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Moderator? There are many forums on this subject - I know I'm not forced to look at it but it has no business here and it challenges your credibility. No one cares but I'm about to stop visiting this site. On a high note I posted some comments here a couple weeks ago and received nothing but respectful and useful comments - I was waiting for snark and it never happened - lol |
Nonoise.... I think the answer to your.... "How can they be so anti-science, anti-math and anti-logic and still claim to...." Is the overuse of ’The Noble Lie’ ... e.g. Don’t buy up masks...they don’t help and you are denying health care professionals protection... Get vaccinated and you’ll not need to wear a mask... Later only to say...yeah, we misled you (or were just talking out of our @##*$$). ..but it was for YOUR OWN GOOD and you really should trust us moving forward...we will use science from now on...pinky swear! I don’t identify left or right...but the left leaning are most often the purveyors of the Noble Lie...as they think they are smarter than everyone else. P.S. I am vaccinated... though I feel like a sucker for not waiting for the $100 incentive.😉
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Well, folks, first off NO vaccine has ever, or will ever be 100% effective. If you expect that, you are profoundly ignorant of how vaccines work. Vaccines rely ENTIRELY on the natural immune system of the patient. Guess what, people respond differently. It's nature, not a CIA conspiracy, or alien lizard people engaging in a covert Earth takeover attempt. If you don't understand genetics, or protein coding and manufacture at the cellular level then you have no idea how the mRNA vaccines work, so how 'bout learning some biology before propagating nonsense? Now, yeah Christmas is coming and I'm looking for a recommendation for a decent CD player to replace/augment my long in the tooth Sony XA20-ES. Tried the Marantz CD-6007 but it didn't beat my Sony. Not looking to spend the farm for my old ears, but the Sony won't last forever. |
Here in Canada, health professionals have recognized that Vaccines are helpful but not perfect. So we still wear masks in public places and we require to be vaxxed to go to restaurants, sporting events, concerts, etc. I think we have less distrust of our government and health officials up here. This would probably not fly in the USA where so many people feel these measures would be an assault on their personal freedoms. However, here's how it plays out. I read many posts from people who have had friends and relatives that got Covid, with some even dying. I personally know of no one who has even been hospitalized, let alone die, from Covid and I have a pretty large circle of peeps. Our daily Covid case counts are 1/4 of that those in the USA on a per capita basis. We must be doing something right. Covid is real, if you choose not to get vaxxed, and I support personal choice, then do or don't do whatever and live with the consequences of your choices. Stay safe people. The stats don't lie.
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It would be easier to just go back thru the years using the search engine here and see what the same idiots said when Covid first hit and you’ll see that their arguments were the same and just as inspid. You’ll also see how they constantly move the goalposts, cherry pick their data, mistate facts and timelines, and use any tactic they can to convince themselves they’re right. It’s cognitive dissonance on full display. The more they’re wrong, the angrier they get and the more they retreat into their tailor made dystopian hellscape. Here we have an actual infectious desease expert offering advice and some yahoo calls him a leftist. That’s all the you need to know about what you’re dealing with. How can they be so anti-science, anti-math and anti-logic and still claim to be into audio, which requires those belief systems? In the old days, we’d call them insane, or at least, incredibly neurotic. All the best, Nonoise |
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IOW you have no argument that will hold up other than you are offended. Thats what I said earlier. You have NO argument worthhearing so you must try to silence other views. Then if that doesn’t work you try to criticize their character. Yer on track just like I knew you would be. Here’s the inventor of the mRNA vaccine.
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YOU confirm your lack of humanity, reasoning capacity and foolishness by using that one word "left." this is not a polical issue, its a health issue.
true I have read many posts but not being an expert I never made any comments as I am out of my league with audiophiles. You are out of your league with health science. sure, you and other arrogant stubborn paranoids know better than all the medical and public health scientists and have critically analyzed the the thousands of studies. I won't reply as you are not worth the bytes and energy. hope your life is short. |
Wow. Your 3rd post here and you are already calling for censorshi and banning people for their ideas. This is typical of the left who cannot EVER WIN the argument based on their ideas, so they HAVE to shut down anyone who disagrees. Kinda like this whole Scamdemic. Anyone who disagrees must be silenced. That includes Dr Robert Malone who Invented the mRNA vaccine. He is not onboard with this vaccine and suspects it of enhancing the virus rather than stopping it.
BTW have any of you leftists ever read a history book? I aalways wondered how so many citizens of 1930's & 40's Germany could allow 6 million people slaughtered right under their noses. The last few years have answered that question. |
Smallpox vaccine triggered similar responses in the past... "In 1902, following a smallpox outbreak, the board of health of the city of Cambridge, Massachusetts, mandated all city residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. City resident Henning Jacobson refused vaccination on the grounds that the law violated his right to care for his own body how he knew best. In turn, the city filed criminal charges against him. After losing his court battle locally, Jacobson appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. In 1905 the Court found in the state’s favor, ruling that the state could enact compulsory laws to protect the public in the event of a communicable disease. This was the first U.S. Supreme Court case concerning the power of states in public health law." History of Vaccines For those wishing to condemn the source... this information is available from multiple historical sources. Vaccines have improved the lives of the whole of society....Smallpox, Polio, etc..You would think we as a society would becoming smarter. I too wish Ron a speedy recovery |
ISOCHRONISM AND ROADWHORERECORDS SHOULD BE shunned and banned for posting PATENTLY FALSE disinformation/misinformation.
I am infectious diesase physician, clinical researcher in COVID-19 and have 25 years experience in practice of infectious disease. If your lack of insight and agrogant stubborn foolishness did not impact the health of nornal citizens of this failing republic, I would be happy that you are not vaccinated. Good riddence. Cheers, good listening and stay safe to the normal audiophiles.
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I'd say 'to each, his own', but the anti-vaxxers are out there infecting others and that does not seem ethical, perhaps to them. I do feel bad for the folks that live their lives in constant onging fear that their government is going to kill them through vaccinations. Must be tough to be scared all of the time.... Can't figure out the hatred of science among some. I just want to stay healthy. Got my Covid booster yesterday and a std flu shot as well. |
You don't understand. Uncle joe loves you so much that he will do anything to get you vaxxed including taking away your job & income And Fauchi was just kidding that 1st time he said that a mask brought on false security. he was just following the old science which showed that the masks don't stop a virus. Now we are following the new science...you know, the one that says to wear a mask cause the xperts say so. No, this is not a sinister plot. The sinister plot was by those in the medical community, including Dr Robert Malone who invented the MRNA procedure process who has come out against the experimental vaccine. this is why uncle Joe had to silence them. It was for our good. Who wants to know both sides anyway. It just confuses people. |
I too wished him and his family a speedy recovery; I also assumed that no one in his house got vaccinated because he shared a lot of his family situation with us but stopped short of saying what their status was. I've yet to come across anyone who has been vaccinated to be reluctant to share their staus (unless it hurts them politically with their base), whereas the unvaxxed will weave and dodge the question or simply not volunteer the information. None of my business I understand, just my experience with people so far. The medical experts with lots of education, training and experience in their specialty are the ones you should get your advice from, because you can find any number of sources on the internet that will confirm or deny anything and everything. |
Any vaccination that Is being pushed so heavily and shoved down your throat not to mention all the bribery with lotteries and a free hamburger and such, is not a vaccination. It is a sinister plot. A real vaccination was for, ie, the measles and polio.....this fear mongering is ridiculous and profoundly absurd. Also, a mask, you know, the surgical ones? They do not stop a virus, like using a chain link fence to stop a mosquito.....I did not get it, don’t plan on getting it, and have dealt with people all through this whole debacle for 2 full years, and have yet to contract it. It’s all bull crap. Only If you are elderly with existing major health concerns, are you to worry. Ridiculous....let the hate begin! U can p*ss off! |
BTW, just posting to relate may own "jab" experience. The first one, I felt a little fuzzy in my right arm and leg (the side I got my first shot in) right afterwards but it went away later on in the day. A few days later I got a LITTLE sick, it felt like a very mild cold and without the blocked / drippy nose or coughing. That lasted for about 1.5 days I think. The second shot I had done on my left arm I didn't notice any of the above symptoms. Both shot locations felt sore after a day. I imagine that's how it would feel like if someone knuckle-punched you in the arm and left a bruise; if you touched it / lay on it, etc, it would ache. That gradually went away over a several days. I got the Pfizer one. I'll probably go back for boosters to make sure my immunity is topped up. |
@nonoise have you just discovered gifs...?!? |
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audioman, See this thread topic. You don't have to partake, but don't feel you can set the rules. Don’t be a 3itch. 😄👍 Otherwise I fully agree with you. We have ALL been played with much of what we've been taught growing up. Many just don't realize it yet. Some won't ever. I always wish all the best!! |
@audioman58 Talk about BS you quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. The only thing worthwhile in your post stick to audio topics and why don't you try doing the same? |
Let's not start the liberal BS , more people have died with the 2-3 rd vaccine this year ,and the years not open ,the all of last year , Fouchy the idiot started this in 2014 ,, no science to back up the vaccine ,natural immunity is 27 x better then the vaccine , no more vaccine crap 💩 Please, stick to Audio topics !! |
Look.....I knew Ron when he was here in AZ. I've got nothing against him or his stance on COVID-19. I got the jab as did my family back in April. I know they didn't but it's not up to me preach at others. Pre and post jab, I went to his place several times except of course when the kids weren't feeling well (as parents, we all had to deal with this). So not a big deal. All the old Geezers in our Club got the jab before my family because they're old. So I was safe and masked up when necessary. I hate those f'in masks since day one and admittly don't wear one now unless my Wife makes me or if there's a sign posted. So that's it. Dude went "on the air" and said his peace. End of discussion. Admin please close this topic.
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Do you know what i was doing to be informed when i was younger? I wait in a university library and bookstores for 12 hours a week... Nowadays , if we look for other thing than funny cat video, we may stumble into about deep new facts and theory about sound, epidemiology or simply a magnificent book to read IN FEW SECONDS... Try Omm Sety astounding true story...I just finish it to forget about all actual problems in the world...A verified case for reincarnation very hard to debunk...A beautiful love story i think Hollywod must do, and some facts about ancien Egypt... Or try Karl Friston free energy principle very deep theory about life and the flow of information if you dont like reincarnation book... Internet is useful mainly to read new books or articles new ideas....Casually also to listen to some interview...Deep one like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzuibY5kUs
Internet surfing waste of time is destructive, searching and reading are not.... This time i go back to Pat Martino music for sure.... Not completely out of my computer though 😁 because i just stumble onto a paper about variational ecology, i will glance at it and related it to another morphological study of mammals... Incredible what internet could do and the very poor thing we do with it... Even when our own life depend on our informed decision about some action we must cautiously take, most people will believe instead any voice which will spare them their own study of facts...
«Life is the only territory where we cannot spare the time to draw our own map of meaning instead of buying one»-Anonymus Smith
I dont know you and dont judge you...My post is "recreational" and perhaps will be useful for at least one person i wish...I apologize to you for my use of your post... My best to you.... |
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