Should I update my manufactures power cords?

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nothing to lose.Captain answers  the phone. If you can afford the Zafinos you will never back.  

And listen….. but at least get a hospital grade Hubbel for that lovely Pass amp…

I have a Furman power conditioner, nothing fancy.

I called Pass Labs. Do I plug my amp into the wall or the Furman?Answer: if you have dirty power, plug it into the conditioner.

jafant, admin deleted my post. I assume soix read the post and you know the rest of the story. Admin may delete my post but I'm not going to tolerate condescending comments from individuals on this forum. Interesting form of censorship... I'm tired of all the noise.  

 Have a great holiday and happy new year!

rubicon15

I concur.  Season's Greetings!

Happy Listening!

Your level system is interesting. You SHOULD NEVER PLUG AN AMP INTO A POWER CONDITIONER despite whatever marking bs is saying!

if you want better sound just try plugging the power amp directly into the wall first!!!!

power conditioners are just for the front end!!!

pre amp DAC and stuff.  Even if Audio quest says they have some special, super capacitor and blah blah blah. It’s all marketing.

yes, update all your cables because all your power cables that come from the company cost nothing therefore they are worth nothing because they were free with the thing.

kubala sosna for life 

The amplifier power cords are going to have more impact than the cord on the streamer in my experience. Do the power cord upgrade on the streamer last.
I would suggest getting the best possible power cables you can afford for the amps even if it means using stock cords on the streamer and preamp. Second upgrade would be the preamp power cord. The very last thing you’ll want to do, as icing on the cake, is to upgrade your Ethernet cable. If you’re using basic cheap Ethernet cable, an excellent makeshift improvement would be something like a Linkup cable from amazon. 

I appreciate everyones comments and the survey results. How do you distinguish between PC for use with each piece of equipment, for example, MC611 amps or hifi rose 150b?

+1 On For better performance on amps take a look at Zavfino

@farne230

I conducted a survey a few months ago to formulate a group consensus related to the subject of premium power cords.

Here’s a link that provides the specific survey questions, a brief conversation between contributors, as well as a link to the results. This should provide some indication of the group’s adoption of this product category.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/premium-power-cable-survey-the-results-are-in

And you as well @bigkidz 

@audphile1 - Ledgewood NJ next to Rockaway.  We will be glad to get to know you and have some fun.  Always looking to meet new people and learn form each other.  Have a great Holiday to you and you family.

@bigkidz I’ll take you up on it some day may be after the holidays. I’ll stop by if it’s not too far of a drive from northeast jersey. 

Aaudiphine1 - I guess your post is directed at my comment regarding upgrading a component?  If so, I invite you and any one to come by our listening room in New Jersey and spend some listening time.  We can show anyone what the difference are.  Been doing this for over twenty years and BTW we also have our own line of components for you to drool over.

Happy Listening.

Yeah when the honeymoon is over you realize you f-ed up and you actually don’t like the change, will never recoup your investment and no one wants your amps because it’s impossible to tell what they sound like compared to original and the warranty is void. I had done this way back when on an amp I really liked in its stock form and learned my lesson.

Back when I was avid in the Mcintosh forum at Audiokarma there was a fellow who sent out his newish (501’s I think? off the top of my head...) amps off to someone who did this procedure. I actually copied and pasted 2 of his comments over a 6 month period back to him in one of the threads. The first post was a few weeks after he received his amps back from getting "upgraded": "I would definitely do this again" and the next was what he stated about 6 months later when someone asked him about the "upgrade":  "I don’t think I would do this again" .

Morning dose of entertainment - nothing beats audiogon. 
We have a multi thousand dollar isolation device that will make more difference than power delivery and we have a McIntosh amps aren’t good enough and I can make them better with a cap upgrade recommendation. 
 

The peanut gallery has spoken. 

Send the unit to me and I will upgrade the power supply caps, resistors, etc. which will bow any power cord you an buy away.

@bigkidz What would something like that cost?  I assume doing this would void the warranty?

No don't do that.  Send the unit to me and I will upgrade the power supply caps, resistors, etc. which will bow any power cord you an buy away.  Not even close.  Plus those improvement will work always where if you make changes to your system, that power cord may not have the same impact.  Upgrading key parts is always a better option.

iF i got any of the Herbs mixed up with Downs, i pedantically apologist.

Don’t know your system, but IF your preamp isn’t isolated with HRS grade isolation and you are running at least a Pegasus or better IC from your sources > preamp > amps, then i would ABSOLUTELY do that first. Try the amps to at least hospital grade Hubbel outlets direct to panel vs the AQ conditioning.

Then you can muck about w power cables…..

Yes you should upgrade all equipment power cords from your conditioner to your equipment. Stating the obvious, choose power cords specifically designed for digital equipment or amplification respectively.  Brand choice is personal and there are many excellent choices in different price brackets, including the well respected Audioquest line matching the Thunder you have, Shunyata, Nordost, etc.  Each has their unique SQ profile.  Research professional reviews to guide you, then audition. The Cable Company has a loaner/audition program. Boutique brands offer equivalent or better performance and value.  I personally prefer WyWires Platinum Power Cords and they are currently 40% off and a bargain at that price.  I use a full loom of WW platinum.  Very coherent, detailed, clear and dynamic.  Alex (the designer and proprietor) is very helpful.  I recommend you audition a few brands.  Whatever your choice, moving from the OEM manufacturer’s cords to a better design will lower background noise , thereby improving detail retrieval, image density, soundstage, micro/macro dynamics, and timbre.  

@farne230 

Definitely you should upgrade PC for your preamp, amplifiers, and the source.  I don't use AudioQuest brand so I can't recommend.  Good luck in your search of upgraded power cords.

Oops. For a second I thought I had accidentally joined the Grammar Forum. I stay away from there, between my own incompetence and autocorrect I would be in a world of hurt.

Mfg power cords are Garbage ,no matter how good your line conditioner is 

Thunder power cords starting with your amp and Dac would be a substantial upgrade .I use at m8nimum like myPowered subs ,Pangea sig mk2 power cords awg 14perfect for a LPS or router, that’s another story any junk wall warts get rid of them a good LPS power supply is a must if you want clean digital .

not 1 piece of equipment should even use the junk stock power cords !!

Being a pedant can’t be healthy.

“Manufactures” is a verb — you’re looking for the noun, which is “manufacturer’s” power cords. AQ “manufactures” power cords and are a power cord “manufacturer.” One is an action and the other is a thing. See the difference?  Argh!

I'm not a huge fan of expensive PCs but I do use shielded PCs after my power conditioner to minimize the opportunity to pick up digital and other noise.

Those amps will benefit from upgraded power cords

Also try the amps plugged directly into wall and not into power conditioner. I had AQ Thunder and upgraded to the Hurricane. The improvement was not subtle. However, in the end, I sold the Hurricane cords. They made my system sound a bit too syrupy and dark. Home audition is a must.

@farne230 

I have a pair of 611s and a C2700. I found the most significant gains in my system were from the PC and interconnects connected to my DAC. I am powering my DAC with AQ Dragon and the monoblocks with AQ Hurricane. The C2700 is being fed by an Audience Front Row PC. The Thunder is a good cord, and the Hurricane is probably the sweet spot in their lineup. 

@farne230  - Take a look at Audio Envy - they are a great place to start.

For better performance on amps take a look at Zavfino - a little more pricey but worth it for amps like yours

If you want to get some knowledge about cable science, take a read of this thread

• What Makes A Good Cable

Regards - Steve