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Yes, I would for Aesthetix, Conrad Johnson or Pass Labs.
Yes, I would for Aesthetix, Conrad Johnson or Pass Labs.
Would you go all 1 brand for electronics?
When I was younger I used to dream of stacks. Especially Tandberg. The sexy black and chrome gear was amazingly sexy, and sleek. Ahead of it’s time really in that respect. Kyocera, Studer, Sumo, Amber, Hitachi, Yamaha, Technics, were all making gear that stacked beautifully together. Of course, so was McIntosh.
Then I got to hear a demo of Conrad Johnson gear driving a Martin Logan single panel speaker. It was good, but as soon as the CJ amp got switched out for a solid state amp, it was absolutely magical. That broke the spell for me. When I got older I found myself mixing and matching more and more, as well as often wishing there wasn’t a single damn cable in the system and it all just worked. :)
I tried going all 1 brand with Parasound, but then I discovered great sounding digital amps and instead of going with many Parasounds I went with little monoblocks, and the whole stack idea was broken. They don’t make sources anyway.
So my question for all of you, especially those of you who do not have all 1 brand stacks of gear. If you had to choose, from source to amp, a single brand, what would it be? Of course your paying for it, so keep the cost in mind. :)
I think we should reasonably exclude record players, though some like McIntosh DO make them.
Best,
Erik
Then I got to hear a demo of Conrad Johnson gear driving a Martin Logan single panel speaker. It was good, but as soon as the CJ amp got switched out for a solid state amp, it was absolutely magical. That broke the spell for me. When I got older I found myself mixing and matching more and more, as well as often wishing there wasn’t a single damn cable in the system and it all just worked. :)
I tried going all 1 brand with Parasound, but then I discovered great sounding digital amps and instead of going with many Parasounds I went with little monoblocks, and the whole stack idea was broken. They don’t make sources anyway.
So my question for all of you, especially those of you who do not have all 1 brand stacks of gear. If you had to choose, from source to amp, a single brand, what would it be? Of course your paying for it, so keep the cost in mind. :)
I think we should reasonably exclude record players, though some like McIntosh DO make them.
Best,
Erik
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I currently have all Audio Research gear including Reference 6 Preamplifier, GS 150 Power Amplifier, Reference 3 Phono Preamplifier and Reference CD9 Player/DAC. The synergism of ARC components has been very rewarding and has taken me to a place sonically I have never been. Each has a similiar sonic signature built on the traditional ARC sound. Mixing components can be equally rewarding provided the components have complementary impedances and specificifications. But then again this is part of the fun of being in this hobby trying to achieve "Acoustic Alchemy" with competing manufacturer components. Can't go wrong either way. |
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I'm running the full line of Rogue's top components: Apollo monoblocs, Hera II preamp, Ares phono. An absolutely fantastic match with my Tannoy Canterbury. There are no worries about sonic matching between components -- they all gel together. The MSRP of the full Rogue stack is 22K, though I've also added a Bob's Devices 1131 SUT and tube upgrades. Rogue gets lots of attention for their entry-level and midrange-priced products, but not so much for their top line (at least in North America). But they represent a very nice option, above the midrange-priced stuff but still below the "full audio retard"-priced gear -- and well worth the money over the midrange in my experience. When you get this Rogue stack behind some great speakers in a decent room (as Rogue has done at some shows), I think it's hard to not walk away impressed. Some years ago I inserted a VAC Renaissance III pre+phono in place of the Hera/Ares, and it definitely had its good points, but in the end I went back to the Hera II and then the Ares again. I've also heard various full VAC stacks, and they're all capable of sounding very very nice, but cost A LOT more once you get beyond the basic Sigma 160 integrated. All my systems prior to this were mixed, and basically sonic junk compared to the current end result, though they consisted of some nice components. |
For one manufacturer, besides speakers, I would do the NPac combo from Aurender.....a 100w integrated including DSD/PCM DAC along with a 4 terrabyte storage/playback unit.....for under 5K retail.... I would partner them with the unbelievable Ryan 610s for 2k retail Here's a video of that combo with the 610s larger brother........ https://youtu.be/hkX7v5JeJD0?t=59s Ultimately, for 7K retail, or around 5500 real world, you'd have to go at least double or triple to approach what you'd achieve here..... |
To the original topic, the short answer is 'yes, definitely,...'. In my case, it has come to be a stack of Esoteric separates that offer great synergy and truly musical playback. There are many other great examples both with and without speakers in the line-up that people have called out including Classe, Krell, Linn, McIntosh, MBL, etc....on this thread as well as others including Gryphon, TIDAL (Germany), Hegel & Electrocompaniet (Norway) and several others that come to mind. |
For my ear and my desire for fewer knobs etc my preference is Aesthetix for 1 stack. I'm almost there. Have atlas eclipse amp and Romulus sig cd/dac. Currently run Mac C52 but and soon to upgrade to calypso rhea sig or eclipse. Want to hear new Metis. 1 brand of matched gear just looks better to me and that's part of it when the gear is all out there to be seen. Aesthetix looks great to me and I love the sound I get from the hybrids running thru my Burmester B30 and Lp12. |
Going all Audio Research is not a bad thing, in fact it's a sound investment having a good resale value, you can tell a lot of effort goes in to build quality both internally and externally. I always wanted to try Gamut products, tried many other brands but unfortunately not Gamut. You don't hardly ever see their products for sale. |
I had the old tandberg set ups we used to sell them .There reel to reel was sick! I had luxmans over the years Krell too power but wasnt for me .I still like the mf stuff the nuviista 800 is a beast ..I love my modded nuvista m3 Of course price is not a concern i would probly do all ref arc ,or ayre |
"Older Krell like the KSA series, was always out of reach for me. That would be my first choice. Second choice is Classe." I use to be a dealer for both but didn't keep any for different reasons. Basically because I found others I liked better. I have Gamut amp and speakers but could switch to my CJ and Spendor without much pain. Also use Metrum and Townsend. |
There is one company that has not been mentioned. They have always been known for system synergy. Begining with all in one streamers. Then you have what seems like an endless upgrade path. Optional sources, power supplies a one of a kind grounding scheme. Even speakers and recommended speaker cables and interconnects....... Naim Audio. N |
The benefit of using a single electronics manufacturer is that you're pretty much going to get the same quality sound as the manufacturer does in their reference system. Voicing will work together across the components. The results should be the best possible sound the manufacturer can produce. I use all Herron Audio electronics and cables. I even found out what Herron uses for digital and analog sources. The results are stunning. Replacing a single component, regardless of the new component, degrades the sound reproduction quality. IMO, the same applies to other manufacturers. Good ARC, Atmo-sphere, Rowland, VAC... The list goes on. But the best results would seem to be from using a single electronics manufacturer. |
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The Parasound Int is a pretty sweet combo! I also really really like the ARC Integrated I heard a while ago. OK, I think I answered my own question. I think if I had a single brand, of which I cannot afford ANY, it would be Ayre. :) Not sure I'd trade my Mytek Brooklyn for an Ayre DAC anymore, but I could see myself getting some enormous bonus and shopping for a stack. Its the same dream where Mindy Kaling AND Milla Jovovich ask me out at the same time, and are totally OK with me dating both of them at the same time, trading off cat sitting duties so I can go out with the other one. In other words, never going to happen. :) Best, Erik |
I agree, so that's why I said "can be" instead of "are." I have not personally heard a built-in perform at the stand alone level, but not ready to say definitively that it does not exist. Regarding your thoughts on having a single piece of electronics, I have a Parasound HINT in a secondary system and it does a lot and does everything well (and at a very reasonable price). If I HAD to get down to one piece, it might be it, but I know exactly what I would be missing. That's why it's in a secondary system :) |
@erik_squires , well on your original post you said: If you had to choose, from source to amp, a single brand, what would it be? Of course your paying for it, so keep the cost in mind. :) Since most folks are paying for it, that is probably why you are having more mentions of Parasound, Bryston, Bel Canto, etc. Some may like Boulder, Vitus, or others, but not if they are paying for it. ;^) |
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