NY audio show 2022
This question addressed to audio folks-living close to NYC --- Are you going to audio show NYC September 9-10 , or you think is too small and decided to pass?
This was the first nyc audio show I have skipped in a long time. The exhibitor list seemed small, unfortunately. I hope we get some larger shows here in the future. I ended up taking my GF to see Kinky Boots that night instead. I’ll have to look for the Newsmax review of the show to read about how Broadway is destroying the family unit and pushing kids to be trans.
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@jeff4598 Heh heh. Good one. |
@robert53 Doesn’t matter where you live. You still can’t comprehend the difference between what’s reported on the news and the crime RATE. Get a clue man. It’s simple math and you clearly don’t get it at all. |
@bache I’ll completely defer to you and your considerable expertise, but it really does fly in the face of logic that putting fabric in front of drivers doesn’t affect the sound, especially in the higher frequencies. I know some manufacturers design their speakers to be used with grills, but they’re in the minority IME. That said, I noticed no imbalance in the sound of your room, which sounded great BTW especially given the room you had to work with. Definitely one of the better rooms I heard. |
@robert53 That you can’t seem to wrap your head around the difference between the crimes reported on TV or the internet versus the actual crime RATE is as hysterical as it is sad. You clearly see what you believe and lack the ability to think for yourself. Live happily in your utter ignorance. Me? I’ll keep going to NYC and enjoying all it has to offer while you shelter in place and live in your own self-constructed and utterly irrational fear. Enjoy yourself in your bunker of ignorance. |
@soix Thanks . We set two grills on both speakers, i like more how is looks with grills, but one listener ask to show the drivers , and we leave one speakers open. i disagree with some statement that grills affect to sound. |
@bache Yes, your room sounded really good despite it being too small. Not sure why you had one speaker with the grill on though — seemed very strange to me. Spatial Audio and LTA room was another standout to me, along with GT Audio. Although the show was relatively small and limited, what was there was very good and in a way was better than the bigger NYC shows because access to rooms, manufacturers, etc. was much better and more intimate. Just glad to have an audio show back in NYC!!! |
@celtic66 what about carry chicken ? |
Confirmation BiasA confirmation bias is cognitive bias that favors information that confirms your previously existing beliefs or biases.1 No one is completely immune to it. My favorite is the Autobahn myth. I've lived and worked years in Europe. The Autobahn is not completely unregulated. But when I dispute that widely held belief, all sorts of 'experts' arrive on scene to pontificate about it, they having never lived and worked in Europe. Hmm..... Refer to above statement.
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@steveashe Thanks Steve, we have little bit small room in New York Audio show , i bring bigger size LS sounding much more better in large room , but you have chance visited our Brooklyn spot with better acoustic performance and spend more time . |
It was great to get out to the show. Was a beautiful day in NYC. The show was a 2 minute walk from Penn Station in what I thought was a really nice venue. I saw some old friends, heard some great systems. For me, the Audio Note room was the best. As someone else said, real music. Amazing. And I got to spend some time speaking with Peter Qvortrup, which was fun in and of itself. The Bache speakers sounded great. Wish I had a bit more time to spend in this room. I was disappointed by the Harbeth/Luxman room. Surprisingly flat. I have the same speakers at home (30.2xd’s) and at least in my setup they sound much more dynamic. Maybe this was a function of the room setup at the show. NYC is intimidating to those not familiar and to those that don’t bother to experience it for themselves. And to those who let paranoia rule their lives. |
Just prior to Covid I flew from Arizona to attend the NY Audio show thinking it had to be a great show. Unfortunately, I basically spent about 90 minutes viewing the show. It was super disappointing. However, I did enjoy the sites and had a great time while in the city. I visited the 9/11 museum, ate at Katz's deli and some great restaurants at night. |
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@robert53 You need to get head out of butt. Highlighting one crime at a time doesn’t mean the CRIME RATE PER PERSON is up significantly or all over the place in NYC. Do you just not get the concept of percentages? I think not. Believe what you see to your own detriment. Your ignorance is palpable. |
@soix Heard there and understood. |
@jond I can present statistics til I’m blue in the face, but those who believe what they see on the news as representative of what actually is happening perpetuate their misinformed opinions — it’s called the availability hypothesis. Just because the news loves reporting on blood and crimes doesn’t mean the crime RATE is up much, which is why you and I don’t see or experience crimes when we’re in NYC — the crime RATE factually is still relatively low and is all that matters in the end. It’s like when many people think there are more murders than suicides every year because murders get much more airplay on the news, but the fact is that suicides typically outnumber homicides more than 2 to 1. So if you can’t think for yourself and just take what the news gives you at face value you can be easily misled and then spread your crap info online that further exacerbates something that’s really just false. Of course that so many paranoid folks maybe stayed hunkered down at home out of irrational fear meant I got to enjoy relatively uncrowded demo rooms and completely unfettered access to any manufacturer or distributor I cared to speak and I learned a ton of great info and found a lot of great new music as a result. Hell, I even got to park on the street for free, and yes my car was perfectly fine later that night when I went home. So I guess paranoia does have its benefits to those of us who can actually think rationally for ourselves rather than being told what to believe. To each his own I guess. |
I will agree with someone that said he was disappointed in getting a two day pass. It was a small show, but getting to see/hear different equipment was great. I could have walked in at the wrong moment, and I understand they need to control the listening environment. Oh well… It seemed most rooms had a CD player- I didn’t bring any this time, since the last few shows I’ve been to were leaning toward streaming. My fault. Overall, I’m glad I went, I had a great time, and I hope these shows continue.
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Here is just one example that occurred in the Bronx.
VIDEO: Crook robs 69-year-old man using walker at knifepoint in the Bronx (msn.com) |
reg19 I listen to 1010 WINS am radio, and watch local news stations like NY1 News. That's where I hear stories and watch stories, along with video footage, about all the crime in New York City and its boroughs. These media outlets have nothing to do with Newsmax. Almost every day, there are multiple shootings, stabbings, rapes, and attempted rapes, along with robberies and carjacking incidents. They even show photos captured on video of the suspects. Many of the suspects are later captured or turn themselves in because their pictures were shown on the news. |
Back to the topic at hand -- the actual show... Shoutout to @verdantaudio for putting together a system that (i) is NYC apartment friendly and (ii) sounded good! The other apt-friendly setup I heard -- Harbeth and Luxman -- just did not work for me. Wilson Benesch stand-mounts with tubed mono blocks. It did not unnaturally spotlight detail and toed the line between being engaging and graceful/easeful. Well done! Wish I could have stayed longer.
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@theoriginalthor1 actually, none of us know who didn't show because nobody told us and at least I wasn't there. Thanks for your quick hit impressions...about the only relevant post in the last page poli-drama. Volti rooms sound good every time I hear them too. Cheers, Spencer |
@blisshifi Crimes may be up this year, but let’s keep it in perspective — it’s still nowhere near where it was 22 years ago and much less than in the 70s and 80s where hookers and crime ruled the 42nd street area. Now it’s like a outdoor shopping mall with M&M stores and the like. Just because crime is up doesn’t mean everyone is a likely a victim of crime or that you should avoid going to NYC because that’s just factually untrue and utter fear mongering. Run @cerrot crime numbers as a percentage of the sheer number of residents and visitors to NYC, and you’ll see the odds of you being a victim of a crime in NYC is exceedingly small. Please don’t add further to the wildly overblown paranoia. |
@soix I lived in NYC as a child, and then again from 2007-2018. You’re absolutely right, NYC was way rougher earlier on before Bloomberg’s days. But I’ve heard from many of my friends who are in the city now that this year is an obvious decline of the city vs recent years, and crimes are skyrocketing again. |
@cerrot That some major crimes are up over the past year doesn’t change the fact that they’re still significantly below where they were 22 years ago. The fact is that of the 8+ million people who live in NYC plus who knows how many more millions visit every year, the percentage of crime victims is very low. So while you peddle the falsehood that everyone in NYC is under attack by motor scooters or whatever, the fact and ultimate bottom line is that the likelihood of being a victim of a crime in NYC is small. So you stay in your cocoon of NewsMax-induced paranoia and have your brand of “fun” while I go enjoy audio shows and everything else NYC has to offer and never been a victim of a crime, ever. Fear mongering is not cool dude, so if u wanna play that game just play with yourself and your overblown assertions and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy our lives. Again, I feel sorry for you in your sad and misguided world. |
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@cerrot I lived in NYC in the late 80s - early 90s and it’s much cleaner and safer now than it was then. I don’t mean to pollute your brain with facts and you’re probably more in the “I see what I believe” camp anyway, but from 2000 to 2021 major crimes in NYC have decreased 44%. Stick that in your NewsMax and smoke it. |
@cerrot you are fed massive lies by NewsMax but I could have told you that after you said you watch NewsMax. 0 facts support what you are believing. |
@cerrot: Every day, thousands of bankers in fancy suits and fat wallets commute from my part of the world to NYC. In the evening, they go out 2-3 nights a week entertaining clients / meeting others at restaurants / bars till late. They all return home without incident - as do my wife and I. Have been doing so for months. As have commuters from Westchester County, and southern CT. We have family (cousins, nephews) who reside in Manhattan and enjoy it. But I have no interest in weening you away from News Max or whatever you’re watching… |
@cerrot You live in a sad, paranoid world and I truly feel sorry for you. I went to the show yesterday, met some great people and heard some great music. Also ate a delicious meal outside with some friends and enjoyed taking in the sights and sounds of the city. What did you do — sit around watching News Max’s overly-biased reporting to further feed your paranoia? |
I was born in East NY, Brooklyn and lived in the South Bronx. Tough areas don’t scare me. You’re lucky. You’re lucky you weren’t pulled from your car. The media is not showing it (except News Max - check it out). Pairs on scooters will rip your rolex (if you got one) right off your wrist. They have people just walking into restaurants and robbing everyone. This is happening in good areas - Bryant park, midtown, times square. I had to go into the city a few weeks ago (picked up a solution 725 - big day for me) but I would only go in on a Sunday before 10 am. Im just letting people know, as this is in the city, head on swivel! Be diligent. This is worse than it was in the 70s. It used to be that you just worried walking from the parking lot to where you're going. Now you have to worry about getting rammed while in your car and then robbed. Just be careful. |
@cerrot You’re talking cr$p by unnecessarily exaggerating how ‘difficult’ it is. I drove in from Northern NJ. Went to the Spot Hero website. Booked parking spot 1 block away from the audio show ($31 for 5 hours!). Listened to my favorite music and podcasts along the way. Because so many are working from home, reached the spot in 45 minutes of easy driving. The show was a 2 min walk from my parking spot. |
