Ron and his whole family have been battling Covid for a month. This is a update he posted on YouTube. Good to hear things are improving and wishing him and family the best.
Watch "Where have I been? Covid-19" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Dl7xO3zMbDo
And tha man that posted that was also a contributor to the argument, so...
Sorry but your argument is a bit lacking 2 leg to walk properly...
An argument cannot EVER be reduced to the person who spoke about it...An argument is sound by itself or not in a string of arguments...
An argument is a fact or an error, or a lie, but must never be rejected because it was associated with the person who spell it...
Logic dont like strawman argument...
By the way it is easy to spot the greed pyramid controlling all corporate interests including so called fact chekers...If you cannot you lack computer skill to research...It take 10 minutes nowadays to LINK all enterprises on earth to 3 CEO more powerful than most states on earth...
Internet is totally destructive but also could be totally redemptive... It depend how we use it and who control it...
In our case the graph calculus relating all corporations on earth by way of weighted influences upon each other is an easy calculus... Try it...
A swiss neutral enterprise has already do all the job... But some others did it too...
A cue: Vanguard, Blackrock and i forget the third one...
No graph ever produce for sure by itself a conspiracy theory or ever promote it, it is just a "fact" to PONDER....
But if a pyramid of power exist, thinking that this pyramid will not act to preserve his interest is a bit "naive"....Is it a conspiracy?
I dont mind about the word used....Reality speak without words...
Now i will go back to Pat Martino music...I need it....
tony, Facebook’s "fact checkers" are funded by vaccine companies. That is ALSO on the internet. So not EVERYTHING on the net is true. We ALL need to weed through the info carefully. Good luck! Btw, my name is Elmer J Fudd millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht. 😄👍
Tony your reading skills suck, I'm sure they are directly related to your personality. I stated I am not anti Vax. But your to busy doing the best you can to disrespect people. Your great personality shining thru. Now I understand why you don't know anyone with covid, because you have no friends. If most people don't know anyone who got covid than why get Vax? Your quote not mine. I personally know about 20 people who had covid plus a friend of mine who died last year so I don't deny it exist.
If someone look for truth the only way in a field where we are not expert, is looking for experts that are not PAID for...In my list i had 2 nobel winner prize and 2 inventors of the 2 main technology used in these pandemy among other experts i even have 2 world renowned vaccines experts who has worked at the highest level of this technology in corporations but dare to spell their truth at high cost for them...I forgot 2 of the most well known doctors in the world influential in the treatment of covid at their own risk at the cost of retributions from corporations...Why they would spell their truth for NO PERSONAL gain?
They are all censored....
None of my experts are paid by an agency, or a corporations, or a government...
All these experts had many things to loss and nothing to gain by saying their truth...This do not prove that they are right at all but this prove that we at least must listen to them very ATTENTIVELY...
After the experts in research and medecine we must look for the general socio-political-economical forces at play in this pandemy... ( i dont speak here about the Rockfeller cult by conspiracionist)
But it is a bit naive to think that putting money in medecine will not totally pervert the relation between a doctor and his patient...
This part of research is really easier to look for anyway... It is only a pyramid of power and greed easy to spot...
After that connecting all dots in a probability bayesian grid and we can decide what is the right decision for ourself without judging others...
But beware the price to stay awake is only an added burden... Then go back to sleep if you dont want to think...
Disclaimer: Where used the word "hear" I more accurately should have used "research". Btw, I got rid of Television in early 2006. Never missed it for a second.
"Zuckerberg's original name was Greenberg. Probably changed to throw people off that his Grandfather was David Rockefeller. CIA is behind Facebook. I've NEVER joined or even saw a Facebook page, no thanks."
Tell me. Do you have a spreadsheet to keep track of all the conspiracy theories?
Zuckerberg's original name was Greenberg. Probably changed to throw people off that his Grandfather was David Rockefeller. CIA is behind Facebook. I've NEVER joined or even saw a Facebook page, no thanks.
"My daughters friend is double Vax and went into the emergency room last week with covid because he can't breath, so they have him on oxygen. My buddies friend is 59 and double Vax he got the vid 4 weeks ago and was told he would be on oxygen for life. My tenant who is Vax, just sent me a text today sending me a FYI stating he has the vid. So I would like to believe the Vax is working and I'm not an anti Vax, but the facts that I'm personally hearing about are not very positive. "
If that is true, then my advise to anyone that knows you, would be to get as far away from you as possible.
Most people don't even know anyone that got Covid, but somehow you know every statistical anomoly in existence.
Why is it that all the anti-vaxers like yourself are always "hearing" things? They never have statistical data to support any of their BS.
A whole "pandemic" then vaccine program happening was more than hinted about a number of different times many years ago, many clues given, insiders talking. The premise had been in movies a couple of times etc. This situation we are in now didn't just naturally happen or occur. I truly care about everyone here, even any scammers that may be here as well. Good luck.
Zuckerberg's original name was Greenberg. Probably changed to throw people off that his Grandfather was David Rockefeller. CIA is behind Facebook. I've NEVER joined or even saw a Facebook page, no thanks.
"I hear health care workers constantly say most all hospitalized "covid" patients are vaccinated. Oh well, I'm not disputing your experience. Hmmm"
You hear? Where exactly are you hearing this? Facebook?
Are you one of the dupes that look for lies and Mark Zuckerberg's algorithm helps you find them? Try listening to medical professionals when you're looking for medical facts. Do you ask Tucker Carlson for recommendations on DAC's?
I hear health care workers constantly say most all hospitalized "covid" patients are vaccinated. Oh well, I'm not disputing your experience. Hmmm
Are you "hearing" it from those same sites you tell us to go look at? That would explain the misinformation, or you're just making it up.
The "vaccines" should prevent people from getting sick. That was the idea from the beginning. That is why people elected to take it. Now the story has changed. Why??
No one ever said or even inferred that, that I know of, and I've listened intently when the medical experts spoke. How is it you can twist words so easily to fit your narrative?
I work at a large academic medical center in the SE U.S. - and our current breakdown of unvaccinated to vaccinated COVID inpatients is approximately 80/20. However, of those presently in the ICU and on ventilators, almost 100% are unvaccinated. I have no dog in this fight - just stating our numbers. I wouldn't wish virus this on anyone - vaccinated OR unvaccinated.
The "vaccines" should prevent people from getting sick. That was the idea from the beginning. That is why people elected to take it. Now the story has changed. Why??
If I had a patient (or a clinic) who was medically exempt from vaccination, I would certainly sign off on that patient. I work in an ED so it has not come up.
pcc67
The vax is preventing MOST people who get it from becoming ill enough to require hospitalization. >99% of people hospitalized for COVID are not vaccinated. Yes, some people will get sick regardless. The idea also is when enough people get vaccinated the virus will be better controlled. Quick question, you don't trust the US government or you dont trust any government?
If the arguments is constructive you will learn a lot from it.
The problem is a string of constructive arguments exist only in a sound continuous thinking process...
The thinking process was almost stopped a long time ago about many subject matter: being a pandemy or what is "sound" and any other claimed setlled matters by/for any group of interest or lobbies in the large sense of the word, groups aligned with a ready made position of "interests"...
We know enough about sound to create dac technology but it does not means that we understand what sound is...This technological possibility hide also our lack of understanding of what a "sound" is as musch as it reveal a relative understanding of what it is....For "sound" this state of the matter result of the complexities related to the neurophysiology of sound perception and on the other hand the recording powerful technologies...
In science or in human affairs it is less important to be right than to be honest with oneself...Because it is more important to be able to correct ourself at the right time than being right from the beginning...
No one can always drive without few errors in his lifetime...
Then if there exist constructive arguments, there exist also constructive people and discussions...
pcc67 people can believe whatever they want (what do I care?) but a lot of those people are basing their beliefs on questionable information from questionable sources. That doesnt seem like a good way to come to conclusions though. I only know one person who has contracted covid after their vaccination, and those symptoms were minor. So who's right? Well, that's why I rely on statistical data from reliable sources. Not aunt Jenny's post on Facebook. Nor what Aunt Jenny heard from her hairdresser about a nurse she knows. God bless aunt Jenny but she tends to beilieve questionable "facts." I'll still have her over for thanksgiving. She's a lot of fun to be with. And I'll be playing festive music on my new (to me) Dynaudio C1's that I'm still not convinced are keepers. Fantastic bass but I feel the mids are a bit veiled, but hey, that's just what I believe. Others who own them believe otherwise. But my opinion is based on the fact I owne these speakers, and listen to them in my room with my equipment.
It seems like in audio people think ONLY with a binary alternative and stick to their choices without investigating the facts UNDER these FALSE alternative: vaxx or not vaxx...
I will not go further...
Because like in audio, objectivist/subjectivist, or digital/analog the simplistic alternatives hide the problem which is never simple or all black and all white...
We dont even know what sound is,but many think they understand what it is; imagine understanding what to do in a pandemy with all the multiple sciences field to ponder with all the various human acitivities in society and understand all at the same times?
All brainwashed people think in alternatives opposed to their choice and scapegoat the opposite...It is way simpler than going thinking all night about the truth of what is " sound" and what to do in a pandemy...
This division now separate friends,family, nations...
All that because the usual brain cannot face complex problem which are never reducible to childish alternatives...
Only very rationnal mind and especially free mind could think for themselves in panicked crowds...
I think the truth at the end of an enigma is where Sherlock Holmes pointed to us long time ago : the dogs are not barking....
I am happy having seen the video that all is ok for Ron...
Desltz if you own a clinic , would you sign a medical exemption for your patients who is medically qualified for exemptions to not take the vaccines?if not why?
First I wish Ron families all good recovery. Iam also a frontliner . I’ve seen enough at work, I normally read scientist findings who used to work at Pfizer for many years.They are expert on this field.i respect people who decide for their life. At work we respect the vAccinated and the unvaccinated.My only recommendation do you own research on both side, so you will have a balance information before you put something in your body. FYI mask, washing, social distance al works.
Arch2, who cares what people believe. At what point did we determine that we had to control what people believe. Facts are not even facts anymore. You don't believe me, go talk to LGBT and convince them there is only 2 genders. As far as how well the shot works, I don't know. So far I'm not impressed. My daughters friend is double Vax and went into the emergency room last week with covid because he can't breath, so they have him on oxygen. My buddies friend is 59 and double Vax he got the vid 4 weeks ago and was told he would be on oxygen for life. My tenant who is Vax, just sent me a text today sending me a FYI stating he has the vid. So I would like to believe the Vax is working and I'm not an anti Vax, but the facts that I'm personally hearing about are not very positive. I want to believe in the Vax and I'm know covid is real. But I don't have that much confidence in the Vax from what I seeing. Most my friends are vaxed and many have had covid. I don't think 10 months with the Vax is enough to say it's the savior. Truth be known there probably better Vaxs out there from other countries. I don't trust government whether it's left or right. So if people are skeptical I understand why and I won't judge them like so many have. Most importantly I believe in freedom of choice, no matter the subject. The facts are the government is over reaching with everything.
@desltz -- thank you for serving on the front line.
Back in April of this year, a good friend of mine lost his mother and brother (only 56) within 15 days of each other. Both were unvaccinated.
I wish a speedy recovery for Ron and his family. I really appreciated the video. He never comes off as preachy but it's clear that he is using his own example to show what COVID can do.
@pcc67 it’s not alternate opinions that are the probelm, it’s the alternate facts. For some reason many people are going to believe what aunt jenny sent them over facebook versus reliable sources. Tell me what I want to hear, so I can belive what I want.
Why is there so much hate here? Are people hating because other people have different opinions? Who cares, really who the hell cares if opinions are different, why is this a problem. Where do any of you get off thinking that your opinion is anymore important than anyone else? Your opinion means everything to you just like there opinion means everything to them. What a bunch of inconsiderate. aholes. Really sick of the you better think like me or I will bring on the hate. You are very ugly people. Here is an idea, grow up and try to respect others. Stop thinking your opinion is the only opinion. Do I want to post this, yeah and I don't give a f.
dseltz, there you go again with the facts. You’re trying to relate to those who refuse to listen because it doesn’t square with the (supposed) reality they desire to live in.
Vaccination is a personal medical issue and decision. Should be discussed with your physician not debated or discussed on the internet in a hifi forum in particular.
I am a ED physician and feel I have some expertise in this field.
COVID vaccination deaths are very very rare. 0.0021% of people in the US died after recieving the COVID vaccine. Reporting requirements stipulate deaths have to be reported even if there is no evidence the death was a result of the vaccine. This reporting is true for all vaccines. And includes adverse reactions up to 7 days after vaccination. Likely the J/J has cause the death of 5 women due to blood clots. The other 9805 deaths were required to be reported even though it is unclear if the vaccine had anything to do with the deaths.
The lack of high vaccination rates is what allows varients to take hold when the occur. If vaccination rates were in the 90% range, we likely would not have had a delta varient outbreak.
It is NOT experimental
Yes, you can get COVID after vaccination, but symptoms rarely require hospitalization (less than 1% of hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated)
Science, my friends. It took a while for Copernican heliocentrism to catch on. The naysayers didnt end up changing the facts in the end.....
People make decisions. We assume those people weigh the risks of their decisions or their non-decisions. Sometimes calamity happens or is prevented. Hard to measure all the costs, both fiscal and physical, in advance. If someone took all precautions and calamity still befalls them, I can have empathy.
If people choose to take their chances and calamity befalls them, I have little empathy. We insure against clamity whether through the purchase of insurance or the existence of sufficient savings to weather the financial impacts of the storm. If you smoke and you contract a lung related disease, you made your choice. If you are obese and don’t take care of your body and Jerry Springer has to cut you out of your home with a chainsaw and extract you with a forklift, you made your choice.
If you examine objective Covid data and choose not to get vaccinated, you made your choice. If you choose to get vaccinated, you made your choice. If you weren’t prepared financially for the consequences of your decisions, you made your choice. A post Covid gofundme campaign won’t trigger generosity from those who weighed their options in advance. Kinda like building your home on a river bank, floods happen.
Wasn't this the guy who did the YouTube Tekton Impact review in 2019? The one that Eric from Tekton claimed he paid for and was then upset that it wasn't 100% glowing? Even after the reviewer started backtracking on some of his negative remarks? Review was pulled but you can still see the fallout in comments from chat sites from the time.
I got the impression that he had not been vaccinated, and regretted it but didn't want to mention it one way or the other so as to avoid controversy. I think his message was still clear; get vaccinated. I don't think that he was asking for money or pity.
By the way isochroism, I loved your new spelling of "sensorship".
Awww, is the big guy afraid to get a needle put in his arm? So you went looking for something online that you could use as an excuse so you wouldn't have to let people know you were a scaredy-cat ? They give out lollipops to those who are afraid as a reward for having been brave? Will be difficult for you as you will most likely be hyperventilating from stress which will be exasperated by the mask which is not only a major hinderence in getting enough oxygen into your body, but is essentially the same as a prison that is stripping you of all rights and freedoms.
As far as Ron goes, it's terrible that anyone should have to go through that. It was the part of wife being in hospital, then kids got sick, he got sick that the story got real.
And that, is what reality would have been like for waaaaaaaay more people if no measures had been taken.
Curious as to his vaccination status. I'm going to guess not. Reading between the lines, his use of "Church" as well as the severity of the symptoms. Suspect he didn't reveal as he didn't want to alienate part of his audience. If I had almost lost my son, and if I and my wife had not been vaccinated, I would be asking people to get the vaccine so as to hopefully avoid what I had gone through. Bit cowardly... His post came across to me as a plea for money. I'm sure the hospital bills are putting a second strangle hold on him which is the last thing you need after a traumatic experience such as that
Never been a fan of his reviewing style. There is an artificial quality to his oh so polite presentation which borders on being sanctimonious.
Having said all that, I am glad he and his family got through it.
nonoise, YouTube just stopped showing "dislike" numbers on all videos, that is in itself sensorship. They don't allow videos that don't go along with their agenda. Bitchute allows TRUTHS and freedom. Your gifs of a demonic nature give you away in themselves. 🤔
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