mentioned that made in the usa means little as the value of components that are officially from the USA is like 25%. That is false. It is actually very hard to say that it is made in the USA as the value of parts has to be like 98%. They govt even inquires to where the material is from so if the metal is from China that is a strike against it. Here's a video of Schiit Head saying as such- (jump to the 7 minute mark):  

 

Geshelli Labs. Outstanding regardless of price. For $300 , it's astronomically underpriced based on performance. If they ever decide to do tube and point to point wiring, there will be free who can compete. Plus, customer service is serving to none.

When in doubt go Benchmark and rest assured you have a product with a focus on transparent engineering quality valued by professionals at your service. No nonsense. 

While I'm an MSB and dCS fan, what about those cool little USB thingys from Audioquest?  California. 

I probably should have stated that I am currently using a Lumin T2 streaming DAC and am interested  in an obviously better sounding option. Not something I have to strain to decide if I like it better, thanks for all the comments, Allen. 

 

@rsf507 Sorry have to disagree regarding Schitt, it is just ok but compared to many others it is very flat and 2 dimensional sounding IMO. 

@barts  My experience as well.  "very flat" it never caused me to become "part of the music" just my 2 cents, but that's it.

I have been thru several DAC brands and finally settle down with Schiit Modius as the DAC for my second system.  I do not experience "very flat" SS.  In fact, Modius preserves spatial information quite well when the recordings have it, as mentioned in several thrustworthy reviewers.  The SS may not be as wide way passing speakers but, within the SS, it pinpoints the instrument / vocal well and has a reasonable depth.  The BF2 is a step up model and it just does not make sense for its SS being "very flat".  I know it is kinda subjective but why don't you educate the Audiogoners here what "many others" DACs in similar price points out there are better choices?

 

This thread is a good reminder that no matter how widely well-regarded a brand is there will always be those who have a dissenting opinion.

very true

an important part of surfing these discussion sites for useful info is knowing how to filter out the 'noise' from the 'signal'

This thread is a good reminder that no matter how widely well-regarded a brand is there will always be those who have a dissenting opinion.

@rsf507 +1

My experience as well.  "very flat" it never caused me to become "part of the music" just my 2 cents, but that's it.

Regards,

barts

The BorderPatrol DAC SE and SE-I models are 100% hand built in USA by an Englishman Gary Dews with the latest models built with Jupiter caps. I use one for streaming but an Audio Note Dac for my main system.

Adding to my post yesterday, 10+ years ago I helped a friend build a Harley Knuckle Head from the ground up. All the new parts in HD boxes said MADE IN CHINA

Sorry have to disagree regarding Schitt, it is just ok but compared to many others it is very flat and 2 dimensional sounding IMO. 

I second the Schiit recommendations.  I just upgraded my Bifrost 2 to the 2/64 version and it made an improvement in clarity and imaging with my Fyne F702 speakers, Rogue Audio RP-7 preamp, and Benchmark AHB2 amp … well worth the $100 increase in price for a new model.  Of course, there are other, more expensive options made in the USA, as others have said, but Schiit does make good Schiit, right here in the USA.

I doubt there’s any American designed and built DAC that has all American parts in it.  Just like GM is an American company, but it’s vehicles are built from parts from all over the world and they are assembled in several places outside of the US. Ford and Tesla, same story. It’s pretty much the way of the world of business these days.
Check out Airbus sometime. It’s fascinating how their supply line works!

@mrskeptic Yes, they're quite the company in this regard. But most other companies are not, and most people are not asking about internal parts. Ideology quickly runs into the brick wall of practicality or is revealed as a surface-level preference.

Mojo Audio. Lots of direction changes the last few years but it looks like that is settled now and the Mystique X emerges. 

Carlsbad,

the Wyred4Sound 10th anniversary dac is phenomenal sounding, one of the reviewers put it up against his VPI turntable with a $5,000 Japanese cartridge and he said it was every bit as analog sounding and I bought one and I have to totally agree most analog sounding DAC that I've had in my system and it's only $4,500 US and it beat up on a lot of more expensive dacs in testing.

I am surprised that only one mention for MSB. 
 

MSB designed produced in house in the USA. 
 

my system is all made in the USA

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I don't typically take the country of origin into consideration as much as I take the company's focus on on quality products and ethical treatment of others.  I have acquired all of audio gear from a audio retailer - the largest store being Tweeters in the 80s.

Made in America is nice and a local audio store that services warranty and has a trade-in program I value more than country of origin.  That's my approach - and growing up 10 miles from Canada and half the family being Canadian I tend to lump 'North America' companies as American. 

I've owned a variety of manufactures including US (McIntosh, Parasound); Canadian (Bluesound, Mirage, Moon, NAD), UK (Rega), German (Dual), Italy (Sonus faber), Japan (Denon, Yamaha).  And I've bough all my equipment through local audio retailer.  

 

Unfortunately our government standard to be labeled Made in USA is only something like 25% of parts made here. Could even be lower these days

Border Patrol was made in Maryland & now in Virginia. Very reasonably priced & imo, sounds like real music. 

+1 for Wyred 4 Sound.

As was mentioned their DACs have received a lot of love over the years and have been on my list of DACs to try. Recently I was able to pick up a used DAC 2 DSDse for ~$900 and have been absolutely loving it. For another $1k I can have it upgraded to the latest specs but for as well as it is working in my system I’m going to keep enjoying it as is for now and spend the money on other upgrades.

Geshelli is really top notch. $250 and it blow my mind. I have an Ares II and I considering selling.

A US company that doesn't get much love now but their DACs were once on the Recommended List is Wyred4sound.

Geshelli Labs. Just bought their J2 DAC for my office and it's absolutely fantastic for what they charge.

I love the sound of Schiit Dacs. They have drive…from the Modi Multibit to the Yggdrasil.

The one we manufacturer Vu Jade Audio - hand made USA - best parts - point-to-point wired - 101D direct heated Triode tubes - R2R.

Happy Listening.