This is a good example of the saying "no good deed goes unpunished". This is not the first time positive finding's are reported here with the installation of special fuses. I myself have no reason to question the member's good findings and experience, , plus I further appreciate redwoodaudio's sharing of this tweek!
The secret to a great amplifier...
Is a $150 Orange fuse from Synergistic Research. Seriously, extreme boost in sonic performance. Blacker background, larger soundstage... if I wanted to make some bucks, I’d put these is cheap OEM compnents and start letting the accolades and purchasers come calling.
Mind you, I have a high value-oriented $20k system, so it was nice before, but damn!
Mind you, I have a high value-oriented $20k system, so it was nice before, but damn!
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perkri:"
After the 4th, no one will be talking about Orange anymore... " Hello perkri, Ha! Very clever, but it now looks like there are still millions of votes left to count, However, you're still my huckleberry. isochronism:" So ... orange fuse bad?? HA " Hello isochronism, I 'm absolutely certain I'm not fond of orange Presidents. But I currently lack the required negative knowledge and experience of orange fuses that I, unfortunately, do have with orange Presidents! However, I do agree with you, I have no current reasons to doubt redwoodaudio's positive experiences with these orange fuse replacements, either. I also recall other threads touting the benefits of various alternative brand fuse replacements on sound quality in the past, however, that were not completely validated by thread posters that had bought and tried them . I remain agnostic on these prospective fuse upgrades only because I've never actually tried any of them and, therefore, have no firsthand experience, knowledge or relevant advice. Of course, I could just buy a couple orange fuses and give them a try. But I also know if I do, and I perceive no significant sq improvement and can't return them for a refund, that I'd feel like I just bought some snake oil. This is the main issue I want to avoid due to my belief in the latin term 'caveat emptor', which translates to 'buyer beware'. I also realize I'd be less annoyed by losing the $300 than being swindled on a potential snake oil scheme, possibly orchestrated by redwoodaudio along with the possible assistance of others. This would be far more irritating to me than losing the $300. I want to be clear, however, that I'm not actually accusing redwoodaudio of anything at this point. I believe he still deserves the benefit of the doubt, pending any future evidence to the contrary, that he is being sincere about his praise of the orange fuses and has no ulterior motives. Overall, I've decided to remain agnostic on the potential sound quality benefits of the orange or any other brand of replacement fuses until I can personally verify the claimed sound quality improvements. While I could easily just buy a couple and give them a try, I'm not going to do it, based on general principles and the knowledge that that's exactly the sentiment or urge that I suspect snake oil purveyors rely on individuals relenting to. You guys all respect firmly adhering to important principles, right? Just like requiring, insisting and ensuring that all legitimate votes are counted in a Presidential election, even if it takes a bit longer, before declaring the results in a democracy, right? Tim |
I believe the folks who don't like fuses should not worry about this post. While you are at it forget about after-stock power cords, interconnects, vibration control devices, speaker cables, etc. Get some lamp wire from Lowes and connect your system and use the stock power cords that came with your components, doesn't matter. |
glupson6,527 posts11-03-2020 8:56pmmillercarbon, How is life in your galaxy? Troubled, it seems. Whatever it is, do not hold your breath. You know it feels bad, don't you? Why do these trolls keep contaminating this site with their bilge ? They have been requested to desist, yet they keep on wanting to show their ignorance |
Tweaks that I've liked: SR Orange fuses (not subtle) Highend Novum PMR resonator (subtle) Tweak Geek Stealth passive conditioner (used, subtle) DNM cables XLR x 2 + speaker cables(subtle) Tweaks that did nothing for me: BDR cones under preamp and amp SR FEQ + HFTs (10) I'm lucky enough to be able to afford to try these things. At this point, I have two more tweaks on the way: PPT omega emats High Fidelity Cables MC-1 pro |
Tim, they come with a full 30 day return guarantee. Hardly any get returned because they work so well. As redwoodaudio notes the improvement is not subtle. Its roughly equivalent to a good $500 power cord, interconnect, etc. Redwoodaudio, You will enjoy the eMats. Very similar improvement to what you hear with the Orange fuses, only even more smooth and natural. Not the kind of thing that hits you over the head, more you notice many things sound much more real. Try them different places. They seem to work best near powerful fields. They can be cut up into strips and wrapped around outlets inside the box, or around speaker magnets, or even speaker cables and power cords. I have them practically lining the insides of my conditioner and step-down transformer boxes, and wrapped around most of my cables. I'm surprised ten HFT did nothing. Mine went up one at a time or in pairs, and it was easy to hear not only the improvement each one made but to fine tune it by moving them slightly one way or another. One time I tried one where I thought it would be good, but it actually made the sound worse. Never had one where it made no difference at all. |
Stick a fuse, any fuse, in a crappy amp then come back and tell us the amp is now great. ..... That’s exactly what the OP is pitching. if I wanted to make some bucks, I’d put these is cheap OEM compnents and start letting the accolades and purchasers come calling. |
The secret to a great amp...is the fuse. When you bought the amp was it mediocre? I can see Bruno Putzeys and Lars Risbo brainstorming when they were designing the purifi amp and they came to a point when they realized their amp.. well just wasn't very good, mediocre at best, Bruno had a light bulb moment and said "I know what would make this amp great! An Orange fuse! ", Lars slapped him on the back and said damn Bruno you saved our azz on this one. |
I don’t know about this orange fuse but it seems like the commie fuse like to suppress the highs and the lows and make everything more average. That easier to control and much better fit this type of power supply that runs on corrupt energy, looking to consolidate resources. These fuses work really well in the sander amp- is a real bum and this amp never work a day in it’s life but just stir up negative energy and try to redistribute it to the speaker. I guess I just don’t understand these fuses. |
Bruno Putzeys and Lars Risbo brainstorming when they were designing the purifi amp and they came to a point when they realized their amp.. well just wasn’t very good, mediocre at best, Bruno had a light bulb moment and said "I know what would make this amp great! An Orange fuse! ", Lars slapped him on the back and said damn Bruno you saved our azz on this one.This is just pure gold, and is the way fusers think. I just hope the gullible aren’t stupid enough to believe it. Cheers George |
millercarbon:"
Tim, they come with a full 30 day return guarantee. Hardly any get returned because they work so well. As redwoodaudio notes the improvement is not subtle. Its roughly equivalent to a good $500 power cord, interconnect, etc." Thanks, millercarbon, a 30 day guarantee makes all the difference to someone like me, who tosses out nickels like manhole covers. I also retract my skeptical comments and I'm climbing out of this QAnon subreddit black hole as I'm typing this. I'm really glad to be getting outta that weird hole, it's like an alternative universe down there. Everybody wears MAGA something and they all use their hands to help them talk out of their posteriors. Tim |
When you know science and reason has lost the war is when you have people claiming that those who want to see evidence to support observation is considered on par with Qanon nuts and subjective claims are considered the gold standard. I think it's the other way around, extraordinary claims of supernatural hearing abiity are like those who claim they've seen aliens from distant galaxies and don't ask for evidence to support their visual accuracy or you're a conspiracy theory crackpot. |
djones51 When you know science and reason has lost the war is when you have people claiming that those who want to see evidence to support observation is considered on par with Qanon nuts ...Why would someone seeking scientific evidence come to a hobbyist's site with their demands? It doesn't make sense, unless the goal is simply to argue and disrupt. No one here owes scientific proof of anything to anyone. If you seek absolute proof, you're simply in the wrong place. |
I consider myself a mostly reasonable monkey, who respects scientific knowledge and the empirical process utilized to validate and accumulate it. I realize I prefer to keep an open mind and understand that I tend to gain knowledge about this hobby and my personal system preferences best through personal experimentation and experience. But I’m also not totally immune from trying, and even adopting, audio lore, marketing, tweaks and perhaps even a bottle or 2 of snake oil. Do a pair of maple isolation amp platforms with brass cone-spiked footers and a pair of Mye stands count? In other words, I generally like to try new, different and various products and methods in my own room and a/v system and then just call things as I see and hear them. In retrospect, I think this approach has worked out well for me over the past 40+ years and it reinforces my belief that this hobby, based on my personal experience, is best described as an audio and video journey. Sometimes you’re convinced you have the answers and reached the blissful end to your a/v journey, only to discover there’s more to learn and discover. I think I’ve reached my blissful destination, but I’m not sure and don’t really care since I’ve enjoyed and continue to enjoy the journey so much, that I hope it never ends. Enjoy, Tim |
Tim, nice reasonable post. If I come home in the evening and sit down to listen to my system the sound can be a little different, even though, I didn't do anything to it. There may be some reason for it in the vast sea of space. But likely I don't worry to much about that, I just use my own judgement if it's good or not. It has got me this far, and I have a great sound. So it seems reasonable to me a little fuse can change things more than seemingly nothing. So I have tried a few and am glad I have. Just my way of going about it, as Cleeds implied above. |
