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Audiophile demographics?
Why are there a disproportional number of male audiophiles?
Not sure if this is a silly question, but speaking for myself, I have never met a female audiophile.
I am sure they exist, but their scarcity begs the question as to why.
Is it merely that men have more of the "mine is bigger than yours" mentality, do men love gadgets and tools or is it something more sinister?
Not sure if this is a silly question, but speaking for myself, I have never met a female audiophile.
I am sure they exist, but their scarcity begs the question as to why.
Is it merely that men have more of the "mine is bigger than yours" mentality, do men love gadgets and tools or is it something more sinister?
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Guys like gear. Speculation: because guys are problem solvers, we like tools (gear) that helps to these problems. We also like building things - again tools needed. Guys like bigger, larger, stronger/power (1000HP street cars). You'd be hard pressed to typically find females interested in these areas. |
yes, if you go a high end audio show, you will see... it is a whopping disparity - like 95/5... ...must be the gear, equipment, technicality - yes there is art and beauty as a successful end result in this pursuit, but the knowledge gathering, acquisition, set up etc etc of a high end rig is a very very left brain exercise... |
I know one female audiophile, but you're right about the disparity in numbers. Maybe it has to do with what you were exposed to in your youth. My wife's father used to watch boxing with her when she was a little girl, and she grew up liking to watch boxing, which IMO, is not loved by females that much. |
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@roberjerman - I don't think one example of nurture over nature is a sufficient sample to draw any conclusions. I was very young when I first heard my uncle's JBL Paragon/Mac setup and I was fascinated from the getgo. I think a similar thing has happened to many of us. Some kids are fascinated by motorcycles, some by firearms and some couldn't care less. Definitely appears like some inborn proclivities at work. |
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Unfortunately, I do not think there is actually anything nefarious going on. Something very nefarious and sinister is indeed going on. Only just not the way you think. What you just said is, finally, very sensible. Most of it, anyway. Save for the one unfortunate word. Everyone knows men and women are very different creatures with very different interests, inclinations, and abilities. There’s a tremendous amount of overlap but the differences are at the extremes, something every single one of us used to know and take for granted - until the nefarious sinister stuff came along. That it is indeed nefarious and sinister is revealed in your one word, "unfortunately". This one word gives away the game. What in the world is "unfortunate" about people not being all exactly the same? Think about it. Because the next question is, Why would anyone want to make us all the same when we’re not? |
@millercarbon You unfortunately missed the point of my use of the word "unfortunately". My comment was in response to Facten, who seemed intrigued by the possibility of "sinister" things going on. My use of the word "unfortunately" indicated that the reality of the situation was perhaps not as spicy as what he might have hoped for. I, in no way want to make us all the same. As they say, variety is the spice of life. Whether it is music, food, friends or audio equipment. |
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No their not! Men are just dumber. Does that make sense. One's just dumber than the other, No quarters given here. Same women 45 + year, Worlds longest on going WAR!!! With no blood shed!! Me and the dog on one side. The wife the goat and the bunny on the other.. pretty even so far... Things we have in common... MUSIC... other than that, man the barricades. LOL Regards |
Like vets (animal doctors not retired soldiers) women are more prevalent than their male counterparts in lots of things- musicians being one example and not just flautists and bands of old such as The Breeders, Girlshcool, Siouxie and the Banshees, Susie Quattro, Alice Coltrane, Barbara Dennerlein and Barbara Thompson etc..- also compare modern orchestras to the 50’s. Strangely not yet in the weird world of hi-fi ( though my mum still has fond memories of my folk’s first place where there was no furniture apart from a bed but there was Quad and Kefs- ESLs were too expensive even then). |
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My best female friend loves music maybe more than I do. Before Covid, she'd go to a music club 3 times a week. She plays guitar. We have 'music days' often when we listen to new music (for her anyway)on my 14K system, which really sounds amazing. I sit her in 'THE' chair, where her head is located exactly where it should be. I'm excited to hear her response to my latest upgrades... What does she say? "I think I'll lay on the floor, it's more comfortable." I guess she didn't even notice my new $1,200 chair....Women |
@gg987 Glad to virtually meet you. I certainly don't want to treat you like some sort of oddity, but it would be fair so say that you are in the minority. If you don't mind, could you answer a couple of questions. How did you become interested in audio? Why do you think that more women aren't audiophiles? |
@gg987I have been interested in audio for as long as I can remember. When I was a young teenager, I didn't listen to the music of my generation. I listed to Sinatra and Ella and Broadway etc. We had a cassette recorder and I tried to record TV musical shows I liked (Sinatra specials and others) but the quality with the mike that came with the player was awful. So I took the back off the TV and connected alligator clips to the speaker terminals. Quality of the recording was much improved! I guess I'd read it somewhere. I mostly remember my mother telling me I was going to electrocute myself. I did unplug the TV before I removed the back. I've always been fascinated by the qualities of sound reproduction, and I love music. And I always like to learn something new. I think women have traditionally not been audiophiles because they had no one to show them the way and excite them about it. I pretty much blazed my own way. My daughters are both very bright and accomplished in their careers, but were never interested in anything technical, which I think you have to be to be an audiophile. They just liked it when things worked, and they knew I could get it to work. |
Music often plays a role in the emotional lives of men. For whatever reason, we men do not give ourselves permission to feel, let alone show, many of our deepest (and often most poignant) emotions. We bury them, and we’re damn good at it. For whatever reason, women are not nearly so inhibited. Music is a place where we men can feel things, and it’s okay for us to do so. So we are more likely to value and seek a musical experience which conveys emotion. There’s more to it, but that’s one often overlooked aspect, in my opinion. For a deeper insight into the role music can play, you might check out this YouTube clip. Ironically, the audio is pretty bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXEHIHtMFL0 Duke |