I may be late to this party, and my thought is not an integrated but...
You could get a benchmark LA4 Pre and Pass Labs XA 25 for less than $8,000. The construction looks and feels bulletproof.
I have these driving my Rockport Atria IIs, sourcing from an Esoteric K-01xs.
You can probably find these available for home auditioning - also the reviews of these components are consistent and match my experience. If you just want to LISTEN great, but there is nothing to tweak or play with or tubes to roll!
I bought SS components these a few years into my retirement - but then got the "fiddling" bug and built an SET kit and then designed and built a PP fully balanced 6SN7-300B amp.
The XA25 is often back in the system though!
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I'm expecting the delivery of my Atoll IN200 evo (said to be much better / closer to the IN300 sig sound that ABA loved in his review) with the DA100 card in it to help consolidate my system also (audio refinement / yba separates). Fingers crossed that the new IN200 evo sound improvement is that significant and is enough with my 91db efficient ProAc Studio 148 speakers...
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Sorry to keep pummeling this thread, but just read this on Brent's website: Same amp!
"This is the original 1950s RCA black plate that will never be duplicated. This is probably the last time they will be offered at this price. Good supply now, but when they are gone..... Warm blackplate sound with a nice top end. MATCHED PAIRS ARE JUST $109.00. CLIENT COMMENTS: "Hi Brent, Wanted to give you an update. Tubes arrived just as you said they would. Thanks for being in the business you are in, and running it the way that you do. Changes in my PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP are not subtle. Tightened bass, liquid lush (but not syrupy) midrange! Increased height and depth to soundstage. But to me most importantly, the Beryllium tweeters on my beloved Usher BE-718 “Tiny Dancers” are now tamed! What was tizzzz is now sustained shimmer on cymbals. All this with only around 12 hours on the tubes. I suspect things will continue to change, and not for the worse. Thank you!! R.J." "
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@ezstreams
You did read this, right? I see here in this you just have the 2 gain tubes, whereas my EVO400 has 4 gain tubes, so yes 2 is all you need. But I noticed this quote from there:
If you want to go to a "larger" tube like a 6550, KT88, or KT120 the result may be a little more "pop" to the music, and while the bass may appear to go a little deeper, it will not be as "round" as an EL34.
A little less round is what you are looking for, yes? It's also worth stating some of those bigger tubes can last 10,000 hours, reportedly.
There are plenty of PrimaLuna threads here on Audiogon, but after searching and if you don’t specifically find what you are looking for perhaps start a new thread regarding your particular issue/desire?
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@audphile1 Yeah, I could see that. If you recall about 6 months ago when I was searching for a warmer, thicker midrange sounding power cable and got the Audioquest Hurricane, as Squeeze/squeeze which is quite a bit cleaner and thinner sounding than Roon, combined with these RCA cleartops was a little thin and bright, even for me! As I love my details and transparency.
The gap has narrowed now between softwares, but Roon still is richer and thicker than squeeze/squeeze, so matched up with these thinner cleaner RCA’s I suppose that is why I don’t mind Roon 90% of the time of late.
Like I said I have yet to try another tube, heard good things about the Brimar’s and they are also on my list.
@ezstreams for sure along with the bass leaning and tightening which is what I focused on above, you may find the midrange/treble has leaned out too much as well- I suggest reading other threads for information and talking to Brent or Andy (I believe he only talks on Friday’s) for advice- I am a tube rolling rookie. But hey, you think power cables are a rabbit hole? Be careful with your tube appetite
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Interesting…the RCA Cleartop 12AU7 I purchased from Andy’s Vintage Tube Services were pretty thin and bright sounding in my then Rogue RP1 preamp. I tried them in the Rogue ST100 amp as well and got exactly the same results.
Ended up selling them. The 12AU7 that worked great for me were Brimar CV4003, Gold Lion.
YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) - it’s all component/system dependent.
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@mclinnguy that was over the top nice of you to run that experiment! It looks like he’s selling specially matched pairs of RCA Clear Top with side getter for $99/pair. I’m going to try tube purchasing and rolling those as an initial toe in the warer trial based on youy experiment results.
p.s., what does YMMV standbfor?
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@ezstreams
Thank you- actually the system has changed so much this year -the amp I am using right now isn’t even listed in my virtual system yet.
It has been a while since I tested tube rollin’ in the EVO400 myself, so no worries, I needed a good excuse to experience the differences again.
Quick answer: Yes, absolutely the bass tightened up with my RCA Cleartops over the Primaluna stock 12AU7’s.
I still have the Prima Luna OEM 12AU7’s in the carrier spots on the sides (#1 and 6 spots) and I left in the 1960’s Mazda/Brussells f33 rectifiers for all listening. (I think that is what they are ) And RCA Cleartops in the middle 4 spots. I listened to Buddy Guy’s - Blues Singer ’Lucy Mae Blues’ and ’I love the Life I Live’ which have always had a little loose sounding bass to my ears, and I recall it being quite bloomy in the past. I also listened to one of my favourite basstest tracks Holly Cole Train Song. Didn’t touch volume, or anything else, just turned off the pre amp, let it cool a bit, and changed tubes.
First I put in all 4 Primaluna 12AU7’s back in the middle 4 spots- Buddy Guy sounded MUCH louder, and fuller everywhere, and the bass bloomier/less tight- I had an urge to turn it down, I only lasted 5 seconds but clearly obvious-I quickly changed to Holly Cole. Surprisingly I didn’t notice this as much, I believe it was a little looser, would need to go back and forth again to be sure, but after I heard the additional sibilance in her voice it was hard to focus on the bass again!
I put in just the middle 2 RCA’s as suggested, and yes bass became much tighter and controlled- and the loudness I experienced was gone. And just as important Holly’s voice sounded less sibilant.
Putting back in the other 2 RCA’s in #2 and #5 positions to have all 4 back in front, bass was leaner again, but minimally so, perhaps half as much as the middle positions? so Warren was correct in the middle two positions made the most difference.
Now I am wondering if bass, while a little fuller and bloomier with the mix of RCA and PrimaLuna OEM’s compared to all 4 RCA’s might have been more even-keeled? Hmmm, would need more testing to determine a preference personally, but your question is answered and my curiousity satisfied.
As always, my system my ears, and this is with a Zavfino Silver Dart power cable into the back of this EVO400: YMMV- this is my result- pretty obvious actually.
And these RCA Cleartops are the only 12AU7 tubes I have experimented with so far. I planned to get more but after getting these felt the improvement was good enough, and decided to do other things first. Bugle Boys, Telefunkens may be nicer, and for your concerns tighter still in the bass, I don’t know. But Brent Jessee has these RCA Cleartops for just $39 each- so you could get all 4 for the price of one Telefunken!
Whereas a "rabbit-hole" powercord that could tighten up the bass this much would cost many multiples of this, methinks, so a tube experiment would be good bang for the buck.
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@mclinnguy thank you for your observations. If it’s not imposing, I would appreciate you testing to see if the NOS preamp tubes you now use did tighten the bass on your system (your system A looks and I’m sure sounds fantastic!). If you can only swap tube positions 3 and 4 as @wsrrsw suggests, that would be an extremely useful test (at least for me).
I really don’t want to go down the cable rabbit hole right now. I currently have mid level Audioquest and Morrow cables throughout (fiscal conservative 😂).
Again, thank you both for your time and thoughts.
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@ezstreams On the PL HP (had one) it’s only the two inside pre tubes (3/4) you need to ungrade for something fancier to alter sound.
@mclinnguy Half ot nothing. Who would have thunk? Please don’t overdo it!
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@ezstreams Congratulations on your retirement, welcome to the club. It is off golf season for me currently, so I am listening to my system about 12 hours a day, some critically, some background as I browse forums and sometimes post, like now, but it is a wonderful life.
Looks like I am much more productive than @wsrrsw , I get half of my nothing to do done at the end of the day.
Plenty of wonderful suggestions in here, I am sure you would enjoy many of the recommendations given, and you will never know what an Accuphase or Coda integrated will sound like in your system until you try it, but I wouldn’t be so anxious to replace what you have based on the possibility of a few future tube replacements. Knowing what I know, which is half as much as half of the people in here:
First: I can’t speak to your integrated exactly, but I have the Primaluna EVO 400 pre, and I can tell you changing the tubes to older ones (NOS) from the ones supplied radically transformed it- it is not the same pre-amp at all. From memory I can’t confirm that the bass went from a bloaty ponderous flab to the tight defined tuneful bass I have now, but I recall resolution and clarity being transformative- I could put the stock tubes back in and compare just the bass if you are interested, but then this is a pre and not an amp so I don’t know if that information would translate. As some have stated in here call a reputable tube seller (mentioned in this thread) and get some advice- they might even give you re-buy back if it doesn’t work out.
Second: I didn’t see cables mentioned- but I skimmed the last 2 pages and didn't check your original post again, so I may have missed it- but you can get much better bass with upgrading your power cables/interconnects, so that may be an option.
Lastly, don’t think solid state amps are problem free- I have had issues and repairs with everyone I have ever owned- everything has a life. Even the reported wonderful, bullet-proof, efficient, and environmentally friendly class D amps- my Nord NC500’s went through both of the power supplies in 4 years- tubes can last longer than that.
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A lot of the suggestions I have owned, and I would not consider them a good replacement for tubes, except 1 which may have not been mentioned.
I can recommend the item but with a huge caveat. It is an incredible sounding Interated. Warm and buttery smooth with the first 90 watts Class A. It is the KRELL K-300i.
Krell K-300i integrated amplifier | Stereophile.com
Krell K-300i review | What Hi-Fi?
The reason I cannot fully recommend it is because today KRELL is a ___ show and maybe bankrupt and closing. There are used units that are 1/2 price online and maybe some dealers looking to unload their remaining stock.
If I wanted a tubey SS integrated I would get the K-300i and use these guys for any repair service. Krell Service and Repair | George Meyer AV
I used them to do a warranty repair on my K-300i for a pin that was stuck in the RCA connection. It was a cosmetic thing, but I wanted it officially fixed before I sold it. The repair shop said they can do anything on KRELL gear.
Krell k-300i integrated amplifier with digital board / DAC installed For Sale - US Audio Mart
BTW - I sold it to buy the KRELL DUO 175XD amp which is in the same lineup as the K-300i integrated. Never should have sold the 175XD amp.
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CODA, Ayre, BAT, or Hegel H390 used/H400 new/H590 used.
I understand your cost constraints, but a separate preamp and amplifier will outperform the integrateds......but probably about $10,000 for the combo
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There are lots of different sounds available on the market. Well regarded companies have a wide variety of sound types. There are flashy "high end sounding", holographic, natural, overly powerful impactful, overly warm. At the center is natural and musical, sounding like the real thing. I understand different people are satisfied by different sounds, although I think there is a propensity as we get older for most (but not all) to gravitate towards more natural and musical. Tinny high resolution systems tend to wear on experienced ears. I try and allow for variation, but some brands fall outside of serious sounding audio and to me solid state Luxman falls outside that circle. It sounds like it looks. Sparkling analytical with a serious under represented midrange and nearly devoid of rhythm and pace... the heart and soul of music. Each time I listen to them... and I am including their very expensive pieces I am very disappointed. I try to give good advice... the kind that will hold up for most people over time as they learn and change. It looks just great... but to me it is the kind of sound that is just too far from natural to get excited about and so I try at least case some doubt, so that if someone is inclined, they listen a bit longer to it, so as to be really sure that is what they want.
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@re-lar-kvothe thank you and the many others who recommended the Luxman 507/509 integrated. Lots of love it seems for them. @ghdprentice I am curious why you sounded so down on Luxman when you posted your thoughts earlier?
@coltrane1 I hear you and your point. In this “last significant investment” in my system, I’m looking to improve the sound quality as I tried (hard to do with words) to explain in my original post. If I can get the SQ I “desire” with an integrated that doesn’t require multiple power tube replacements over the next 20 years I’m planning on living and enjoying music, then that’s a winner!
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Tube replacement costs are simply a part of ownership of tubes. You have to weigh is it worth it to spend $8k on an unknown.
Tubes aren’t ultra expensive. So I don’t understand why anyone would consider giving up tubes for $500 every 3 years versus spending $8k on something else. So the cost of tubes is $150 every year. That’s a fiscally conservative cost in my book. What am I missing?
If you simply want something new I get wanting something else. But that doesn’t mean it will be better.
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Find a used Luxman 509Z. I see them as low as $7500. I went through the "retirement gauntlet" over the past 2 years. I tried many integrated amps. Prices ranging from $4K to $20K. The 509Z was the best to my ears.
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Sounds like you’re interested in a low maintenance solution, so reliability and servicability are important criteria along with sound quality. I’m not a huge fan of the esoteric cottage shop brands because of having tried to find service for exotic gear in the past. The words ’ephemeral businesses’ come to mind. It’s in the nature of the hobby, I suppose. My shortlist would include these three:
Luxman 505Z/507Z Heavily rooted in the analog world, the only real question is if the $3,000 value add is there on top of the $5995 price of the 505Z. Otherwise, they are impeccable sounding, fully featured and gorgeous. Still need a DAC/Streamer.
Mark Levinson 5805 on sale for $6500, is world class in every regard. Stereophile Class A rated and lacking nothing. 125/250 W/ch, massive power supply, MM/MC phono, great DAC, w/MQA, aptX Bluetooth, dedicated HP amp. It’s all there.
McIntosh MA-252. If you like the retro-MC-275 styling, and fancy a hybrid tube front end / 100W/Ch Class AB power amp with bulletproof build, here you go. Just bring your own DAC/streamer. At $4995 there would still be room in your budget.
Personally, the MA-252 puts a grin on my face, it’s just so 😎 cool. And the 505Z? Who ever really regretted buying a Luxman? But the Mark Levinson, though, is such a value, so complete an offering, I’d be hard pressed to walk away.
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I’m currently using a Primaluna Dialogue HP Premium integrated amp which I’ve enjoyed for many years. Here’s where the “fiscal conservative” part comes in; this amp has 8 power tubes. Even with Primaluna’s great low tube stress design concept, I’m not looking forward to replacing power tubes every couple years with my retirement bonus listening time. Also, I’d like to get additional damping factor bass control than my current amp provides. I love the tube midrange and treble range sound, but would like an upright bass to sound more like a wood instrument (hard to describe in words) and hear more natural note attack and decay
The Yamaha A-S2200 ($4500) or the A-S3200 ($8000) are both tubey sounding SS (no tubes) amps with the higher damping factor, tubey midrange, etc, a nice step up from that primaluna. The Yamaha sound guys take a long time to try and make sure their stuff sounds as close as possible to the instruments they make. The sound of these amps changes significantly after about 120 to 150 hrs of burn-in (They don't ship from the factory burnt-in).
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Excellent selections are offered herein. I'd suggest having a look at the Kinki EM-1X integrated amp, which would use about half of your budgeted funds.
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Merry Christmas everyone!!
@vuch and @corelli thank you for those words of wisdom. I know my system placement and room treatment is far far from what would help get the most out of my current equipment. Unfortunately, I don’t have the opportunity for a dedicated listening space much less room. It’s in a large shared recroom that includes a pool table and play area for my now 6 grandchildren (wildest is 7 and youngest born 5 days ago). Keeping it protected from the grandkids is a primary objective of placement.
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@vuch i couldn't agree more with your observations. My secondary systems are all capable of providing a large portion of musical enjoyment to be certain. Do they do everything my primary system can do? Certainly not. But in some regards, with the right music, they can do things I might enjoy as well or even more than my primary system.
With attention to detail (and especially component matching), you do not need to spend a fortune to obtain a wealth of musical satisfaction. In many ways, working with a budget and trying to max out performance at a price point is a heck of a lot of fun!
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@ezstreams, thank you for the kind words. However, don't be distracted by equipment in regards to audio nirvana.
I also have a mid-fi rig that I've put less than $1k into getting it off the ground this last year. I have it set up using all that I've learned regarding speaker placement, listening position, component matching, isolation, etc. I really enjoy that rig almost as much as the main rig! It's crazy but true! The rig definitely shows its limitations as the volume increases but as long as I keep it within its limitations the sonics are very enjoyable!
The other benefit is that I can put any pressing quality album on the turntable and it sounds good. With the main rig, a bad or average pressing sounds terrible so I have to take care to obtain the best sounding pressings for the main rig. That can be a real pain instead of just going to a record store and buying an album without thinking of pressing quality.
I believe that setting up the stereo properly and addressing the room may account for 50% of the sonics quality! Addressing these issues can make you fall in love with your rig all over again!
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@vuch I whole-heartedly agree that PL makes a pretty good amp, for the money. I also share your thought/“warning” regarding the ever present upgade-itus audiophiles tend to be aflicted by. That said, I’ve enjoyed the PL integrated for 7 years and figure if I don’t upgrade from it now, I never will.
I can see by your posted system that you are way further down the path to audio nirvana than I will ever be…what an awesome system you’ve put together!
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You’re not going to have to replace tubes every couple of years.
8k probably won’t get you too much further than you are with the PL. The rest of your gear probably works great with the PL. They're not bad amps for the money matched with the right speakers. I had your model amp in my rig for a while and then bought an EVO400 power amp so I'm familiar with the brand although I've moved on from the EVO400 a while ago.
When you upgrade one thing it can lead to finding other weaknesses in all of the other gear/cables, etc of the rest of your rig. Unless you’re committed to addressing everything along the way and the increasing expense, I’d recommend staying with what you have and perhaps dialing in the room.
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Ezstreams, I’m 70. That Pass 250 weights about 105 pounds. I use a hydraulic lift
move it on and off my rack. That said my next choice would be the HEGAL. It’s warmish with excellent bass and good detail. I enjoy it as much as my Pass. If you are looking for neutral with just a hint of warmth in the midrange that would be Accuphase. Talk about build quality. The best I ever seen. Attention to detail is incredible. I don’t know what to say about my Macintosh other than it has tubes in the preamp stage. The sound is audiophile sounding but nothing special. I only purchased it because I always wanted those blue meters. Now that I have it, I always listen with the meter turned off.Go figure 🤣
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@dwest1023 those are very well reviewed and respected amps! I can only imagine how fun it would be to enjoy and compare them!! Thank you for your assessment and comparison observations from your systems perspective
That said, I can’t imagine physically moving them in and out of a system. Other than price, the Pass’s weight is a concern at my age a 3 herniated disc surgeries over the years. However, my so played football and is still good friends with several offensive linemen 😂
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I own PASS 250, Hegal 390, Accuphase 380 and Macintosh 352 hybrid. I love the sound of all 4 and I rotate them. The Pass is the forever amp. You can’t go wrong with it if you can spend the dollars. I’ve owned the pass 60. Its a very warm sound amp that is very engaging but may not suite all taste. The 250 has all the audiophile qualities. Warm, detail, holographic. Non fatiguing. Very good bass control, without being too tight or too wooly. Class A sound up to 15 watts. There have been many good recommendations here so I don’t think your decision is any easier. I can say the pass is built like a tank. It’s built to last and holds its value. Superb support if that matters to you.
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Have you considered any Hegel Integrated Amps? I have the H390 - solid state pre-amp/ amp / DAC which delivers 250wpc and damping is 4,000 (not a typo)! An H390 would certainly be in your price range as they have now introduced the H400 which is similar in wpc and damping and is still under your budget at $6995.
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After I retired, I sold my separates for a Marantz model 30 integrated amp. Almost as soon as we started listening, my wife and I agreed that the model 30 sounded better: imaging, realistic tonal quality, incredible dynamics and bass clarity. It's class D and runs cool for hours. Speakers are Paradigm Studio 100 v4's, Sony XA5400ES SACD player, EverSolo DMP-A6 streamer, and Bryston BDA-3 DAC.
At my age, I prefer fewer components (less wiring), solid state, under 35 lb, and no sharp corners.
Nothing in my system cost a fortune, and I enjoy the sound immensely. That's fiscal conservatism, of sorts.
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What about the Musical Fidelity M-6Si integrated amp? I am VERY surprised it sounds this good in my system.
The M6si offers excellent performance, facilities, and power. As per the Musical Fidelity web site “Internally, the M6si is configured as 2 independent monobloc power amps with a separate preamp. It is, in fact, a preamp with 2 monobloc power amps that just happen to share the same casework. The M6si has 220wpc. It has very low distortion, outstanding noise ratio and extremely flat frequency response.
The sound quality of my M6Si is excellent. I suggest you give it an audition.
Please see M6Si link
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Hi, I recently did the same thing of researching and replacing an older tube amp in my early retirement period. I settled on a Yamaha A-S2200. Really enjoying this amp. It has nice detail, imaging and kick. Won’t break the bank and will leave you with $$ for more music. Good luck and enjoy retirement.
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Hi, I recently did the same thing of researching and replacing an older tube amp in my early retirement period. I settled on a Yamaha A-S2200. Really enjoying this amp. It has nice detail, imaging and kick. Won’t break the bank and will leave you with $$ for more music or other retirement goodies. Good luck and enjoy retirement.
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Accuphase if you can find one. Luxman or pass labs otherwise. Can’t miss with any of those.
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For reliability and sound, as well as ease if use:
any Luxman
any Accuphase
Pass Int 25
CJ CAV 60 S2
Belcanto E1x
Resolution Audio CA 50
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Try a tube preamp with a solid state amplifier. Some of the ARC preamps only have a couple of 6H30 tubes. A slice of tube heaven, but greatly reduced tube costs.
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If you want to simply relax and enjoy the music with a piece of gear that will put a smile on your face ever time you use it, then your shortlist should definitely include the Luxman 505 100/150 W/Ch or 507 110/200 W/ch Z series and the Mark Levinson 5805 125/250 W/ch - On offer now from Music Direct for well within your price range. While quite different in many ways, both are extraordinarily well designed, well built, and well supported, and in addition to their long pedigrees, have fabulous sound quality.
I’m not a big fan of minimalist one knob designs - 50 years in this hobby has given me an appreciation for well conceived and well executed feature sets. Nor does most esoteric European hifi gear appeal to me for the same reason I’m not a fan of esoteric European sports cars - It’s all fun until something breaks. Then, get out you big checkbook and be prepared to wait. Ask anyone who’s ever owned a Lotus. or, back in the day, a Tandberg, great sounding electronics and miserable reliability with perpetual backorders on parts.
I’d also be wary of Krell, whom I would otherwise recommend, due to the unfortunate death of their founder earlier this year. Their website redirects to a Thai online soccer betting site (!) indicates they’re still notfully running the business. This is unfortunately an all too common situation for small business - no continuity plan, When they lose the founder, they become essentially rudderless.
One last recommendation, The McIntosh MA-252 Hybrid Integrated Amp. 100/160 W/ch. Nodding to the MC-275 School of Design, visually it’s a bit of a love it / hate it proposition, but there’s no denying the heritage, the build, or the sound quality. As for me, It puts a grin on my face - and my ears. At $4500 it's an absolute steal.
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There's nothing wrong with a newer McIntosh integrated.
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I'm primarily a tube guy but also really enjoy my Luxman 550AXii. Warmth of tubes with some solid state "grunt" for the bass. Since getting it my tube amps have been getting less use.
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Maybe look into a Soulnote A2 in your price range
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Atoll. I recently auditioned the SDA 200 and ordered an IN300 amp for my retirement system. The IN400 is supposed to be even better but out of my price range. Check out reviews by the British Audiophile. I also listened to the Bel Canto E1X all-in-one (long time Bel Canto fan and owner)—wow! Bested the Atoll but at a higher price point. Good luck — there’s a lot to choose from.
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Check out Lavardin ITx. Great SS integrated that is famous for its analogue sound.
Also well known for their build quality.
I’m also just entering retirement and have sensitivity to high frequencies. I’ve been slowly converting my system to Audio Note.
Good luck
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After years of tube amps but also facing retirement (congrats btw), I too decided that 9 tubes were too many. I had a Rogue Cronus Magnum II and loved it. My love for Rogue products got me to upgrade to the Pharaoh II and couldn’t be happier. I’d suggest you add it to your auditions. Best of luck!
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@ezstreams Congratulations on your retirement! Eat healthy and live as long as the good Lord allows you too!
My buddy had the same thought process as you have concerning his desire to decrease the number of tubes in his search for an integrated amp. He bought a Rogue Cronus Magnum III integrated amp. It sounds really good in his setup with his floor standing Fyne speakers. It replaced his Audio Research LS2 preamp and Quick Silver mono blocks. The Rogue integrated performs well!
Godspeed to you!
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Class A solid state (my Musical Fidelity Class A is _very_ close in sound to my OTL tube amp)
OR one of the well reviewed newer Class D amps where the filtering occurs after the feedback loop.
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I'm just going to add the Advance Paris A12 Integrated ($3700) with phono, DAC, Subwoofer out and cross-over, tube pre-amp, dual mono power supply and more. I really think this is an underpriced amp by a company looking to built is brand name in the US. With the budget gap, you can get a killer DAC/Streamer and or a dedicated tube pre-amp, like Cary. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!!
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Find a used 1st-generation Creek Destiny integrated amp. They sound wonderful, the only downside is that they’re RCA interconnects only.
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ezstreams
Another +vote for AYRE Acoustics AX-5 Twenty Series. This particular Integrated is perfect for all genres of Jazz. Thank me later.
Happy Listening!
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I also agree with 6+ Luxman. Enjoy your retirement!!
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