Parks Puffin
What is a good turntable preamp under $500?
I am dipping my toes in analog and want to upgrade my turntable preamp for a second system. I currently have a cheap Cambridge Audio preamp that I think cost just over $100. I am using a Pioneer Elite receiver. At the time I just wanted to see if I could get my old Gerrard turntable up and running. Sound is pretty mediocre. Would I notice much difference if I went up to to something $300-$500. I have a high end digital system in my main rig. I don’t need to go to that level but would like to improve it some. Any you would recommend?
Phono stages get dramatically better with cost. You will probably find a $500 Phono stage better. I have been unhappy with low cost phono stages. You can get surprisingly good sound out of a few thousands of dollars of analog. I typically recommend the investment in the phonostage roughly equal the TT. I had an old AR turntable which I was finally able to put in next to my contemporary TT (through a $17K Phonostage)… it sounded terrible. There has been huge improvements in TT over the last 30 or 40 years. For the last few years I have been playing the game of having analog and digital neck and neck. Digital was better until my most recent upgrade, where vinyl moved ahead a bit. Both are totally satisfying. You can see my system. Just some random thoughts. |
Darlington Labs MM-6 is all discrete and has zero negative feedback. |
solid state: darlington labs mm-6 ifi zen
solid state just over $500 darlington labs MP-7
tube, including used: pro-ject tube box s2, under-$500 w/o/ tax, at least when i bought it, tho its prolly more now. goddam its real good. heind ear 834p clone, $30o shipped w/o tubes
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Yes, upgrade TT first. Then get a equally expensive phono preamp (or an newer integrated amp with phono stage). Throwing $500 at just a new phono preamp probably will keep you wondering/expecting more. Original OP question: get a used "ifi phono2". I have one and love it, very configurable for different cartridges. |
Those Regas are not great values in my opinion. The Pro-Ject Debut EVO is the pick of the litter for $600.00. Your CA preamp will serve adequately...it's probably a $200.00 item. The PF-20 is a toy, but better than any Garrard idler drive mass market 'table. The Rainier on the EVO will be better than the Grado, too. If you want a new preamp, nothing will beat the Mani 2 for the $$$. You seem to be budget constrained, so hitting the peak value quotient is essential. |
So much bad advice it truly boggles the mind. Unless you upgrade from the Pioneer Elite you will spend money spinning your wheels. What Grado MM, I assume, (you wrote "nm") cartridge and stylus are you using? It has to start there. The Yamaha tt may not be awful but the cartridge determines everything, even if you keep the Pioneer Elite for the time. |
Yes, I meant to type MM. The Grado is a low level cartridge, I think it is called Prestige Black. Again, I know this equipment is considered lo-fi, but my original intention was just to see if I could get my turntable up and running. I have a Classe SSP in my main rig, but it only has one analog input, which I am using for my Lumin streamer. Hence the reason I am using the Pioneer receiver in a second configuration for the turntable. I have no intention of trying to get to the level of my digital system, but was hoping to find out the first step to improve it ( turntable, cartridge, or preamp). |
The Schiit Mani2 phono preamp- Fremer gave it a very positive review: Schiit makes high value components consistently performing above their price point. At $150, this looks like a bargain. Schiit’s website still shows the Mani and not the Mani2, but per Schiit after ordering: ”To answer your questions, yes you will be receiving the Mani2 since Mani V1 is no longer available since it's been discontinued. ”
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