I have replaced my amp and I have a second CDT, but I am still very happy with my Node N130 with a Teddy Pardo power supply. So after I get a newer ( Less than 30 year old) preamp, I might start looking at steamers again.đ
Anyone buy one yet? Thoughts?
New Denifrips streamer,
If I was in the market for a streamer, I'd probably give this a shot. I've been pretty impressed with the price-performance of Denafrips gear. I use Roon with Qobuz and Tidal subscriptions as well as a fair amount of local files. I don't really care about direct support for Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify, etc. Having a high quality power supply, i2s output, and clock inputs from my T+ DAC are nice. |
@antigrunge2 I know you greatly appreciate Peking Opera per the multiple emails we exchanged a few days ago - I really didnât know how passionate and knowledgeable you were (impressed!). As you already know, but others may not, Iâve really leaned into Huangmei Opera. Superficially, and if I were to be quite honest, itâs because I really like the traditional costumes from the Ming Dynasty. And as we both agree, our favorite repertoire is âZhao Guiying,â especially since you had three repeats in the Spotify playlist you just shared with me (TY BTW!). |
Came across the following from a member at WBF:
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/denafrips-arce-streamer-review.37487/#post-908858 |
@curiousjim my mistake over here - definitely didn't realize that. Regardless, thanks for correcting on this thread. |
@oddiofyl $1349 appears to be the price. From the YT video definitely managing expectations and being transparent that this streamer isnât for everyone - needing to be hardwired, no connect features yet for Spotify and Tidal. Maybe this will be the case of under promising and over delivering. I could see myself putting this unit paired with one of their DACs on my short list. But also hesitant since I donât want to be a guinea pig since it seems like development is still in motion. Curious to see the reviews. |
Alvin makes the limitations of the unit very clear multiple times in the video, so I do have to give him credit for that. Â It seems like their target market is quite small for the amount of time, effort, and resources that have gone into this device. Something else not mentioned so far is the requirement to have a hardwired connection to the unit. Â I'm not sure how many people have their audio equipment sitting near an ethernet port or a computer. |
@jackd That is the impression I got from viewing their video. |
No mystery about what this product is and itâs purpose. Itâs first and foremost a Roon endpoint designed to go with their DAC's which explains I2S instead of USB as itâs main output. No different in purpose than the Holo Red or the Sonore products which also have no dedicated software package. Instead of delving into something they have no experience with they concentrated on the power supply, the outputs they thought important and the casework matching their DAC;s. Not a product intended for "everyone" as there are many streamers that fit that bill. If you want or need something that works like a Node then buy one. |
We must be missing something. Why would Denafrips release their brand new ARCE streamer and not include support for Tidal and QoBuz? Was this a licensing issue or an engineering issue? Or, maybe something else? As others have posted above, support for Tidal and QoBuz are very important features. I just do not understand. Has Denafrips provided a release date when support for Tidal and QoBuz be available?  |
I have Tidal and Qobuz , it's native to both machines.  The BluOS has a lot of streaming choices. The Aurender has Tidal, Qobuz, and Apple Connect along with Spotify Connect.  Who in their right mind would choose a streamer that does not include Tidal and Qobuz by default.  I just bought a Cyrus amp and while on their website I saw that they are releasing a new streamer.  The new Cyrus units will be driven by the Bluesound OS.  Smart move. It is a very good, proven platform.  The Denafrips sounds like it is full of compromise right from the start.  The Eversolo is a damn good machine for the money.  I would pick that over the ARCE  |
It has DLNA which would allow one to use the JPLAY app to stream Qobuz at full resolution and with a terrific interface ⌠much better than M-Connect from a user experience and data standpoint.  Thatâs what Iâm doing with my Ifi streamer and how would consider using the Denafrips streamer. That said, if you donât use Room, itâs a bit limited . I would be more interested in the entry level Innuos streamer than this however for all the reasons mentioned. JS |
+1, @oddiofyl Thatâs been there focus from get go, make good sounding products and back it up with lifetime support to end users. I am one of the early adopters of Aurenderâs and yet to find another brand that checks all the boxes when it comes to seamless integration with 3rd party DACâs like Merging and MSB. |
Donât be surprised if ARCE owners get stuck with only âconnectâ type services.  Streaming is ALL about DRM and licensing.  I believe anyone who buys one will be a Beta tester for a long time.  They dragged their feet with the dropout fixâŚ.  What do you think it will be like owning their streamer?  No thanks. If you click on âinfoâ in the Aurender app you will see a tab called licenses.  When you click it youâll see that there are literally hundreds of licenses to make these work properly and be compliant.  I seriously doubt Denafrips will do that properly.  I do not see them supporting this like a BlueOS or Aurender product My Dad just picked up an Eversolo A6 and while not perfect it is quite good and they have released a few firmware updates already. Still , who knows how long a product like that will receive continued support.   My Vault 2i has been great , my Aurender is really a great machine.  Support is almost concierge level.  Itâs that good.  They can remotely diagnose and do firmware and beta releases.  Their support is top notch, reallly important with a device that is essentially a computer.  I just donât see the ARCE as something with that level of support.  And that can be frustrating when something is buggy.  |
@oddiofyl +1 |
https://youtu.be/hmRrWZ1--gc From Denifrips |
@designsfx Nope this is the text of the ad: Currently, the DENAFRIPS engineering team is actively working on expanding the streaming service support for the ARCE streamer. They aim to include services like Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect, and others in the future to enhance the streamer's functionality. However, as of now, these streaming services are not yet supported. Â |
@jond 100% Did they even give a date as to when or does the add say âcoming soonâ |