Let me explain something to you jive turkeys.


All too often when I read YouTube comments on old music, a youngster will say some variation on "I love this music and it's from before I was born" or "This is my favourite band and I'm only 15 or whatever". That's great. Then, some jive turkey comes and says something like "Nobody cares about your age, snowflake.", "You think you're so special?" or "You must be proud of yourself."

Look here, bringing up one's age is not so much about the listener as it is a comment on the music. It's a compliment, not a brag. The listener is not trying to say that they are special, they are saying that the music is not merely nostalgia for old people, not a flash-in-the-pan fad, but is genuinely good music that has stood the test of time, still worth listening to. Dig?

tambey64

I haven't been called a jive turkey since Nixon was in office. It brings back good memories, believe it or not.

@coltrane1 

About that famous Maxell add.

A little trivia question. What speaker brand and model was in that ad?

Nice coltrane1, that poster is on my music room wall now. Just to the left of my wall mounted lp12.

Watchoo talkin' bout Willis?  You callin' me a Jive Turkey?  I still use the word groovy every day.  Man, it's a habit that I can' grow out of.  Don't want to.  

Yeah I remember when I was a kid and listening to doo woop.Then the Beatles and when I asked my grandfather what he listen to it was Al Jolson. But it's true Classical music even then was over 100 years old.

Reminds me of the words from a well known tune...." ji ji ji..jive talkin"

what are exactly    QUOTE   ”jive turkeys” ?  
 

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....do wait for the Stoned Ranger....;)

Or, more 'current' (*ha*), Star Trip, #2 @ the link....

...I've wanted a can of aerosol LSD, long ago.....

In my mc 'biking years', I'd longed to pull next to the driver that either wanted to drive as if asleep, or 'block' my attempt to pass and give him a blast....

"You may as well drive on acid, anyway..."  (rpm to 9K)

Good music is good music, age aside, but I particularly enjoy good music that I can tether to some specific point and time in my life. It just resonates more with the emotional side of music for me. Like reading a book as soon as it's published, and the author signed your copy as you talked about how you interpret it. So I always seek out new music, in addition to enjoying older music that thus far has been the soundtrack of my life.

My wife loves "oldies" (song's her parents grew up listening to)... I don't really connect as much with those songs. I absolutely can appreciate the emotional nostalgia of that music to her, but to me, I don't connect as much intellectually with songs/artists that came and went before my early teenage years.

I don't judge people's musical tastes in reference to their age, but I do enjoy music more in reference to my age.

@panzrwagn 

You beat me in referring those old guys.

Also, don't forget the lasting jazz, blues and swing/big band from the 1920s-1960s.

Peace.

Consider this - nobody thinks of the New York Philharmonic as a cover band. And nobody has out-Bached, Beethovened, or Mozarted those guys in over 200 years of trying. And we're still listening in amazement to what they created in a pretty short period from 1725-1825. What happened between 1950 and 1980 in popular music is no different, no less worthy, and the best will survive centuries because it is likewise that appealing. 

Woooo!!!

Flash backkkkk.

 I shouldn’t of taken all that stuff at once!

 

doug10457

You said: "To provide some perspective: A young person in 2022 saying they enjoy listening to The Doors’ “Light My Fire” (1967) is equivalent to a young person in 1967 saying they enjoy listening to Al Jolson’s “You Great Big Beautiful Doll (1911). Around 55 years between each."

You are technically correct about the years difference between the songs you have used in your example but don't really take into consideration the explosion of different genres that took place in the 60s and 70s that would give a young person of today many more options to find something they like. Popular music of 1911 was either Ragtime or somehow related to Ragtime, Classical, with Jazz and The Blues just getting started. From its start in the 50s, Rock and Roll exploded in the 60s, while Pop, Jazz, R&B, Folk, and Classical continued strong and sub-genres of rock like Metal, Acid, and Progressive were all getting started too. There was just way more diversity in the 60s and 70s making it much easier for anybody of any age to find something they like. If someone doesn't care for Ragtime, it would be difficult to find them liking much of anything that came out in 1911. So while you're correct on the time differences, it goes a little deeper than just saying they're equivalent.

@tooblue - WORK???!!!!  Maynard was a role model for me growing up, along with Eddie Haskell....

@zgas-music + 1

Dig. (For those that thought “dig” was funny, I’m a musician. All the cats I work with use Dig as a regular part of the lexicon. It’s a thang. Really. You under dig?)

Only a jive turkey would post a thread about music under the Digital Forum instead of the Music Forum. Dig?

YT has videos of people listening to a song for the first time. I watched many people reviewing the following video. The ones I hate are the ones where the reviewer does not know the age of the song or the original authors. That info will not affect the first impression of the performance.

 

 

 

 

 

Count your blessings...

Better than them sayin' the SuperBowl  half time show was freakin' awesome!

Regards,

barts

 

@fuzztone 

I play the Dire Straits New York City concert on YouTube. Out of my MacBook Air into my deck through my system the sound is awesome. I don’t watch the video but listen to the concert. Also many other artists I enjoy. 

We just brought our grandkids to Disney they rode Aerosmith rock n roll ride. There 14 and 16 years old and never heard of them. I called em snowflakes yes I did but I also said they didn't miss anything. Is this relevant to the conversation?

You are never too old or young to enjoy different music. I am 73 and since getting bak into vinyl, I found that I enjoy jazz from almost before I was born. I am not so much into the bands of my youth in the 60's. I also really enjoy classical music more these days. 

I was 20 years old in 1978 workin a summer job as a camp counselor.  Two of my 8 year old campers got into a fight.  After intervening I asked what it was about and one exclaimed that the other was insisting that Paul McCartney was in in a band before Wings.  That was the first glimmer of my impending Old Fartdom.

  Every generation should have their own music as part of their identity.  I don’t listen to much non classical these days but my general impression is that most innovation in pop music stopped in the eighties or thereabouts.  That makes it harder to claim an identity.  Nothing wrong with recycling classic rock but it does seem to be a second hand experience…

All too often when I read YouTube comments on old music, a youngster will say some variation on "I love this music and it's from before I was born" or "This is my favourite band and I'm only 15 or whatever". That's great. Then, some jive turkey comes and says something like "Nobody cares about your age, snowflake.", "You think you're so special?" or "You must be proud of yourself

."

Look here, bringing up one's age is not so much about the listener as it is a comment on the music. It's a compliment, not a brag. The listener is not trying to say that they are special, they are saying that the music is not merely nostalgia for old people, not a flash-in-the-pan fad, but is genuinely good music that has stood the test of time, still worth listening to. Dig?

If they don't dig music from the 60's, 70's, like a robot out spouts: "Your parents have not given you a proper musical education"

I am pretty sure we all can relate to those times when we were young and we “discovered” a band, or a sound that really hit us hard. For many of us that was the spark that led us into a lifetime journey in music and hifi. Why some choose to harsh the mellow I will never understand. I say celebrate that kiddo, nurture that discovery and show them some other bands and music that keeps them going. Then maybe they will become one of us, spending enjoyable moments chasing the dragon, listening to our beloved music, spending too much money, chatting with like minded friends….

I’ve not read any of the comments, I simply wanted to say this OP has articulately made a very good point, thank you for making it.

Working on lucid dreaming, but the channel keeps changing...

...and the remote needs batteries....

*L* Here, chill....

Don't get hip-notized, now....hard to know where that may go....:)

.....Icallit mellow jello....*L*